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The Sword of Seals - Roy Moveset + Frame Data (incomplete)
- Thread starter MarioMeteor
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Azazel
Smash Journeyman
late hit of u-air is better.
the sweetspot is bigger
sweet spot true combos into any aerial
sweet spot has more shield push which makes it safer on shield if you are drifting the opposite direction of shield push (bair does this better though)
the sour spot is pretty safe as well.
can convert sourspot into a combo with a soft read (basically a frame trap)
upair is a long lasting hitbox and covers more space than bair, covering more options
You can approach by double jump baiting and punish with Uair > nair/bair/fair/uair.
this is pretty good tactic on floaties since after they attempt to jump after you can land earlier because Roy is a fast faller.
if they dont take the bait you can still cover landing with counter or retreating uair (pretty good because of his airspeed) so this tactic can be pretty effective and roy has the tools to minimize risks.
rar DJ bait to use retreating uairs without needing to cross-up your opponent (to avoid having predictable movement)
the sweetspot is bigger
sweet spot true combos into any aerial
sweet spot has more shield push which makes it safer on shield if you are drifting the opposite direction of shield push (bair does this better though)
the sour spot is pretty safe as well.
can convert sourspot into a combo with a soft read (basically a frame trap)
upair is a long lasting hitbox and covers more space than bair, covering more options
You can approach by double jump baiting and punish with Uair > nair/bair/fair/uair.
this is pretty good tactic on floaties since after they attempt to jump after you can land earlier because Roy is a fast faller.
if they dont take the bait you can still cover landing with counter or retreating uair (pretty good because of his airspeed) so this tactic can be pretty effective and roy has the tools to minimize risks.
rar DJ bait to use retreating uairs without needing to cross-up your opponent (to avoid having predictable movement)
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LuLLo
Smash Ace
Thank you Hiddles, thank you 
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Pale Tuna
Smash Apprentice
May be patched later down the road? It seems to be very game changing.. Might have to try it sometime later. 
ViviLion
Smash Rookie
this saved me losing a game in for glory about an hour ago, i got 0-deathed by a toon link cause i'm bad, he beat me up to 135% before i took his first stock, and got me to about 160% where i eventually upB out of shield as he tried to smash me, and killed him from around 30%
the unpredictiablity is so strong, the enemy thinks they won and just dies
the unpredictiablity is so strong, the enemy thinks they won and just dies
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Razmakazi
Smash Champion
Also, roy doesn't really have super limited approaches, especially since he's fast, has a really good dash pivot, and can shut down most approaches with side b, sh nair, dtilt, and tricky use of fair/bair. Uair isn't really something to approach with but the idea of cross-up sh can be combined with better moves anyway.