MegaRobMan
Smash Hero
I'd say it's 53-47 Wolf, this is because Wolfs fair beats everything Marth can throw IIRC, I have NEVER played a legit excellent Marth main, though I've played a few really good secondary Marths.
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I hate to say it, but I think this is inevitable. That's why I'd rather we just start up exports/finish the ones we started again, because what they say doesn't even matter half the time, nor is it true.Everyone in the BBR will say they beat Wolf other then Low tiers (Who am I kidding, even some Low tiers think they go even with us). Whatever matchup spread is produced will be trash.
Wolf beats Ike 60-40. Once you get him off stage, it's death.The only character that is lower on the tier list that beats Wolf is Sheik IMO.
Maybe Ike in the hands of MR. Doom, lulz, but that's just him being a better player.
Squirtle is garbage ftw.
squirtle aint garbage espically when reflex is usin him trust me I knowThe only character that is lower on the tier list that beats Wolf is Sheik IMO.
Maybe Ike in the hands of MR. Doom, lulz, but that's just him being a better player.
Squirtle is garbage ftw.
I hate Olimar. He can do a 60-70% combo on Wolf under certain conditions...Can anyone find me vids of Wolf vs Olimar that aren't
Kain vs Logic
and Seagull vs Logic?
I honestly can't find any other ones....
u should know u can't take a match vs mr.r as guideline for the MU because he is a better player than you by far.Wolf slightly wins it in my opinion. My experience against Marth is a bit outdated I admit but I'm hoping to play Mr-R soon to see how I'll do.
I think it's "No offense" with an S rofl. Offence is breaking the law. I still don't find Wario that bad. The matchup is even without the cg for the most part. His gimmicks are easy to see coming.LOL no offence taken. That's like saying "M2K is better than you, no offence" XD
And I can tell if somebody outplays me or if somebody abuses the match-up. I just have to actually play it more.
I still think D3 is worst. D3 can infinite too and his is legal on Wolf. D3 you need to play a perfect game or risk everything. Wario can't cg us across the stage to a released Bair>Bair kill almost always or kill us early with Utilt. He is also super ****ing heavy. Our gimmicks can NEVER be used on him because the risks outweight the reward in almost every scenario. Wario's cg is rare for Wario's to do it and the matchup still is just constant Wolf zoning. Wario vs Wolf is even without cg too. Generally, I enjoy versing Wario players because they all use gimmicks like SHAD behind or near. I just shield if they do it out of grab range of grab them rofl.Ice Climbers are nowhere near our worst match-up.
Wario is our worst match-up, that's not even debatable. Stages and other gimmicks can't safe us.
DDD is very hard but if we find ways to time him out there's a chance we can beat him.
Pikachu is no problem if we could use the handicap ... without handicap I don't know it enough.
Snake is worse than ICs for us, as is Sheik.
u should know u can't take a match vs mr.r as guideline for the MU because he is a better player than you by far.
no offence
Ics aren't bad for us. WE CAN APPROACH WITHOUT GETTING GRABBED. WE AREN'T FAWKS.Errr we haven't compiled a complete matchup thread yet Abel....
but generally our worst matchups are
King DDD
Wario
Pikachu
Ice Climbers
Because they can all chaingrab.
Our best ones are Ganondorf etc etc. low tiers
if he has any vertical height, i.e. you didnt just dthrow him at like 100 then he can stay far enough from the stage and get high up enough quick enough that it isnt that dangerous for himSnake sucks though. He's like the easiest character to get roof KO's on especially if you knock him offstage at pretty high percent, he's gonna DJ then go right into cypher it's one of the easiest things to read
K9 used to use Wolf so he knows exactly how to punish Wolf. He still uses Wolf sometimes in dubz.although i agree that wario is fairly even (without CG, cuz be honest, its like nair > grab > death or like 140%, same thing), it sounds like you're underestimating him.
ALOT.
and yes snake is tough
gull do u still think some snake we've never heared of (kenny was it??) could beat every wolf player.
It seems contradictory with a 45-55 MU.
Doesn't really sound like a good idea to me.Quick poll, who thinks that camping Snake more or less the whole match is a good idea? Because I mean, if you have good control of shine and instant throwing, all you need to do is watch out for grenade stripping and you can kinda hold your own unless the Snake is really intelligent (grenade stripping sucks).
I agree with your logic, but how do you hit Snake in the first place on a neutral stage, it just never works out for me ;__; bleh.Doesn't really sound like a good idea to me.
snake is like one of the easiest characters to get alot of hits on once you get that first one
i myself try to abuse this to the max
but heck
im european.