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[Shroob]

I honestly believe the main reason Nuts & Bolts git nearly as much hate as it did was because it portrayed the original games as outdated, boring junk and more or less vocally insulted it's own target audience to justify the change of genre and gameplay in-universe.

If it had been handled with more tact, the game might have gotten a warmer reception from fans. Not without detractors, but certainly better reception than what it originally got and has for years.

Ehhhh, to a non-vocal minority probably, but let's be honest, the loudest thing that was said about Banjo Kazooie was "It's not like the old games/the car."

Yeah, there's definitely people that point at the intro cutscene and how it makes light of the old games and the fans of said games, but go to any video "reviewing" it and you'll mainly just see complaining about "The car".

 

[osby]

I think more games should openly mock their fans if gamers are so comfortable personally insulting developers over the slightest perceived mistake.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Imagine putting Banjo in a vehicle.

Real talk for a moment, I think there's a market for a Nuts and Bolts today, at least a spiritual successor. When I get students to talk about their dream game, a lot of them just end up describing Nuts and Bolts.

 

[Shroob]

But yeah.


There's nothing wrong with the idea of a new Banjo game.


Hell, look at Crash 4. Crash 4 is a great game.......as long as you don't try to 100% it. Just, I 100% can see the video essays that are long enough to hit ad runtime proclaiming how it's bad because it's not the same.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Crash 4 had me not want to participate in its bull****. I just ended up skipping anything that wasn't mandatory and is probably the only Crash game that led to me not caring about getting the crates.

 

[Shroob]

Crash 4 had me not want to participate in its bull****. I just ended up skipping anything that wasn't mandatory and is probably the only Crash game that led to me not caring about getting the crates.

I stand by that Crash 4 is a good game, but it's got some DK64ness in terms of "There's TOO much stuff"


When Caddicarus, the 1# Crash guy can't take it, you know there's 'too' much.

 

[PLATINUM7]

I stand by that Crash 4 is a good game, but it's got some DK64ness in terms of "There's TOO much stuff"


When Caddicarus, the 1# Crash guy can't take it, you know there's 'too' much.

I honestly ended up channeling the AVGN the way I listed out all the stuff that ticked me off as I played through it.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I've heard this complaint before but no idea where it comes from as I didn't play the game - what's wrong with Sea of Stars?



So every Sonic game release ever, got it.

Sea of Stars is a pretty standard RPG and the writers hate that so they feel the need to look straight into the camera and mock The Thing They Are Doing and go "Hahaha" because if you say your story is cliche and have standard RPG stuff to the player, then the player suddenly won't notice it and think it's actually funny and clever! Also the character literally named after the word cliche isn't the character constantly winking at the audience and is instead played straight, what the hell happened there

you see the most absurd switch ups

Case and point to the Banjo discussion, remember how many people kept saying "APOLOGIZE TO NUTS AND BOLTS" cause of TotK's vehicle crafting stuff? I'd joke about people pretending Sonic 06 is secretly a masterpiece when you stop being unfair and biased, but people already do that

 

[Will]

Case and point to the Banjo discussion, remember how many people kept saying "APOLOGIZE TO NUTS AND BOLTS" cause of TotK's vehicle crafting stuff? I'd joke about people pretending Sonic 06 is secretly a masterpiece when you stop being unfair and biased, but people already do that

No, you don’t understand, if they just gave it the same treatment as Sonic X Shadow Generstions, fixed the bugs, fixed the camera, fixed the loading time, improved the graphics, make the multiplayer mode compatible with online, removed the questionable human-hedgehog romance plot, I promise it would sell a Mephillion copies

 

[Hex D. Jess]

Sea of Stars is a pretty standard RPG and the writers hate that so they feel the need to look straight into the camera and mock The Thing They Are Doing and go "Hahaha" because if you say your story is cliche and have standard RPG stuff to the player, then the player suddenly won't notice it and think it's actually funny and clever! Also the character literally named after the word cliche isn't the character constantly winking at the audience and is instead played straight, what the hell happened there

I haven't played the game, but I know it's a prequel to The Messenger and the writing in that game is pretty much the same and I found it mildly funny at times because the game is fairly light on story, meaning it doesn't overstay its welcome. I would hate to play a story based game written like this

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I think more games should openly mock their fans if gamers are so comfortable personally insulting developers over the slightest perceived mistake.

Actually,, after seeing so many of the complaints from the Smash fanbase, you might have a fair point.