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Which was your favorite new Pokémon revealed from the Scarlet and Violet trailer?


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..........anyway I just ****ing realized the other day that Pearl and Marina's Octo Expansion outfits are ****ing Biggie and Tupac how am I this stupid not to realize....
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Inb4 it’s foreshadowing that they both get killed and replaced in splatoon 3.

also if Splatoon was not once earth, does that mean off the hook knew of biggie and Tupac?
 

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Went out to the convenience store


Some dude was driving in an exact replica of the Toy Story Pizza Planet truck, even had the rocket on top and the back Toyota logo scuffed off to just say YO.
That's make real life more like a Pixar movie than either of the Incredibles movies :yoshi:
 

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Why can’t they sell a third party character without a stage or separate from the pass?
They 'could' sure.


But 3rd party characters are guests at the end of the day, and they're basically treated as such, getting the red carpet rolled out for them, since them coming to Smash is a big occasion.


The only 3rd party characters to not get stages were Richter and Ken, and they were still revealed in big, flashy CG trailers.


1st party? Yeah, I'd buy that.

3rd party? They get the red carpet rolled out for them.
 

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They 'could' sure.


But 3rd party characters are guests at the end of the day, and they're basically treated as such, getting the red carpet rolled out for them, since them coming to Smash is a big occasion.


The only 3rd party characters to not get stages were Richter and Ken, and they were still revealed in big, flashy CG trailers.


1st party? Yeah, I'd buy that.

3rd party? They get the red carpet rolled out for them.
That sounds more like a fan rule made by you, to be honest.
 

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They 'could' sure.


But 3rd party characters are guests at the end of the day, and they're basically treated as such, getting the red carpet rolled out for them, since them coming to Smash is a big occasion.


The only 3rd party characters to not get stages were Richter and Ken, and they were still revealed in big, flashy CG trailers.


1st party? Yeah, I'd buy that.

3rd party? They get the red carpet rolled out for them.
I don’t see why they can’t do something they’ve never done before. Like.... they aren’t robots or math problems. They have free will and can do whatever they want.
 

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Like I said, it could happen.


But when we see that 3rd party characters are held on a higher pedestal, and get all the fixings for advertisement, I severely doubt we'd ever get one as a "Bonus" fighter unless they were an echo.
Well, most characters in both passes are third party. Who’s to say that they can’t get lots of work done to make one a bonus character?
 

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That sounds more like a fan rule made by you, to be honest.
He didn't even say it wasn't something that couldn't happen, though. He just said he was doubtful.

Plus, he's right: They've never treated 3rd parties as "one more thing" inclusions: They're always treating super well and get a bunch of stuff with 'em. I really don't see us getting a third party without at least a stage and music, IMO.
 
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Well, most characters in both passes are third party. Who’s to say that they can’t get lots of work done to make one a bonus character?
Well, Sakurai for one, considering he's hammered in that the last 2 are done and done.


There's a possibility there could be a "SURPRISE!" at the end, but I'm very hard pressed to believe they'd give away a 3rd party character for free.
 

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Well, Sakurai for one, considering he's hammered in that the last 2 are done and done.


There's a possibility there could be a "SURPRISE!" at the end, but I'm very hard pressed to believe they'd give away a 3rd party character for free.
There's also the idea Nintendo would hand out a Smash character of all things for free, and, uh...

This is the company that locked fast travel in Skyward Sword behind an upcoming amiibo.

Yeah. :191:
 

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That sounds more like a fan rule made by you, to be honest.
It's not though.

In Smash 4, Sonic was the only veteran to get his own dedicated trailer and he got a new stage to boot. All the 3rd parties in Ultimate got big band presentation with Sakurai just flexing how much content they got from 3rd parties and how much attentiom to detail they put into them. Just look at Terry or Steve's presentation vs. Pyra or MinMin's. The difference is night and day.
 

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He didn't even say it wasn't something that couldn't happen, though. He just said he was doubtful.

Plus, he's right: They've never treated 3RD parties as "one more thing" inclusions: They're always treating super well and get a bunch of stuff with 'em. I really don't see us getting a third party without at least a stage and music, IMO.
Unless it is from a character from a third party series already in Smash. As cool as it would be, Geno was in a Mario game, and may not need a stage for that matter.

Still, more so than Geno being a bonus, Shroob Shroob I also can’t see a bonus character happening as well.
 

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It's not though.

In Smash 4, Sonic was the only veteran to get his own dedicated trailer and he got a new stage to boot. All the 3rd parties in Ultimate got big band presentation with Sakurai just flexing how much content they got from 3rd parties and how much attentiom to detail they put into them. Just look at Terry or Steve's presentation vs. Pyra or MinMin's. The difference is night and day.
Yeah, except I said it sounds like a fan rule, not is. Even then, I doubt Geno would be that bonus fighter.
 
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There's also the idea Nintendo would hand out a Smash character of all things for free, and, uh...

This is the company that locked fast travel in Skyward Sword behind an upcoming amiibo.

Yeah. :191:
I mean, to be fair, we got :ultpiranha: for free...... for a limited time but free nonetheless.

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I don’t know? I’m not Mrs. Nintendo.
I think the logic of "Just because they haven't, doesn't mean they can't!" really needs to end, tbh.

At the end of the day, Smash is a lot of business negotiations behind closed doors.


If they're a free bonus, why would they be?

If they're a paid bonus.... then that basically goes against Sakurai's own M.O. when it comes to 3rd parties. Sakurai loves rolling out the red carpet for them, hell, like Potato mentioned, SONIC got a trailer for Smash 4 despite him being a veteran, he was basically put head and shoulders above the regular reveals.


Just having a standalone character that doesn't bring music or a stage would honestly be worse than how FF7 was handled in Smash 4 tbh.
 

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At least just as much, Square fully owns all rights to the Mario RPG exclusive characters and the soundtrack is a whole new level of legal mumbo jumbo.
Why so?

Though on the off chance he was the bonus fighter, I can imagine him coming with a track like the Mii costumes Sans and Cuphead.

What have I gotten myself into?
 

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Why so?

Though on the off chance he was the bonus fighter, I can imagine him coming with a track like the Mii costumes Sans and Cuphead.

What have I gotten myself into?
Japan copyright law is much weirder and much stricter and if Sephiroth's reveal means anything, soundtrack rights are literally all over the world and legal crap and stuff and I'm not a lawyer nor becoming one I don't know
 
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