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The shino stall

ADHD

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Okay I had a thread a while back on this, but I was doing it wrong. I was doing the first flash and the return vanish both on the ledge, but I found a way to skip the return vanish and just go right into the first vanish. So what is happening is you are dropping down from the ledge, and quickly doing the first flash then immediately grabbing.

Directions: YOU MUST HAVE YOUR JUMP TAP OFF!!!!

While holding the edge, drop down and immediately Up B. After the Up B, you hold the direction of the ledge. You will grab 100% of the time and not do the shino stall if you keep doing the same length. You must keep experimenting lengths, trust me it is frustrating but you'll get it eventually.

This is fun as hell, a great and fast way to deal 15% damage, yay! Also a mind game, if you get exploded and were suddenly caught for no reason, what would you do? I sure as hell wouldn't know!

Important for sheiks who use Up B out of a sheild (you cannot do a direct Up B out of a sheild while holding the sheild button with jump tap on), you have to release the sheild and amazingly fast Up B.

Alright now for the shino stall's extremely weird properties just only symmetrical tourney play levels:

The left ledge and the right are different (don't blame me, blame the freakin idiot who decided to make the ledges magnetic without checking.)

Pros for left ledge: Faster, able to avoid returning vanish lag.
Cons: Very difficult to perform consistently, CANNOT KO!

Pros for right ledge: The returning vanish actually is good because it pushes your opponent back, but does not deal damage, medium-ish difficulty to perform consistently, CAN KO!
Cons: A tad slower, has return vanish animation.


Overal, since this is very flashy and takes alot of skill, I'm going to use it lol. Of course I don't think anyone will have the patience to get it consistently seeing as it can be edge hogged sometimes, but if one person gets it on the right side without the return vanish somehow you are AMAZING.

This is Muscle Memory, meaning practice.
 

ADHD

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I think I have an idea on what you are saying, but I'll need a vid.
Sure I want to go over my friends today and record it over his house. Oh btw, I found out the right ledge shino stall in fact DOES KO, the left cannot.
 

ADHD

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This is old, I dismissed it as useless but I can show you in a wifi match if ud like 3 swords
 

jalued

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i find on most edges if you tilt forward on the stick, you can do the up b and then land on the edge, so you don't have to worry about being edge hogged afterwards... its also a gd move if you want to replenish you invinsability period on edge. just an observation i made, that u may or may not know
 

ADHD

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i find on most edges if you tilt forward on the stick, you can do the up b and then land on the edge, so you don't have to worry about being edge hogged afterwards... its also a gd move if you want to replenish you invinsability period on edge. just an observation i made, that u may or may not know
You can do this with the teleport? Or are you talking about just dropping down and using up b, bc if you want invinicibility frames thats much better than the shino stall
 

Micahc

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I was not aware of Shino being in the game.
Yunas audaciously large picture
This also not new. It was this way in Melee.
Except it's impossible to do in Brawl, she can't sweetspot from above, unless what Chromes telling us is true.
 

imdavid

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you can sweet spot diagonally above the ledge.. are you sure you cant SS from above it :] are you trying to trick me into hours of trying only to find out you were telling me the truth hehe
 

ADHD

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you can sweet spot diagonally above the ledge.. are you sure you cant SS from above it :] are you trying to trick me into hours of trying only to find out you were telling me the truth hehe
ZOMG can you go on today?
 

Micahc

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you can sweet spot diagonally above the ledge.. are you sure you cant SS from above it :] are you trying to trick me into hours of trying only to find out you were telling me the truth hehe
The only way to sweetspot from above is if your Vanish ends right where the ledge is. If your to close then pass right by. In Melee you could sweetspot from anywhere.
 

ADHD

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The only way to sweetspot from above is if your Vanish ends right where the ledge is. If your to close then pass right by. In Melee you could sweetspot from anywhere.
Yeah, its got to be exact and if you get it consistent its somewhat fast in brawl.
 

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I made a thread about the amazing SS from above vanish. Granted... kind of a joke thread... but that is irrelevant!

As for this... i fail at this.
 
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