The Smash 3C Project - PM alts, recolors, and more!

[ledgerewskie]

@ ledgerewskie I missed seeing your build earlier but now I must tell you that I love you and all that you represent.

EDIT: If I or someone else were to request more stages to add that fit the quality and selection of current stages (provided it's not excessive), would you put more in? My experiences in trying to work with the ASL and cosmetics have not been pleasant.

EDIT 2: Won't read my SD, even after formatting and trying the new .gct (on hackless). I never have this problem.

Oh I run it on homebrew. Just use the boot.elf and apps folder from the official PM download and it should work just fine.

About the stages, though, there aren't a whole lot of other stages that I can think of that add something unique and match one of the tracklists. I've been making builds for about two and a half years and I used to add a lot more whacky costumes and stages but I found they detracted from the overall feel. There are a couple that I'd still like, though (namely Lineland Road, because Paper Mario needs love), and eventually I'll squeeze it in. Anyway, the updated ASL tool works very well, just make sure you add an entry to both stages and modules in the tool, and it's probably best to stick to L, Z, and Y for button combos as the other buttons all do something already. The .rel tool at http://lakora.us/ will also be necessary to get it working right.

 

[PseudoTypical]

Oh I run it on homebrew. Just use the boot.elf and apps folder from the official PM download and it should work just fine.

About the stages, though, there aren't a whole lot of other stages that I can think of that add something unique and match one of the tracklists. I've been making builds for about two and a half years and I used to add a lot more whacky costumes and stages but I found they detracted from the overall feel. There are a couple that I'd still like, though (namely Lineland Road, because Paper Mario needs love), and eventually I'll squeeze it in. Anyway, the updated ASL tool works very well, just make sure you add an entry to both stages and modules in the tool, and it's probably best to stick to L, Z, and Y for button combos as the other buttons all do something already. The .rel tool at http://lakora.us/ will also be necessary to get it working right.

I is dum. Thanks, I didn't consider that at all for some reason.

Alright. How do you recommend creating those smaller previews on the SSS for alt stages? Yours are really nice and I'd like to emulate them going forward.

 

[ledgerewskie]

I is dum. Thanks, I didn't consider that at all for some reason.

Alright. How do you recommend creating those smaller previews on the SSS for alt stages? Yours are really nice and I'd like to emulate them going forward.

Here, this might help. I have an xcf project with some of these images and it's how I set up the previews.
http://imgur.com/a/kw811

 

[PseudoTypical]

Thanks! I'll probably have some trouble getting previews, but it should be pretty easy after that using these.

EDIT: One more question: How do you add .rel's to alt stages using Lakora? Is doing the _z or whatever to the name sufficient? What if the stage fits naturally over its location? (ex: N64 FD alt over FD)

 

[ledgerewskie]

Thanks! I'll probably have some trouble getting previews, but it should be pretty easy after that using these.

EDIT: One more question: How do you add .rel's to alt stages using Lakora? Is doing the _z or whatever to the name sufficient? What if the stage fits naturally over its location? (ex: N64 FD alt over FD)

I'll give an example. I have Jungle Japes as an alternate stage for Kongo Jungle 64. Since Kongo Jungle 64 is over 75m, I go here http://www.lakora.us/rel/ and choose Jungle Japes as the base to replace 75m. I suggest using the suffix _z for your first alt, _y for your second and _x if you have a third. You'll have to tell ASL what letter is for what, though. This is getting way off topic though so maybe you should PM me or go to one of the ASL threads if you need more help.

 

[ProjectBrawl7]

I think ill work on N64 falcon soon, but im almost done with sonic. Just need to make recolors, and renders, then he'll be finished.

 

[Juken]

I think ill work on N64 falcon soon, but im almost done with sonic. Just need to make recolors, and renders, then he'll be finished.

If you're looking into other Falcon skins, another good one to consider could be the Blood Falcon mod that actually makes Falcon's red costume that he's had for all 4 games into Blood Falcon's costume (different helmet emblem, angrier eyes, and belt with no gun). It was removed from the vault, but I still have the file for it.
http://puu.sh/jK83u/e80796a002.pcs

It's pretty cool since that costume's based off of him, I've used it in my build ever since 3.02.

 

[ProjectBrawl7]

If you're looking into other Falcon skins, another good one to consider could be the Blood Falcon mod that actually makes Falcon's red costume that he's had for all 4 games into Blood Falcon's costume (different helmet emblem, angrier eyes, and belt with no gun). It was removed from the vault, but I still have the file for it.
http://puu.sh/jK83u/e80796a002.pcs

It's pretty cool since that costume's based off of him, I've used it in my build ever since 3.02.

I remember that... It was one of my favorites, i'll look into it, thanks!
Also, sawnik recolors: http://imgur.com/a/Jxwvw

 

[Cynapse]

Also, sawnik recolors: http://imgur.com/a/Jxwvw

STOP HATING ON SONIC!

I will likely end up Frankensteining them all to create the optimal dark blue and red shoes.

 

[PsychoGhost]

The Boshi link is broken on Brawl Vault, does anyone have a mirror?

 

[Zarx1554]

So many sonic characters, when did smashboards become deviant art?

 

[ProjectBrawl7]

So many sonic characters, when did smashboards become deviant art?

Since now hue

 

[NinfanNanz]

Ledger, Found a couple things with your build.
-Olimar's black and yellow BP is default Brawl
-Even though Bowser has 10 CSPs in the character char_bust_tex_lz77, I only can get 7 in-game
- The CSS grid icon is Smash 3 Marth, not Smash 3C brawl Marth.
Also, I am getting a lot of weird things with Zelda
So if there are 2 OOT Zelda's on the field everything works fine.

However, if one chooses Sheik, Zelda becomes all glossy

If Marth is chosen, she loses the shine one the dark red and gloves, but not on the bottom part of the dress,

And if pit is chosen, she just becomes lighter. I have no idea why all of these occur though.


I think the first two are caused by spec maps on the other characters although this is just speculation. but the last one is just weird.
Each of these happen with multiple characters.

Also, Layell you sly dog on that preview! I could have sworn that wasn't there before.

 

[Juken]

Have you tested if that happens with normal Smash 3C Zelda outside of his build?

 

[NinfanNanz]

I have not. Lemme do that real quick. Lemme see if it occurs with the other Smash 3 skins.

EDIT: it does occur in default PM.

 

[ledgerewskie]

Ledger, Found a couple things with your build.
-Olimar's black and yellow BP is default Brawl
-Even though Bowser has 10 CSPs in the character char_bust_tex_lz77, I only can get 7 in-game
- The CSS grid icon is Smash 3 Marth, not Smash 3C brawl Marth.
Also, I am getting a lot of weird things with Zelda
So if there are 2 OOT Zelda's on the field everything works fine.

However, if one chooses Sheik, Zelda becomes all glossy
View attachment 69660
If Marth is chosen, she loses the shine one the dark red and gloves, but not on the bottom part of the dress,
View attachment 69661
And if pit is chosen, she just becomes lighter. I have no idea why all of these occur though.
View attachment 69662

I think the first two are caused by spec maps on the other characters although this is just speculation. but the last one is just weird.
Each of these happen with multiple characters.

Also, Layell you sly dog on that preview! I could have sworn that wasn't there before.

It was just a snapshot of a personal build so mistakes are expected. It was really intended to help you start on your own build anyway. Thanks for the Zelda problems, though. I'll look into it later.

 

[NinfanNanz]

Ahh, well the build things were for your knowledge if they were unintended so you don't have to go and find them on your own. Anyway, thanks for sharing though. and anytime on reporting bugs. Thank you for creating these wonderful models and fixing them when they need to be.

 

[NinfanNanz]

What happened to Holy War Marth? ;c

 

[ledgerewskie]

What happened to Holy War Marth? ;c

I'm not sure how it was broken, but I fixed the link now.

 

[Wing Zero]

What happened to Holy War Marth? ;c

he was properly disposed of to make room for lodestar marth

 

[smashbro29]

I looked over all of these and I really only have one critique.

"Melee Wolf" doesn't fit in with Melee Fox and Falco. The outfit and metal legs are fine but his head is still very command/assault esque. I have this issue with the pirate one too.

 

[ProjectBrawl7]

I looked over all of these and I really only have one critique.

"Melee Wolf" doesn't fit in with Melee Fox and Falco. The outfit and metal legs are fine but his head is still very command/assault esque. I have this issue with the pirate one too.

The creator of the original hack didnt import foxes head over melee wolf because that wouldnt look so melee i guess. And i dont think i can do the Sonic Boom outfit for brawl sonic...If i cant do it, then ill do Sonic wearing the SOAP shoes.

 

[Cynapse]

The creator of the original hack didn't import Fox's head over Melee Wolf because that wouldn't look so melee I guess. And I don't think I can do the Sonic Boom outfit for Brawl Sonic...if I can't do it, then I'll do Sonic wearing the SOAP shoes.

sanic bum can die, but that shade of blue is just right the color...to go with squeaky, soapy shoes.

 

[ProjectBrawl7]

squeaky, soapy shoes.

10/10

 

[TEMVSL]

Hi there

 

[TEMVSL]

Spoiler

I know this looks too white, i will fix that later

 

[SmashJC]

Spoiler

Something's different...
@ Cynapse i like Sonic Boom

 

[SylveonGives]

Stuff I'm 96% finished with (just need to rimlight them):

I'm also working on C. Falcon's Mach Rider costume

 

[TEMVSL]

Stuff I'm 96% finished with (just need to rimlight them):

I need this

 

[Cahalan]

Stuff I'm 96% finished with (just need to rimlight them):

I'm also working on C. Falcon's Mach Rider costume

My main concern with Kirby is whether or not it can hat very well...

Edit: Wonder how vacation mario looks without the hat on...

 

[ProjectBrawl7]

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207870
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=209471
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=209472
These were requests. I will not work on Smash 3 Sonic requests anymore, its really slowing down my progress on Brawl Sonic.

 

[Cynapse]

I will not work on Smash 3 Sonic requests anymore, its really slowing down my progress on Brawl Sonic.

Yes, very good.

Interesting take on Dark Sonic.
Where is the Silver model from?

Shadow's Dropbox: orogonl da heghug DONUT STEEL

We're going to have a long chat, just you and me.

 

[SylveonGives]

 

[ProjectBrawl7]

Yes, very good.

Interesting take on Dark Sonic.
Where is the Silver model from?

Shadow's Dropbox: orogonl da heghug DONUT STEEL

We're going to have a long chat, just you and me.

Shadows dropbox must defend me
And the silver model is from Sonic Generations.

 

[Cynapse]

@ ProjectBrawl7 Silver is a bit bright IMO, and unfortunately uses the wrong shoe track in PM but that's the case with any model replacing their Silver skin.

 

[SylveonGives]

Sunshine Mario's almost done, might include all of Brawl/PM's recolors and if you want to request a recolor of him, message me on Brawl Vault or here

EDIT: I might abandon Quickdraw Kirby since he's been freezing my game, but if you'd like to see if he works for you here, let me know if it works: https://www.dropbox.com/s/epksmauqskhtjcf/FitKirbyXX.pac?dl=0

 

[PseudoTypical]

Sunshine Mario's almost done, might include all of Brawl/PM's recolors and if you want to request a recolor of him, message me on Brawl Vault or here

Maybe a Shadow Mario version (with the shirt)?

 

[Zarx1554]

just a little teaser. (This took 20 minutes to make)

Spoiler

 

[PseudoTypical]

just a little teaser. (This took 20 minutes to make)

Spoiler

Would you be able to add the belt and edit the helmet to look more like a hard hat? I feel that's really critical for it to look authentic.

 

[Zarx1554]

Would you be able to add the belt and edit the helmet to look more like a hard hat? I feel that's really critical for it to look authentic.

Sadly, I don't know how. I have never made my own vertex hack and have no idea where to start. Is there a guide for this?