On Soup/DH:
He just votes Vinyl and wants me to get on his wagon without much of a reason. I didn't really know what he was going for, but this is something to keep in mind with the rest of his actions. In fact, Soup: Why did you vote Vinyl and want me (and maybe others) to join the wagon?
Here it seemed like a quick reaction to Badwolf's response to me when I said I saw him viewing and not post yet. What soup doesn't realize that it seems Badwolf has GENERALLY been playing safe, and not just per his alignment. Remember Gheb's game? I told him to be more serious because he was starting to be a hindrance to his alignment (Scum or Town), and he said he would take the advice to heart. So I didn't really find his response as scummy, it made sense. I felt Soup's jump on Badwolf was opportunistic.
Wow that wasn't the reaction I wasn't expecting at all honestly.
There's nothing really to post about Badwolf, I was just prodding you to see what reaction I could get and hopefully start discussion, I tried the same with Vinyl. as he's more telling with his reactions to things but you kept your head cool for this one.
Here, Soup shows that Badwolf showed a reaction he didn't expect. Yet, how did that reflect on his reads? He says he was prodding to get discussion up (which did) but I don't feel like that was the reason he was doing so. He says Badwolf kept his head cool for that, so that must mean it wasn't scum motivated or what? Soup, can you explain your thought process here? Was this a scum reaction or town reaction?
Macman is welcome on the brocrew. broteam. brogang. Whatever.
I really wish you didn't have to take an hour to respond Badwolf but I'll wait.
I didn't like that Soup was already accepting Mac into the brocrew without much content from him or Soup attempting to read him. This felt like buddy connection here, at first.
I was surprised that you had such surface reads regardless of treating this as RVS, why are some things more telling than others in your eyes? Macman only made one joking post about buddying me and then a vote on Ranmaru for some reason.
I don't see what the point of Soup critisizing Bad's reads for being surface level even though it was still RVS. I felt this was Soup trying to make a connection between Mac and Bad, even though Soup was fine with Mac already. Soup, can you explain why it was important to ask Badwolf about this? How did it help you find scum?
Vote: Vinyl
Dead serious here
Wait a sec...
Dark Horse votes Vinyl yet doesn't express why, yet says "Dead serious here"
I get the feeling he's still joking around.
Come to think of it, consider my vote on him in spirit
Aiight
I ask him, yet he cuts the question out from the quote and doesn't answer, yet does say he has a vote on Macman in spirit. I feel this may be scum motivated in re-reading. I felt at the time it was him agreeing to support me, yet he says that wasn't focused on my push on Mac at all. So, Dark Horse: What exactly did Macman do that set your alarms off besides my push on him?
DH's vote here seems like DH trying to get on macman's wagon since he said he'd support me in spirit, yet he hasn't given the reason why he did before, since Macman said that AFTER DH said he already was considering Mac. It doesn't line up. I feel this is a bit opportunistic.
I voted mac because I didn't like his interactions with badwolf, he had said that he thought badwolf is scum, yet the reads useless as he hadn't done any scumhunting. And now, after he's done joking, he still thinks badwolf's scum, though he says IDK.
I voted you because I disliked your origional interactions with badwolf; they reminded me of my noobscum interactions in celeb rehab. Though I wouldn't consider it telling enough to lynch off of right now, I did feel like pressuring you further, via the dead serious vote.
Bold + Underlined:
I don't see the point of him voting Vinyl because of how he himself acted in Celeb. Everyone acts and thinks differently so this seems like him trying to justify his vote on vinyl with a bad reason (him trying to apply his own actions to other people's thoughts+actions, no other way I can explain it), especially since he didn't consider it enough to lynch. Also consider DH's "Oh I was doing it to pressure" is on the same line's as Soup's early pressure as well, and consider DH voted Vinyl (right below the bad vote) on page 1 as well.
Playing mafia is fun.
Anyways, I asked the inactivity question because I've got way too many town-reads currently right now, I'm reading DH/Macman/Ranmaru as my main ones and leaning town on Vinyl. I still dislike Badwolf a ton but I believe that Vinyl/Badwolf aren't aligned and I'd like to get rid of one of them to solidify the other, I'm fairly confident in my reads on the formers I mentioned simply because they each have specific tells I look for.
Right now, I disagree with Ranmaru's push but his general anxiousness and willingness to play the game is townie, it's understandable to come to conclusion that meta isn't a tell here, but some players are just really simplistic about it, I don't see an inconsistency with RanmaruTown as usual. Macman has been addressed, and DH falls under the category of his willingness like Ranmaru and kind of Vinyl., these are all players I can read easily simply because of their consistencies as alignment.
I also don't like that Soup has a weak reason for having a town read on DH. DH also has soup as town yet doesn't give a reason at first, and once he does it is also weak.
166. It's an issue because of your... "wishy-washyness?" in posts such as 189.
...I was talking to vinyl
I honestly haven't been paying that much attention to ran's push on mac. Give me a sec...
I thought you have.

Please read my question above to you.
I have a scum read on DH and Soup from all this. Individual tells and connections. If DH flips scum I deff think Soup is scum with him. Badwolf is an option to look into afterwords, but I don't think so now. I mean I had a town read on him but his unvote on Mac was a bit weird, since it was inconsistent with his reads. Yet, I can see it as Mac just seeming town to him (since he started caring) so that could have been why Baddy unvoted. I like Summoner's initiative here.
Vote: Dark Horse
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