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I know I would....You'd rather have a Yellow Kirby over Ice Climbers?
Chaingrabbing is gone. It should stay that way. >>
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I know I would....You'd rather have a Yellow Kirby over Ice Climbers?
... But what if they're in their 2d form? like... you know, Mr Game & Watch... they could easily run at 30 fps. Also, as far as I know, the playable character is actually the Conductor, while the kids are his "Pikmin".For one I like the ladies, and 2 I think, given the ice climbers situation, makes more sense for her on a programming side.
You make it sound like if Ice Climbers were in every character would then be able to chaingrab, don't be stupid.I know I would.
Chaingrabbing is gone. It should stay that way. >>
A playable character running at 30 fps would not be such a good idea when others runs at 60fps. That's going to cause a lot of issues.... But what if they're in their 2d form? like... you know, Mr Game & Watch... they could easily run at 30 fps. Also, as far as I know, the playable character is actually the Conductor, while the kids are his "Pikmin".
But isn't game and watch actually a 3d model?... But what if they're in their 2d form? like... you know, Mr Game & Watch... they could easily run at 30 fps. Also, as far as I know, the playable character is actually the Conductor, while the kids are his "Pikmin".
That wasn't even implied.You make it sound like if Ice Climbers were in every character would then be able to chaingrab, don't be stupid.
You're right, he is! It's the best way to make his model all smooth. Going sprite based would leave him to having ugly rendering issues due to the camera's position. (By ugly rendering issues: Think of how the Pokemon DS games' overworld had the sprites. They all stretched and resize depending their position. Imagine that on a playable fighter...)But isn't game and watch actually a 3d model?
I agree. Best wait for them in Smash Bros 5 when the next handheld can handle them perfectly fine.Either way, they're in both or in neither version. It's what it is and people really need to get over this by now. I dislike their cut too, but it's time to move on. I lost my Brawl main, but it happens. Unlike that, this cut was necessary because they couldn't work.
Technically, Keeby's been around since Smash 64....You'd rather have a Yellow Kirby over Ice Climbers?
Midna is already an AT, Mrs. Game & Watch doesn't exist, Mega Man wouldn't have a second rep (he's third party) and there's way too many characters to expect for the Wii U version. Lower your expectations. lolThat sounds like a good idea tbh, i hope it happens, but knowing Sakurai, it would probably go like this.
"Hello, i am Masahiro Sakurai, and today, i will be announcing some characters unseen before, Mewtwo, Impa, Ridley, Wonder Red, Marshal/Rhythm Girl, Mrs.Game&Watch, Midna, Wolf, Lucas, Protoman, and Keeby!...
and do you know how you can see all of these guys?! They are all unlocked at the beginning of the game
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As Trophies...
i know you don't like it, but YOU MUST RECOVER!!!"
Hopefully this doesn't happen though and Sakurai makes the right decision by adding in those characters
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As Playable Fighters...
He didn't say it was 3DS exclusive, he said it was a 3DS stage which it is, either way tower of smash has been dead for a whilehttp://nintendoeverything.com/sakur...ersion-changes-in-final-smashes-stage-tidbit/
Tower of smash
I believe the big man sakurai said magicant is a 3ds exclusive stage
but remember the Spainkiller from Neogaf is still alive right now
yes, i hate Ice Climbers and i love Keeby....You'd rather have a Yellow Kirby over Ice Climbers?
I'm pretty sure "if" the Chorus Kids were in they'd work like Duck Hunt. Animated and designed to look like more than one character, but ultimately work as just one in the grand scheme of things. Whereas Nana and Popo were two separate characters with one being controlled by the AI.As having many second thoughts, although there are many people supporting for the Chorus kids to join Smash 4, I actually doubt they will. I mean think of it, if Chorus Kids join, that means you'll be controlling 3 characters at once, right? But Ice Climbers, who can control 2 characters at once, were rejected because of the lack of 3DS's machine power, which definitely disposed they're completed model away from Wii U version too, even there were possibilities. So, they disposed the IC because of that, why they accepted CK to join instead? I somehow feel discrimination towards the poor duo, probably thinking because "not really popular among fans and/or Sakurai". Not to mention Rosalina & Luma stole their position/killed them all for having a same system.
But I don't know whether the Chorus Kids were the right choice. I mean...why them? Of course there are more other characters in Rhythm Heaven series, although we don't know who's the main protagonist/mascot of the series is. I was thinking of Marshal because he looks like a major character of the games, but actually nobody knows.I'm pretty sure "if" the Chorus Kids were in they'd work like Duck Hunt. Animated and designed to look like more than one character, but ultimately work as just one in the grand scheme of things. Whereas Nana and Popo were two separate characters with one being controlled by the AI.
They were likely chosen based on uniqueness, like a lot of the smash 4 cast is.But I don't know whether the Chorus Kids were the right choice. I mean...why them? Of course there are more other characters in Rhythm Heaven series, although we don't know who's the main protagonist/mascot of the series is. I was thinking of Marshal because he looks like a major character of the games, but actually nobody knows.
Although I see many people are extremely against the Ice Climbers and are glad that they're disposed, although I am depressed since I liked them so much as my major character, I do wish they'll come back as a DLC returning veteran. But if controlling 2 characters at once became a problem, then it's better to choose Popo as default and Nana as alt costume, like the Wii Fit Trainer and Robin, or Olimar and Bowser Jr. in other words. Plus rebuilding they're fighting styles and moves to make them more unique if possible. I mean this is Sakurai, he should think more better than us can't he? People say they hated them for chain grabs, but I don't even know what they're talking about since I haven't seen it before. But if there was such thing as is, I'd say it's just a glitch.
...You'd rather have a Yellow Kirby over Ice Climbers?
You must be joking.... (look at the yellow one)yes, i hate Ice Climbers and i love Keeby.
(and yes, i am a competitive smasher, just not a collective conformist smasher who only likes stuff because others do without even knowing a thing about that character's actual game series/history)
Ok if that diden't kill itHe didn't say it was 3DS exclusive, he said it was a 3DS stage which it is, either way tower of smash has been dead for a while
Yellow Kirby AKA Player 2EDIT: ...Keeby?
The Amazon thing wasn't confirmed yet (although it WOULD be amazing)Ok if that diden't kill it
What did that amazon thing?
Oh okThe Amazon thing wasn't confirmed yet (although it WOULD be amazing)
- Not enough space on the 3DS CSS for the five bonus charactersOh ok
Does anyone know what killed the tower of smash rumor?
By the way atleast the Spainkiller rumor is kill proof till one of the 4 gets deconfirmed as playable in the wii u version.
I don't know...maybe the GCO stage?Does anyone know what killed the tower of smash rumor?
By the way atleast the Spainkiller rumor is kill proof till one of the 4 gets deconfirmed as playable in the wii u version.
"2D" characters to my knowledge don't take any less power than 3D ones. The key is the textures, then the movements realtime. From my knowledge even Mr Game & Watch is a 3D character that is made 2D in engine (that includes Melee).... But what if they're in their 2d form? like... you know, Mr Game & Watch... they could easily run at 30 fps. Also, as far as I know, the playable character is actually the Conductor, while the kids are his "Pikmin".
It would be weird, Game & Watch is an exception since it references the G&W games."2D" characters to my knowledge don't take any less power than 3D ones. The key is the textures, then the movements realtime. From my knowledge even Mr Game & Watch is a 3D character that is made 2D in engine (that includes Melee).
If you've seen the Pikmin in the game, you'd notice how much lower quality they are. The Chorus Kids would likely either all need to be low quality, or two would look very out of place. Running one character at 60 and two at 30 would also look bizarre.
EDIT: That isn't KeebyYou must be joking.... (look at the yellow one)
Well, I don't think another clone would be good for that game, Doc, Lucina and Pitoo are more than enoughThat officially is confirmed not to be Keeby, also, Keeby's feet are a reddish-orange.
But on a lighter note, i also think that Kaby, Korby, and Kaiby should be characters, or at least give them the alternate name treatment.
Oh, and Keeby and Yellow Kirby are two entirely different characters. the second Kirby on your list is Yellow Kirby
http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Keeby
http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Yellow_Kirby
Kirbynuity
Not to mention everybody HATES clone characters. They're just nothing but burying empty slots.Well, I don't think another clone would be good for that game, Doc, Lucina and Pitoo are more than enough
Except Doc, it's worth it to see a F.L.U.D.D.-less Mario. (I love Mario Tornado)Not to mention everybody HATES clone characters. They're just nothing but burying empty slots.
Joking aside, it's a matter of which clone people want instead. XD It's too bad it wasn't like Melee, where clones were still unique characters using the very basic model with recoloring/new clothes/etc. None were alts. Although maybe Dr. Mario was, but that's only confirmed for 4.Not to mention everybody HATES clone characters. They're just nothing but burying empty slots.
Then again, IMO, Doc was the only clones I could accept, because Lucina and Dark Pit's gameplay arenn't as good as their original, but Doc got a different special so different strategies. His differences between him and Mario are also much more noticeable than the other clones and their original.Joking aside, it's a matter of which clone people want instead. XD It's too bad it wasn't like Melee, where clones were still unique characters using the very basic model with recoloring/new clothes/etc. None were alts. Although maybe Dr. Mario was, but that's only confirmed for 4.
False, I don't hate clone characters.Not to mention everybody HATES clone characters.
False for me, if they're well done, have noticeable differences and unlockable (because having the possibility to compare clones from the start kinda ruins it for me)Not to mention everybody HATES clone characters.
I thought it was sarcasm...False, I don't hate clone characters.
Dark Pit at least has a unique Final Smash compared to Pit. That alone does it for me. Lucina could've been an alt, but her gameplay is different enough overall. They all feel pretty fun to me, imo. But to each their own, of course. Also, The Old One-Two is pretty powerful if you get both hits in. KO's fairly early, I must say.Then again, IMO, Doc was the only clones I could accept, because Lucina and Dark Pit's gameplay arenn't as good as their original, but Doc got a different special so different strategies. His differences between him and Mario are also much more noticeable than the other clones and their original.
True, Pitoo does have a different FS, ripping off Zelda/Sheik'sI thought it was sarcasm...
Dark Pit at least has a unique Final Smash compared to Pit. That alone does it for me. Lucina could've been an alt, but her gameplay is different enough overall. They all feel pretty fun to me, imo. But to each their own, of course. Also, The Old One-Two is pretty powerful if you get both hits in. KO's fairly early, I must say.
More like he ripped off Ash from Evil Dead. But yeah, it does look awesome and that alone does it for me.True, Pitoo does have a different FS, ripping off Zelda/Sheik's
I like F.L.U.D.D more >Except Doc, it's worth it to see a F.L.U.D.D.-less Mario. (I love Mario Tornado)
Well there's room for four at least, and there's those arrows that were found for both the css and sss. Also if they resized the css they could fit more characters and the mugshots would still be easily distinguishable from each other. (Except maybe Dark Pit and Pit, harhar.) Then there's that comment from the E3 treehouse streaming about the Mii Fighters taking up the random slot when turned on. Why would that have been in any sort of build unless there hadn't been room in the css at some point? It's possible that really was/is a thing but not as of now since they have some characters held back. I just don't think 5 more characters are out of the realm of possibility at some point down the line. Just gimme Ridley and Mewtwo and I'll be happy.- Not enough space on the 3DS CSS for the five bonus characters
- Its overall vagueness
- Master/Crazy Orders