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This so much
Which is why i support the idea of getting more characters, whether it's gonna be like rumors say or another way. We all know that modes and a few more stages aren't gonna be incentive enough for many ppl.
If you think the additional content for the WiiU Version is not enough, then don't buy it.
If there are Characters only available through getting both awesome. (Pokemon )
The WiiU Version is not a port. They worked on both versions simultaneously. And the WiiU Version is clearly the lead platform.
This is about games that have versions with just minor additional content. If you have version 1 and there is version 2 with just minor additional content, you have to decide if it's worth the money. It's not about voting with your wallet. It's just about the consumer. You think it's worth to basically buy the same game again? Okay, no reason to complain. You think it's not worth it? Okay, don't buy it and enjoy your version. No reason to complain.
I didn't said that, Geizt did.
That would make the WiiU version just the 3S version in HD. Anything special character wise would have to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator (ie the 3DS). It's a let down to the WiiU fans actually. We know it's what Sakurai wants, but it still a let down.
3DS owners I've found are VERY selfish when it comes to this game.
Now that I find dumb. I want more stuff besides characters(who I think should always be identical in this type of game) and HD. :/
I honestly hope the WiiU version will be amazing and will have many modes that are unique to that version alone, personally (yeah, even if I'm not getting that version and I don't plan to in the future). But, well, Sakurai said the roster were gonna at least be identical, so that's what I expect. It's not a matter of egoism, it's a matter of the game director to be coherent with his own words.
Temporarily different characters would be okay. Since it still is the same roster overall. But only to that degree. DLC day 1(free perhaps) for the 3DS version while the Wii U has some new ones is just as good.
He said they will play exactly the same across both versions as well.
I didn't know this. Thanks for pointing that out. It's a shame though, that the WiiU version seems to be more and more compromise at best.
He did say he wanted to make both. I think it's logical enough. I would not mind different taunts/victory screens/etc. As long as nothing affects regular gameplay, it's possible. IMO, I doubt it'll happen.
I feel as if the notion of having two versions of Smash in the first place inevitably causes some people to pick and choose which version they will buy, resulting with Nintendo essentially fighting itself for sales. If there was only one version (whether it would have been 3DS or Wii U) it overall would have better. This of course is excluding some outstanding variables such as consumers who buy a copy of each (the average consumer won't buy both versions) or the possibility of the Wii U version not selling as well because of the dismal sales of the console itself.
But of course. I like the fact it has the same roster because it still appeals to both crowds in a fair way. As the series is sold based upon the roster alone(not that other stuff doesn't help), making sure both is the same means you can pick and choose either and still win. I think that's the major selling point of this.
But it was also cheap, so... depends the price too.
Right. I do agree and see where you're coming from with what you're saying. You mentioned about an identical roster appealing to both crowds in a fair way; I think this notion of what is "fair" is the root of the area of contention in the community. Some say Wii U version should have exclusive characters to justify the price point (game and system both inherently being more expensive), and I understand that sentiment. However, I understand the counter argument stating that the Wii U version already has many incentives (i.e. HD, more music, more trophies, different modes?).But of course. I like the fact it has the same roster because it still appeals to both crowds in a fair way. As the series is sold based upon the roster alone(not that other stuff doesn't help), making sure both is the same means you can pick and choose either and still win. I think that's the major selling point of this.
Anyway, the exclusive modes, more accessible controller(for some), and higher content alone might do it. I've picked up "both" of things before anyway. The thing that made it worth it is having exclusive content. Take Soul Calibur II. I got the Xbox and GameCube versions. Why? Spawn and Link. I bought the 3DS and PS3 Generations. Why? Unique controls and courses. That alone is incentive, as long as they're different enough. Of course, Spawn alone is a pretty good incentive cause he's awesome.
I've heard that Sakurai was planning it only as a 3ds release. Sounds dumb but it's been quoted a lot. And if that was the case the WiiU version only having HD and a few bonus levels would be considered a glorified port in my book. Especially since the release dates were different.
If only it were that easy haha. I mean handheld smash is awesome. I love it. And for anywhere smashing it's great.
Totally agreed with you, the 3ds was a terrible idea. They simply did it because japanese love handheld consoles, but they forgot how that would hurt so much the home console version of the game's potential...
People would want a roster of 12 different coloured Ridleys and nothing else.
We don't have much to worry about with the next handheld Smash Bros. The 3DS's successor, whatever it will be, will be much more powerful than the 3DS, just like every generation! I strongly believe Ice Climbers can be in the next handheld Smash with no compromises.
Unless the next handheld is of equal power to the next TV console, then there will always be compromises if both a hand held and a TV version are made.
Will they think it's worth it to bring them back though?
They even brought back Dr. Mario, so I think it's likely!
I meant compared to past Smash Bros. I'm under the impression 3DS wasn't strong enough to handle something that even Melee could do. The next handheld will no doubt fix that, so I'm not too worried.
Yes, this is what I mean. If there's another portable Smash that is made independently, then that's one thing. But there's no doubt that the development of the 3DS version at the same time as the Wii U version has lead to things being cut, in both versions really.
We can only hope it has more modes. So far we don't even know. Can we even hope for an item frequency toggle?
Lack of Ice Climbers and possible newcomers due to hardware restraints. But once again. Most of us can deal with the same roster.I love the 3ds version. But why not a simultaneous release if you really aren't adding that much content. But whatever Sakurai and the SmashTeam does I'm fine with it. I am completely content with the 3ds version.
