PsychoMidget
Smash Lord
for sure the english version will be a 100x better
all because David Hayter will be voicing Snake
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The Ultimate Snake Compendium
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all because David Hayter will be voicing Snake
Jeff Highwind
Smash Ace
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Coulda been worse, He could've been a C.Falcon clone.
Box Edgeguard possible (like Luigi taunt spike)???
PsychoMidget
Smash Lord
well the taunt is much longer than luigis so they'd have to be pretty bad to get hit by it, plus I don't think it spikes
I also added several tournament matches of snake to the The Official Solid Snake Video Archive Thread
PsychoMidget, those tourney matches are amazing. Uair to up-B to uair surprised me, wish I'd thought of it.
I don't have easy access to Brawl right now, so could I ask you to test something for me? Try landing a down-B on your opponent. I think you have to be in the air and on top of them, rest style, but I know it's possible and I'd like to know the applicability. Maybe air-dodge to down-B?
As for this thread, I noticed some stuff in the down-B section. It detonates after a set amount of time automatically, and it can only be detonated with down-B, not just any B move. You can down-B in the air, both to lay and to donate, and when you lay it, it falls straight down with no momentum.
Also, if you're hit while holding a grenade, Snake drops it immediately. Stupid Pit arrows.
I don't have easy access to Brawl right now, so could I ask you to test something for me? Try landing a down-B on your opponent. I think you have to be in the air and on top of them, rest style, but I know it's possible and I'd like to know the applicability. Maybe air-dodge to down-B?
As for this thread, I noticed some stuff in the down-B section. It detonates after a set amount of time automatically, and it can only be detonated with down-B, not just any B move. You can down-B in the air, both to lay and to donate, and when you lay it, it falls straight down with no momentum.
Also, if you're hit while holding a grenade, Snake drops it immediately. Stupid Pit arrows.
PsychoMidget
Smash Lord
haha thanks the U-air to Up-B U-air was something I wanted to try and it worked well
I don't have very easy access to the game either :[ I'd love to know whether or not you can/how to place C4 on people
as for grenades, being hit does seem to make you drop them, you can also force yourself to drop it by shielding
and... enemies can catch them and throw them back, but you should time it to where it blows up around when it gets to them, I believe its 5 seconds after you pull the trigger
I know for a fact that you can plant C4 on people. I first noticed it during a match where I hit down-B to detonate a mine I thought I placed in the wrong spot, and the explosion was on Ike, who was jumping at the top of the screen. I duplicated the effect in a match against a R.O.B as well. If the other person doesn't see it happen, it makes a quick KO when they jump.
Standard grenade timers (in MGS and I think in real life) are 6 seconds long, so it's probably 6 seconds.
You'll probably get to play Brawl again before I do, and if not you, then maybe someone else reading this thread, so I'd like anyone available to test these things. Another thing I wanted to test was alternative grenade throws by dropping a short-range grenade and then picking it back up to throw like a normal item. If anyone could try these things, it'd be much appreciated.
But yeah PsychoMidget you're like my hero. Those matches were really good. Maybe we'll wifi someday kekekekeke.
Standard grenade timers (in MGS and I think in real life) are 6 seconds long, so it's probably 6 seconds.
You'll probably get to play Brawl again before I do, and if not you, then maybe someone else reading this thread, so I'd like anyone available to test these things. Another thing I wanted to test was alternative grenade throws by dropping a short-range grenade and then picking it back up to throw like a normal item. If anyone could try these things, it'd be much appreciated.
But yeah PsychoMidget you're like my hero. Those matches were really good. Maybe we'll wifi someday kekekekeke.
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
I think in one of the videos I saw the other character pick up a grenade and throw it back. Is that possible, or was I seeing things?
Yes, grenades are just like turnips/link bombs/etc. Snake just has a different mechanicsm for the initial throw. If you hold them until the timer almost runs out, there's no danger of the other guy grabbing it back. Mix them up and sometimes they'll grab a grenade to throw it back and it blows up in their face.
SolidSonic
Smash Ace
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Per WiFiwars.com - http://www.wifiwars.com/?q=node/93
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Hope this doesn't become a problem.
Lee Harris said:
Dr. Stormlocke
Smash Rookie
Thank you very much for spending the time to make this thread. Snake is the reason I finally decided to register here, so it's awesome to be greeted with such a detailed guide.
PsychoMidget
Smash Lord
you know... there was one time i dropped c4 while fast falling and detonated it before it hit the ground, i was extremely close to the explosion so I suppose it's possible
No Limitz
Smash Cadet
Snake's box does damage when he throws it off.
PsychoMidget
Smash Lord
I already posted that somewhere but yeah it does
NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
I saw in a recent video that Snake can just walk up to an opponent and stick the C4 on them.
Is there any way for them to get it off? Because that's fantastic!
Is there any way for them to get it off? Because that's fantastic!
chaos_Leader
Smash Lord
Although I don't plan on making Snake my #1 character (that goes to the StarFox trio) the sheer ridiculous possibilities of his exploding things makes me feel like an evil genius inside. (no pun intended)
Here's to looking forward to having Snake as a strong secondary.
Here's to looking forward to having Snake as a strong secondary.
Hoboman725
Smash Journeyman
regarding c4, I've seen plenty of evidence to show that you can use other b moves without detonating c4.
as examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0mNzm8bWs
:33 snake plants c4
:48 snake uses nikita
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc27fRtXJwU
1:22 plants c4 in midair, lands right side of middle diamond
1:33 throws grenade
1:38 uses nikita
1:47 detonates c4
as examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr0mNzm8bWs
:33 snake plants c4
:48 snake uses nikita
and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc27fRtXJwU
1:22 plants c4 in midair, lands right side of middle diamond
1:33 throws grenade
1:38 uses nikita
1:47 detonates c4
Yes you can C4 people. I usually do it after getting hit up off the ground. When you're recovering, they'll try to uair you or something, and you can airdodge through it and C4 them on the way down. Also, crawling up to someone using the crouch mechanic and sticking them with C4 works sometimes. If you stick a person, the noise is different, and you just wait for them to be far away from you before you detonate.
Curbside_Prophet
Smash Cadet
I have never been able to stick it to someone maybe Im doing it wrong but you can detonate it in mid air.but its hard to not hit yourslef because of the size of the blast
geemann2236
Smash Journeyman
Snake is a beast. Enough said.
Snake can also plant c4 ON his opponent and detonate it whenever he wants. I saw it once ill try to find a video confiming it it might be this one.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tpGahx7Ev1s
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tpGahx7Ev1s
Jeff Highwind
Smash Ace
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Old news, right now people are trying to figure out how to consistently do this.
It wasn't anywere in the guide so i thought id just mention it. So your saying it doesn't always work or its just hard to do safely?
bman in 2288
Smash Journeyman
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Hard to do safely. Think Jigglypuff's rest move, only with a couple frames of wind up, and even then, they don't even flinch.
Oni Andrew
Smash Apprentice
Do you know the translations for his codec conversations?
And if so, what are the Fire Emblem characters'?
And if so, what are the Fire Emblem characters'?
Kamaji
Smash Ace
My teammate and I have been succesfully using this strategy in tournaments:
First I stick a c4 to him, then he goes and chases someone down and touches them (which sticks the c4 to our opponent), then wait for a good time to blow them up. I'll try to find one of my tourney matches on youtube in a minute for you guys.
sorry, none of those ones got recorded...
First I stick a c4 to him, then he goes and chases someone down and touches them (which sticks the c4 to our opponent), then wait for a good time to blow them up. I'll try to find one of my tourney matches on youtube in a minute for you guys.
sorry, none of those ones got recorded...
PsychoMidget
Smash Lord
Gimpy and I also do that, but none of our matches have been uploaded
I guess Glenn just hates doubles
Kamaji
Smash Ace
GAH! The rapastick is so hard! (aka- dash cancelling w/ upsmash without hitting anyone)
SK8orDIE
Smash Apprentice
This compendium is getting less ultimate by the minute. It could really use a rewrite with less speculation and more fact. The author should be compiling information from our comments and from the other posts. I suppose that once everyone has the game, it will become obvious what's common knowledge and what's valuable information (worth writing about). In the meantime, there are several things that need updating:
cypher camera deals 3% damage if your opponent touches the it while/after Snake lets go of it. not sure about touching the camera while Snake is still on it.
down-air doesn't spike, last hit can KO (you imply this talking about Dedede, but it's probably good to just say that it can KO).
dash attack can KO
cypher camera deals 3% damage if your opponent touches the it while/after Snake lets go of it. not sure about touching the camera while Snake is still on it.
down-air doesn't spike, last hit can KO (you imply this talking about Dedede, but it's probably good to just say that it can KO).
dash attack can KO