There Is One They Fear: Dragonborn Shouts Them Down!

[MeekMeek93]

Upon yesterday’s events, does anyone else feel like Dovahkiin’s chances just rose?

 

[Rayleigh]

It's possible, but I don't think they've moved up any from (in my own eyes) the Top Ten for Third Party franchises.

 

[MeekMeek93]

Skyrim is the biggest game of last gen, and it’s still relevant today. Not to mention that Bethesda published three games on switch, and that number is getting higher. Even if it’s from a western studio, it definitely made its mark on the world

 

[Bobthealligator]

Dovahkiin actually seems pretty low on the list, unfortunately.

The most requested/likely Western 3rd parties I see around are:

• Rayman (Ubisoft), based on the random trophy he got in the last game
• Banjo-Kazooie (Formerly Rare, now Microsoft), since they were big names in the N64 era around the time of DK64, which went away once Rare got bought out
• Steve (Minecraft, now Microsoft) for being a worldwide phenomenon. For me, though, I'd see a stage much more likely than the PC since the game is all about what you can make
• Shovel Knight and Shantae (Indie)

I think Dovahkiin also gets hurt a bit since requests for him didn't really crop up until after the Skyrim port was announced, which was WAY after the ballot. Honestly the two Bethesda guys and Solaire are all suffereing from this while the others aren't

Still, Smash has never had a western 3rd party character. Sakurai likes to have creative control but be accurate to the character, so there may be a lot of language barriers in addition to legal barriers. Add to that that a lot of these characters are "Hello, [INSERT NAME HERE]" player characters, and things are not good for most of them outside of BK and Rayman.

I think Dovahkiin's best chances would be if Skyrim really impressed Sakurai and the Japanese. Breath of the Wild definitely did feel like a Bethesda-esque RPG, and they definitely did talk to each other to put some Zelda stuff in the Skyrim port. The Shouts would make for a really fun playstyle, but with few requests...it's not looking good. I can still dream though.


Alduin would make a great boss. I dunno if we'll be getting SSE back, but I think a new Smash Run is logical, and I'd love to see the Draugr in there. They look so good in Skyrim, and they're pretty iconic enemies in their own right.

Shovel Knight is an Assist Trophy and Shantae a spirit (Piranha Plant doesn't have one) Both Steve and Banjo are owned by a direct competitor and yes Phil Spencer says he'd be fine with it but he's not the only person making decisions.

 

[HenryXLII]

This would bring in a TON of PC gamers which is the one audience Smash does not appeal to at the moment, and I am fairly certain Nintendo would capitalize on this character. EVERYONE knows who this guy is, and the moveset would be hella awesome! While Skyrim is not my cup of tea, I fully support this and even expect the Dragon Born to be DLC.

 

[rat.jpg]

Everyone wonders why Dragonborn's patch file size is 14.3 gb
Someone uses the Final Smash for the first time
The screen fades to black
Suddenly all the fighters are on a wagon and some text appears on the screen
"Bethesda presents..."
"The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim"

 

[Proceleon]

A thread for Dragonborn as DLC? Heck yes!
I've always imagined their intro sequence being Link surrounded by Rathalos, Charizard and Ridley when all three are blasted away by Unrelenting Force. Link looks around to see Dragonborn, steel sword in hand, when a Skyrim dragon (probably Alduin) lands behind him and both Dragonborn and Link face Alduin together.
In all seriousness though, I do think Dragonborn would be a great choice.

 

[Circus Baby]

I haven't been here in a little while. So lets try to rile up a discussion: if The Elder Scrolls series had Spirits, what would they be, what would they do, and are they enhancable?

I'll start:

Name: Delphine (Inn Keeper)
Type: Primary (Attack)
Rank: ★★
Slots: 2
Effect: Enhancable At Level 99
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Enhance Name: Delphine (Blades Armor)
Type: Primary (Attack)
Rank: ★★★
Slots: 2
Effect: Weapon Resist Up
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Name: Dremora
Type: Support
Rank: ★★
Cost: 1
Effect: Fire Damage Up

 

[Daedra]

Akatosh better make this happen or imma pull up on a mf

 

[Soness621]

Trailer:

Ice Climbers are trying to get to the top of a snowy mountain. They stumble upon a stairway made of stone that comes from way down the mountain. They follow it for a few meters till they reach its end. Suddenly a big white figure roars from the top of a rock and assaults them. As it is about to attack, the frost troll is stomped on by an even bigger figure. Its a dragon. It catches one of the climbers with its teeth. “Deep drums start sounding “A known tune with manly voices singing monosyllabes in dragon tongue starts ” His sister tries to free him, but the dragon sends her flying to a nearby rock with just one movement of its wings. The climber tries to free himself, but it is useless. The camera now shows the feet of a man stepping into the fight. “ooooooaaaaaaaaOOOOOAAAAAH” The dragon drops the climber and turns to the newcomer. FUS RO DAH! “Dohvakin Dohvakin naal ok zin los vahriin ...” THE DRAGONBORN SHOUTS THEM DOWN!

 

[Daedra]

Trailer:

Ice Climbers are trying to get to the top of a snowy mountain. They stumble upon a stairway made of stone that comes from way down the mountain. They follow it for a few meters till they reach its end. Suddenly a big white figure roars from the top of a rock and assaults them. As it is about to attack, the frost troll is stomped on by an even bigger figure. Its a dragon. It catches one of the climbers with its teeth. “Deep drums start sounding “A known tune with manly voices singing monosyllabes in dragon tongue starts ” His sister tries to free him, but the dragon sends her flying to a nearby rock with just one movement of its wings. The climber tries to free himself, but it is useless. The camera now shows the feet of a man stepping into the fight. “ooooooaaaaaaaaOOOOOAAAAAH” The dragon drops the climber and turns to the newcomer. FUS RO DAH! “Dohvakin Dohvakin naal ok zin los vahriin ...” THE DRAGONBORN SHOUTS THEM DOWN!

u snapped

 

[AustarusIV]

YouTube’s Delzethin included the Dragonborn as one of the potential DLC candidates in his new video!

Thoughts?

 

[UserKev]

Really praying for my boy, Dovahkiin.

We have more than enough of up coming Fighters Pass updates, Dragonborn is the only third party I'm interested in other then a MK rep.

 

[chaos_Leader]

YouTube’s Delzethin included the Dragonborn as one of the potential DLC candidates in his new video!

Thoughts?

A somewhat recent interview with Pete Hines, Bethesda’s vice president of PR and marketing:
https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/13/pete-hines-bethesda-interview-we-do-believe-in-single-player-7939215/

Principally, at the end of the interview:

GameCentral: This will just take a second, I can guarantee he’s going to give a very short answer to this.
Pete Hines : [laughs]
GC: Have you spoken to them [Nintendo] about Smash Bros.?
PH: Oh yeah.
GC: I see. Well, let’s leave it at that. Thanks very much for your time.
PH: No problem, nice to see you again.

Interview ends.

This all but confirms at least some kind of Bethesda representation for Smash Bros.

Many want to put Doomguy as the go-to Bethesda rep, and that's understandable. Doom has a long and storied history in gaming, and has recently found a home on the Switch. Doom (along with Wolfenstein and Fallout for that matter) is an IP that Bethesda/Zenimax have acquired from their original creators. Though Bethesda is now the custodian of these iconic franchises, Bethesda did not bring them into the world. Elder Scrolls however is an IP of Bethesda's own handiwork, which brought the company into the gaming limelight, and into the wider mainstream entirely. It was, in fact, the success of the Elder Scrolls series that allowed Bethesda to acquire and breathe new life to the other beloved IPs mentioned above.

Point being: if Bethesda is intending to put their best foot forward for Smash Bros, it feels like it would be most appropriate to do so with the fighter that is most iconic to the company. Square did so with Cloud, Sega with Sonic, Capcom with Megaman, then Ryu/Ken, (Konami sort-of with Snake, but that's a unique storied scenario in itself). For Bethesda, that would be the Elder Scrolls, and ES V Skyrim is their loudest proudest most iconic entry, still relevant today, and one of the first games showcased on the Switch during it's official reveal.

Additionally, one of the factors Smash Developers (and Sakurai himself) look for in potential fighters is how well, and how true to the character the fighter can be done in a Smash context, not to mention if the fighter brings something unique and interesting to the table. The Dragon Shouts featured in Skyrim are practically tailor-made to be used as Special moves in a Smash Bros moveset, easily incorporating the three levels of power depending on how long the player holds down the input (could easily go into in-depth details, but not necessary to make the point).

 

[soyperson]

As much as I want our dearest Dovahkiin in Smash, I don't see the chances of it happening being exceedingly high. The character is very open to interpretation, with no set appearance or characteristics. So unless they make a different appearance (with different race and weapons and armor) for every alt, I don't know how they'll make it work. Some weapon-based attacks could fit in, with different shouts and maneuvers as specials. Maybe a dragon swoops down for the Final Smash.

 

[UserKev]

As much as I want our dearest Dovahkiin in Smash, I don't see the chances of it happening being exceedingly high. The character is very open to interpretation, with no set appearance or characteristics. So unless they make a different appearance (with different race and weapons and armor) for every alt, I don't know how they'll make it work. Some weapon-based attacks could fit in, with different shouts and maneuvers as specials. Maybe a dragon swoops down for the Final Smash.

I had no idea of this argument until yesterday. Haha Dragonborn's real threat is the competition with Doomguy tho. I don't believe Dovahkiin being customizable ultimately decapitates his chances. Dragonborn is pretty much the icon of default, we're just allowed to change his look from the original for no specific reasons. He can potentially be that one exception.

 

[chaos_Leader]

As much as I want our dearest Dovahkiin in Smash, I don't see the chances of it happening being exceedingly high. The character is very open to interpretation, with no set appearance or characteristics. So unless they make a different appearance (with different race and weapons and armor) for every alt, I don't know how they'll make it work. Some weapon-based attacks could fit in, with different shouts and maneuvers as specials. Maybe a dragon swoops down for the Final Smash.

I've mentioned previously that a way to address that is to do something similar as Bowser Jr./Koopalings, using significant outfits of major elements and varying races to cover the customizable appearance bases. Also, an "open to interpretation" character hasn't hampered other characters in Smash. Notably, the Inkling comes to mind, who is normally restricted to a single main weapon per match, yet has a whole arsenal at their disposal that spans their moveset. As an example, there's no reason a Smash Bros. Dragonborn can't use the Fire Storm spell/scroll as a Down Smash, and a warhammer/battleaze swing as a Forward Smash, while keeping simple sword swings for jabs/tilts.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Wow, I’ve been out for a while...I really got back into BotW and now between trying to rewatch GoT and Avengers in time for the new ones, I don’t have much time. And MK11 too. Next weekend is gonna be insanity.

I’ve gotta say, it’s interesting seeing what they did with Joker. I know literally nothing about the Persona series at all, but they really lovingly crafted his whole kit. I’d be in heaven to see something done even half as well for the Elder Scrolls series.

True, Skyrim’s coming up on its 8th birthday in November, and TES doesn’t really have anything on the horizon besides ESO updates and a mobile game which is getting slammed for microtransactions (Bethesda, stop being EA! I don’t want you to fail!). But still, Skyrim’s in people’s minds, especially since it overlaps well with Game of Thrones and that hype is through the roof right now.

I’d love to see a Dovahkiin with a great set of attacks, costumes representing a few race/gender options, an awesome stage possibly with some Morrowind/Oblivion tracks, and an awesome chrageable shout special set. It'd fit well with the idea of the DLC characters being more involved (‘gimmicky,’ if you will) than the standards, and also repping their whole series through music as Joker does. Yeah, people are more flocking to Doomguy since Eternal’s more of the big name now and there’s a lot of history there, but Elder Scrolls was pretty well the first modern genre-defining WRPG, and Skyrim was really played up for Switch release (I got the Skyrim case for my Switch and it looks great!)

I’ll wait and see. I never bought the fighter pass since I know there aren’t many potential fighters I know or care much about, and I’ve already got so many characters I don’t play since I like others too much; I don’t need to pay money to not play more characters. Especially now without trophy descriptions, so you can't really get the lore of the characters in game. Still, I’m definitely ready with my wallet if I do see something I like. But if they make my dreams come true here...

Man, now I need to add Morrowind to my list of games to replay, and I still need to redo Skyrim as well. I was a bit disappointed that they didn’t remaster Morrowind when they did the Morrowind chapter for ESO, but at least we got it free last month.

But if that next character datamine leak/rumor from a few months ago is true, that’d make a great trailer for E3. Can you imagine them showing off the big dragon JRPG meeting the big dragon WRPG?

 

[BreadnJamTomorrow]

Hey guys, this is ProspectorWeejus from before (lost the password from my old account and didn't care enough to get it back since it was kind of a throwaway in the first place lol). Just wanted to let you know that I had my moveset from the Google Doc I previously posted here commissioned and I thought I'd let you see the final results! All credit for this beautiful creation goes to @TKOWL_Art on Twitter!

Spoiler: Alts

Spoiler: Jabs & Tilts

Spoiler: Smash Attacks

Spoiler: Aerials

Spoiler: Grabs & Throws

Spoiler: Specials

Spoiler: Aesthetics

Spoiler: Final Smash

 

[UserKev]

Hey guys, this is ProspectorWeejus from before (lost the password from my old account and didn't care enough to get it back since it was kind of a throwaway in the first place lol). Just wanted to let you know that I had my moveset from the Google Doc I previously posted here commissioned and I thought I'd let you see the final results! All credit for this beautiful creation goes to @TKOWL_Art on Twitter!

Spoiler: Alts

Spoiler: Jabs & Tilts

Spoiler: Smash Attacks

Spoiler: Aerials

Spoiler: Grabs & Throws

Spoiler: Specials

Spoiler: Aesthetics

Spoiler: Final Smash

That's some beautiful work. His specials really spark accuracy and that up throw. Haha