Use Dacus instead of Fsmash to punish Tornado.
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Use Dacus instead of Fsmash to punish Tornado.
ah ok i thought the box was like near his chest then moves up a bit, now that i know that i'll try using it moreIts hit box is above him. Its very similar to GnW's Utilt.
Falcos is (kind of) fast, but still weak...falcos/lucas/mks/pika def have better utilts for their respective characters.
Falcos is EXTREMELY fast
Lucas uses it to combo and finish combos
Mks is faster and have better priority than wolfs
and pikachu's utilt combos into his thunder for the kill.
Olimar's utilt is annoying as ****. it's def. better than wolfs
You can DI out of the thunder if you hold both sticks to the left or right. Requires pretty good timing. or with wolf you can always DI then reflector it =D thunder just hits the pillar of lightningutilt thunder is a legitimate tactic for pikachu's. you can't really DI the utilt that much and even if you do all pika needs to do is qac thunder. not only that but it sets up other things at low %'s, and it has huge range with low start up. its much better than wolf's utilt..
Doubt u wud b able to DI the thunder to survive at the % the they wud even b attempting this setupYou can DI out of the thunder if you hold both sticks to the left or right. Requires pretty good timing. or with wolf you can always DI then reflector it =D thunder just hits the pillar of lightning
using C-stick to DI or SDI doesnt make much a difference. C-stick only gives 1 input when its held, its not like the analog stick that gives continuous inputs.You can DI out of the thunder if you hold both sticks to the left or right. Requires pretty good timing. or with wolf you can always DI then reflector it =D thunder just hits the pillar of lightning
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Some videos would be useful.you guys should all give me feedback, i want to get better and i can only notice so many bad habits on my own.
two vids just put up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxKfJT_aJQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWwrFUy2PEQ
i think thats all i had recorded at that tourney.
edit: nvm i guess someone else put it up before me
No, you can't overuse jump shine, especially in that match up.I think you overused jumpshine.
Hey, I'm a busy guy >_______> lolunlike ishiey, i'm on top of things when it comes to wolf videos ;-)
I know Nair OoS works if they choose to b right above u after there daircuz i dont know how you're supposed to punish peach. i used to punish dair with usmash and then susanna started nairing after dair instead of dairing again or something. now i'm scared and try not to get hit so i jump shine. if there are better punishes tell me and i will gladly start doing those instead. i only recently started reading through peach's frame data so i'm not all that familiar with what i should be punishing with.
They can't do nothing if u Nair right when there done OoSregardless of what they do afterwards? gah once this week is over i'm gonna study peach frame data like a motha.
The strong hitare you talking about hitting them with the strong hit of nair or the weaker ones?
Your wrong again. I know what I'm talking about, there are definetely better options than jumpshining when there is the chance to punish with Fsmash or Bair OoS, there is no thing to discuss about this, it's a fact.No, you can't overuse jump shine, especially in that match up.
Maybe so, but you can't overuse jump shine in that match up. You can use it needlessly, ineffectively, or unsafely, but when done properly, you can't overuse it. When you say that he overused it, if you mean that he used it too much, then I'm afraid that you're incorrect, if you mean that he used it inappropriately, then I have no idea why you label that "overused."Your wrong again. I know what I'm talking about, there are definetely better options than jumpshining when there is the chance to punish with Fsmash or Bair OoS, there is no thing to discuss about this, it's a fact.
Hmm can you tell me exactly where so i know what the situation looks like? I thought when peach bair's your shield and lands on the ground she still has frame advantage but maybe i'm wrong. I think i've tried to bair after susanna bair's my shield and she blocks it and then punishes oos, i may not have input the bair fast enough or reacted fast enough though.Your wrong again. I know what I'm talking about, there are definetely better options than jumpshining when there is the chance to punish with Fsmash or Bair OoS, there is no thing to discuss about this, it's a fact.
@Choice:
I did not mean the jumpshines after Dair, that's good, but here an example: Sometimes the peach did a SH Bair with momentum away against your shield, then jumpshines is senseless because she was in Bair range and you had the advantage anyway.
Yea i can see that. I went into the first game thinking that i have to js as much as possible in this mu. I don't think i had the same mentality 2nd game but i'll be sure to remind myself.Maybe so, but you can't overuse jump shine in that match up. You can use it needlessly, ineffectively, or unsafely, but when done properly, you can't overuse it. When you say that he overused it, if you mean that he used it too much, then I'm afraid that you're incorrect, if you mean that he used it inappropriately, then I have no idea why you label that "overused."
Choice: Needs more jump shine. It's usage dropped off in the second game.