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Which was your favorite new Pokémon revealed from the Scarlet and Violet trailer?


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TheMightyP

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Hey, TheMightyP TheMightyP your Splatoon waifu is back


Woah how did that gif get there?

bark bark
 

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Hey, TheMightyP TheMightyP your Splatoon waifu is back
Marina rocking those heels, get it girl, **** em up
 

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I'm blaming him for the heat

DAILY DEMON SHOWCASE

This showcase's demon is of the Vile race:

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“I’m Vile Saturnus. Hail my arrival as the beginning of an era of plenty and joy!”

Alignment: Dark-Law

Origin: Roman mythology. The god of agriculture, wealth, and seasons. His reign was considered a Golden Age of prosperity and peace. After the Greek conquest, Romans conflated him with Titan Cronus. He has two mistresses that represent his two sides: his sister Ops, a goddess of abundance and the mother of Jupiter, and Lua, a goddess of military destruction. Saturnus’s festival Saturnia was one of the most famous in the entire empire.

Skills: Akashic Arts, Ragnarok, Fire Dracostrike, Ice Block

Next time, you will meet a demon of the Lady race.

Saturnus’s heavy association with fire always struck me as a bit odd. It’s a pretty cool design otherwise and would make for an amazing sun deity. Same with his Vile classification. Saturn is actually a revered god but his association with the Greek king of Titans probably made him suitable for the race. I don’t need to tell this but Saturnus focuses on one thing: clearing everything not immune to fire damage with sheer force.
 

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Why cant sega just let people donwhatnthey need to freaking do?
It worth it to read all the posts in this thread
 

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Why cant sega just let people donwhatnthey need to freaking do?
It worth it to read all the posts in this thread
They still haven't learned their lesson from Sonic 06, and they think that they need to rush out a game in time for an anniversary even though that's rarely if ever worked for them. (though I don't even think this was an anniversary game; last year would have been Sonic's 30th anniversary)
 
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So for those who don't feel like reading or are unable to click on the thread:
  • The version HeadCannon sent in was not the version we saw
  • Sega broke the game themselves (cause they suck)
  • The big bug fixes aren't in place because Sega said no delays (also resulting in crunch, which they knew would happen)
  • Nobody on the team was satisfied with the product
  • There's a good chance this burns bridges and no more Sonic games from them (but he just wants to get the word out)
  • (In a seperate tweet) most of his issies come from Sega Of Japan, Iizuka not being one of them
But hey they're not as anal on copyright. Sega does what Nintendont
It was that Sega made major changes to the version they did submit, not that they used a different one, but yeah still bad either way of course:
 
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You know, the Octo Expansion was wild. Cuttlefish out of nowhere starts racially profilling Marina, Pearl was somehow was completely unaware that Marina was a different race, but then starts threating Cuttlefish that if she would kill him if he were to hate crime her, and the Cuttlefish goes, "I LOVE MINORITIES! I DON'T SEE RACE!"

Probably the funniest **** in a Nintendo game
 

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You know, the Octo Expansion was wild. Cuttlefish out of nowhere starts racially profilling Marina, Pearl was somehow was completely unaware that Marina was a different race, but then starts threating Cuttlefish that if she would kill him if he were to hate crime her, and the Cuttlefish goes, "I LOVE MINORITIES! I DON'T SEE RACE!"

Probably the funniest **** in a Nintendo game
I... NEVER PLAYED THE OCTO EXPANSION? THIS IS A THING? Oh you gotta show me this.
 

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So for those who don't feel like reading or are unable to click on the thread:
  • The version HeadCannon sent in was not the version we saw
  • Sega broke the game themselves (cause they suck)
  • The big bug fixes aren't in place because Sega said no delays (also resulting in crunch, which they knew would happen)
  • Nobody on the team was satisfied with the product
  • There's a good chance this burns bridges and no more Sonic games from them (but he just wants to get the word out)
  • (In a seperate tweet) most of his issies come from Sega Of Japan, Iizuka not being one of them
But hey they're not as anal on copyright. Sega does what Nintendont
Sega may not mess with copyright but at leaset Nintendo doesnt **** up and change the game people send them

Its honestly a catch 22, if thats the right term
 

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Sega pulling a stinky with Origins is , unfortunately, not surprising given how Mania's devs were treated.


They may not stop you from emulating their old games they don't sell anymore, play and make fangames, or other fan works and preservation works, but like...They ain't saints, lol.
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Remember kids, even if a company that made a game you like does a stinky, you shouldn't simp for another one, because they might end up doing a stinky too! Companies aren't your friends and there is no ethical consumption under capitalism!
 
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One thing I want to say, which is NOT in defense of Sonic Team or Sega; I noticed someone from somewhere say they have not learned from Sonic 06 with Origins. That may be the case, somewhat, but for Sonic 06, they just moved the release date to an earlier time, giving no time to fix the physics, gameplay and everything else. For Origins, it seems mostly that they edited most of the things Headcanon and the other non-Sonic Team workers did, which backfired. It is possible they could still learn from that in the future.

Not trying to defend anyone here, I just wanted to point out one thing about how Sonic 06 ended up and how Sonic Origins ended up are not entirely the same thing.
 

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One thing I want to say, which is NOT in defense of Sonic Team or Sega; I noticed someone from somewhere say they have not learned from Sonic 06 with Origins. That may be the case, somewhat, but for Sonic 06, they just moved the release date to an earlier time, giving no time to fix the physics, gameplay and everything else. For Origins, it seems mostly that they edited most of the things Headcanon and the other non-Sonic Team workers did, which backfired. It is possible they could still learn from that in the future.

Not trying to defend anyone here, I just wanted to point out one thing about how Sonic 06 ended up and how Sonic Origins ended up are not entirely the same thing.
Okay but while Origins has some minor issues, it is by far not anything remotely similar to 06 IMO, and anyone comparing the two is both

A. Reaching.

and,

B. Showing Sonic fans really can't let go.
 

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Okay but while Origins has some minor issues, it is by far not anything remotely similar to 06 IMO, and anyone comparing the two is both

A. Reaching.

and,

B. Showing Sonic fans really can't let go.
Neither in my case. I was just pointing something out. I was not the one who said "they have not learned from Sonic 06" here.
 

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Neither in my case. I was just pointing something out. I was not the one who said "they have not learned from Sonic 06" here.
Oh no, I wasn't talking about you, I know you didn't say that lol we all good. I was talking about whoever did.

06 was years ago, and whining about it isn't funny, unique, or interesting anymore. Sonic fans need new material.


What did they add again, I didn't quite catch it
Nintendo: "You all want more ROMs? CHECK THIS OUT"
 
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Sega. More like Seg- Don’t buy their games.
 
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Oh no, I wasn't talking about you, I know you didn't say that lol we all good. I was talking about whoever did.

06 was years ago, and whining about it isn't funny, unique, interesting anymore.



Nintendo: "You all want more ROMs? CHECK THIS OUT"
Figured. But yeah, the comparing Origins to Sonic 06 is just ridiculous.
 

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Okay but while Origins has some minor issues, it is by far not anything remotely similar to 06 IMO, and anyone comparing the two is both

A. Reaching.

and,

B. Showing Sonic fans really can't let go.
It's more of the fact that Sega hasn't learned and keeps repeating the same **** that ****ed over devs teams since Sonic Xtreme, which includes 06.
 

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It's more of the fact that Sega hasn't learned and keeps repeating the same **** that ****ed over devs teams since Sonic Xtreme, which includes 06.
That admittedly is a more valid comparison. I assumed it was a comparison in the game's quality.
 
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It's more of the fact that Sega hasn't learned and keeps repeating the same **** that ****ed over devs teams since Sonic Xtreme, which includes 06.
Well, that may be applicable with Headcannon here and all, but I still think, as I was saying, the circumstances on why Sonic Origins turned out are still different from Sonic 06. It is possible they could still learn from that. Likely? Maybe not, but it is still a different thing altogether to me.
 

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That admittedly is a more valid comparison. I assumed it was a comparison in the game's quality.
I love Sonic but I am so tired of SEGA mishandling him and mistreating devs. You're gonna make the moolah regardless, it's Sonic, give the resources the devs need. So frustrating that they can't even do that and we get hella rushed products.
Well, that may be applicable with Headcannon here and all, but I still think, as I was saying, the circumstances on why Sonic Origins turned out are still different from Sonic 06. It is possible they could still learn from that. Likely? Maybe not, but it is still a different thing altogether to me.
The results were different, but the cirvumstamves were very similar.
 

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I love Sonic but I am so tired of SEGA mishandling him and mistreating devs. You're gonna make the moolah regardless, it's Sonic, give the resources the devs need. So frustrating that they can't even do that and we get hella rushed products.

The results were different, but the cirvumstamves were very similar.
Whatever. I don't think I said they were entirely different, by the way.

In response to what you told Nyan, I must admit, I wish Sega could do better with the devs they work with as well.
 

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I love Sonic but I am so tired of SEGA mishandling him and mistreating devs. You're gonna make the moolah regardless, it's Sonic, give the resources the devs need. So frustrating that they can't even do that and we get hella rushed products.
Sonic has pretty much proven he's unkillable at this point so the unfortunate truth is that they're seeing the current model is working and getting them money at faster turn arounds, soooooooo :drshrug:


Sucks eggs but them's the unfortunate breaks. I love this series, but I've come to just kinda take the good with the bad: Its devs are crazy talented, but it seems they will forever be doomed to management that still hasn't learned the lesson that needed to be learned all the way back during the Sega Saturn launch: "Hey, maybe video games are HARD and need TIME! What a wacky idea!"
 
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