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The Sassy Princess of Sarasaland: Daisy Discussion

Tortilla Noggin

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Looks like that direct was actually Animal Crossing Mobile.
Yeah, I just saw! It should be interesting, at least.

And I'm thinking it's getting a limited release in Japan first.
Why so? The Direct itself is global, so why would the game be restricted in such a fashion? I mean, they didn't do that with Miitomo, Fire Emblem Warriors, or Super Mario Run, or any of the updates to them, did they? :confused: (I can only remember temporary iOS exclusivity for Super Mario Run.)
 

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I big problem I see with Daisy's inclusion is that she would most likely be a representation of Mario spin-off games, (mario kart, party, sports etc) but I think sakurai would include Waluigi to fit that role before daisy. Then again Sakurai is a mad man and he does what he wants. And that's assuming he has anything to do with smash switch.
 

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I big problem I see with Daisy's inclusion is that she would most likely be a representation of Mario spin-off games, (mario kart, party, sports etc) but I think sakurai would include Waluigi to fit that role before daisy.
There's Super Mario Land and Super Mario Run, too, though. ;)

Then again Sakurai is a mad man and he does what he wants. And that's assuming he has anything to do with smash switch.
The evidence* we have doesn't immediately or obviously suggest that he does, nor does his track-record of always working on other projects in-between the Smash titles that Nintendo has contracted him to collaborate with other studios on (the only exception was when he was still working at HAL Laboratory, and went straight from Smash 64 to Melee).

*At the end of 2016, Sakurai teased his next project by revealing that he had purchased a mech model-kit in order to use its realistic rifle weapon as a reference. Now, obviously, this doesn't tell us too much, or give us even a small picture, let alone a complete one, but purchasing an item entirely for the purpose of studying realistic firearms doesn't appear to immediately scream "SUPER SMAAAAASH BROTHERS!" to me. :laugh:
 
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but purchasing an item entirely for the purpose of studying realistic firearms doesn't appear to immediately scream "SUPER SMAAAAASH BROTHERS!" to me. :laugh:
A smash artstyle in the form of sonic 06, where everyone has perfect human proportions like real people cosplaying as nintendo characters, is clearly in the works.
 

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Today I learned, in an official manga, Daisy got a full view of Mario's........

warp pipe....
 

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Started the pre load.

So... which era of Mario spinoff titles is your favorite:

N64: Mario Party 1-3, mario Tennis, mario golf, Mario Kart 64, Paper Mario, Yoshi Story
GameCube: Mario Parties 4-7, Mario power tennis, Mario superstar baseball, Mario strikers, Mario golf toadstool tour, Mario Kart double dash, Paper Mario thousand year door, Luigi’s Mansion, Wario World, Wario Ware
Wii: Mario parties 8-9, Mario strikers charged, Mario superstar sluggers, Mario Sports Mix, Mario Kart Wii, Super Paper Mario, Wario Ware smooth moves, Wario Land: Shake it
Wii U: Mario Party 10, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Mario Kart 8, game and Wario, yoshi’s Wooly world

I’m leaning pretty heavy on GameCube.. but I really like a lot of the Wii games too.
 

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GameCube but to be fair I wasn't really around for the N64 one.

I do believe the GC Mario Parties are very underrated tho.
 

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It's well worth noting that standards in Japan for such media are very different to how they are in many Western countries, though. There's a lot of examples relating to other famous franchises, too.
I know, like a big example is One Piece being a manga for elementary kids and we all know how "family friendly" they are.

Though Mario is no stranger to adult jokes.

*cough* *cough* The Ball/Crotch Portion of the Mario Zone in Super Mario Land 2 *cough*
 

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Started the pre load.

So... which era of Mario spinoff titles is your favorite:

N64: Mario Party 1-3, mario Tennis, mario golf, Mario Kart 64, Paper Mario, Yoshi Story
GameCube: Mario Parties 4-7, Mario power tennis, Mario superstar baseball, Mario strikers, Mario golf toadstool tour, Mario Kart double dash, Paper Mario thousand year door, Luigi’s Mansion, Wario World, Wario Ware
Wii: Mario parties 8-9, Mario strikers charged, Mario superstar sluggers, Mario Sports Mix, Mario Kart Wii, Super Paper Mario, Wario Ware smooth moves, Wario Land: Shake it
Wii U: Mario Party 10, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Mario Kart 8, game and Wario, yoshi’s Wooly world

I’m leaning pretty heavy on GameCube.. but I really like a lot of the Wii games too.
For me the good stuff comes froms the N64/Wii era.
 

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I know I was definitely pushing it with my over-enthusiasm and oh-so-sure hope that Daisy would be DLC in Smash 4, but I honestly think Waluigi and Daisy will be the two new Mario reps for Smash 5.
 
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I know, like a big example is One Piece being a manga for elementary kids and we all know how "family friendly" they are.

Though Mario is no stranger to adult jokes.

*cough* *cough* The Ball/Crotch Portion of the Mario Zone in Super Mario Land 2 *cough*
Azalea from Mario Tennis has a bio which reads, "I used to do track and practice was pretty tough. But thanks to that, I got a tough lower body. Did that sound vulgar?" lol! the last part was unnecessary, Nintendo.

Also there are many jokes about Peach's items/weapons coming from her dress.
In Color Splash on MarioWiki - " when asked where she keeps the parasol, Peach claims that it is none of the viewer's business."
Her SSB4 trophy - "A frying pan? Umbrella? TOAD?! Where does she keep it all?"
"She's hiding all sorts of stuff under that dress: a frying pan, a tennis racket, a golf club...even a Toad!"
I get that it's not blatantly saying it comes from her private areas, but they were fully aware of what they were writing, lol.
 
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Azalea from Mario Tennis has a bio which reads, "I used to do track and practice was pretty tough. But thanks to that, I got a tough lower body. Did that sound vulgar?" lol! the last part was unnecessary, Nintendo.

Also there are many jokes about Peach's items/weapons coming from her dress.
In Color Splash on MarioWiki - " when asked where she keeps the parasol, Peach claims that it is none of the viewer's business."
Her SSB4 trophy - "A frying pan? Umbrella? TOAD?! Where does she keep it all?"
"She's hiding all sorts of stuff under that dress: a frying pan, a tennis racket, a golf club...even a Toad!"
I get that it's not blatantly saying it comes from her private areas, but they were fully aware of what they were writing, lol.
No matter why she got so much Rule 34

But that Azalea fact was something. It's as if they wanted to give us dirty thoughts.
 

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Also there are many jokes about Peach's items/weapons coming from her dress.
In Color Splash on MarioWiki - " when asked where she keeps the parasol, Peach claims that it is none of the viewer's business."
Her SSB4 trophy - "A frying pan? Umbrella? TOAD?! Where does she keep it all?"
"She's hiding all sorts of stuff under that dress: a frying pan, a tennis racket, a golf club...even a Toad!"
I get that it's not blatantly saying it comes from her private areas, but they were fully aware of what they were writing, lol.
God, those jokes got stale real fast. Half the characters on the roster pull all sorts of weapons straight out of their ass, but the one character on the roster with a dress that has enough ruffles to actually hold all these items is subject to a thousand pocket universe vagina jokes.
 

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God, those jokes got stale real fast. Half the characters on the roster pull all sorts of weapons straight out of their ***, but the one character on the roster with a dress that has enough ruffles to actually hold all these items is subject to a thousand pocket universe vagina jokes.
That's the internet for you I guess.
Azalea from Mario Tennis has a bio which reads, "I used to do track and practice was pretty tough. But thanks to that, I got a tough lower body. Did that sound vulgar?" lol! the last part was unnecessary, Nintendo.

Also there are many jokes about Peach's items/weapons coming from her dress.
In Color Splash on MarioWiki - " when asked where she keeps the parasol, Peach claims that it is none of the viewer's business."
Her SSB4 trophy - "A frying pan? Umbrella? TOAD?! Where does she keep it all?"
"She's hiding all sorts of stuff under that dress: a frying pan, a tennis racket, a golf club...even a Toad!"
I get that it's not blatantly saying it comes from her private areas, but they were fully aware of what they were writing, lol.
This is all new info for me..........
 

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Well, there will be one less active supporter here for a while.

It's best not to say what happened since honestly it's ****ing terrible.

But hey, at least we Daisy fans have each other. Who needs her?
 

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With Inktober over and Super Mario Odyssey taking up too much time in my test week if I'd buy it and FEHeroes making me anxious if I ever get Henry I need some distraction, so here's a small analysis on General Flowers in the Mario series.

With Princess Daisy being commonly referred to as the "Flower Princess", it's interesting to determine what creative liberties could be taken to improve the quality of Daisy's playstyle.
Now, there are a few flower-related objects in the Mario series that could add to both Daisy's image as "Flower Princess" and her commonly agreed playstyle as mobility-based trickster/attacker.

Note that I'm not talking about flower-powerups like the Fire Flower or the Cloud Flower, as those are not flower related in use and are generally too extensive in use to properly fit in a moveset.

I'm not talking about the flower powers that Daisy uses herself either, as those are not interesting for this specific discussion.

I'm talking about flower-themed elements in Mario games such as Mario Kart, but also the 3D Mario games, including Super Mario Odyssey (this analysis is spoiler-free, every element I want to include is shown in trailers and demos)

So, here they are. The flower elements in Mario games I'd like to mention in relation with Daisy's possible moveset.
I organise them in three categories:
-Floating
-Jumping
-I'll take "The rest" for 500, Pauline

Floating
Flower Glider

Of course, this one is not much of a stretch compared to the following ideas, as it's useable by Daisy already in Mario Kart.
However, one can easily turn the move into more than just your average Up B when used in conjunction with the rest of the glider mechanics, such as Boost Rings or tie-ing Super Mario Run's double jump and catapult jump to Mario Kart's Tricks.

Floaty Fluff
Super Mario Galaxy 2's new power up is called the Floaty Fluff and it's basically a flower glider as well.
However, this Floaty Fluff has the added advantage of having a bit more to it as with the press of a button, Mario flies up at the expense of falling faster.
One can press the button two times before the Flower completely disappears.
With this mechanic, Daisy can be even more of a mobility trickster, changing between slow and graceful floating and a sudden boost in speed.

Jumping
Flower Trampoline

There are quite a few flowers that acted as trampolines in the Mario series, but each of them have different mechanics.
There are trampolines that act more like platforms, disappearing after Daisy jumps off of them but in Mario Odyssey, there's a trampoline that propels Mario (or Daisy, if she'd use it in her moveset) quite high before Mario slowly comes down with a spin jump.

The rest
Rocket Flower (Pun not intended but definitely noted)

Also new in Super Mario Odyssey is a flower that acts a lot like the Turbo Nozzle from Super Mario Sunshine or the Dash Pepper from SMG2.
Similarily, it allows Mario to dash at tremendous speed.
In Daisy's moveset, it's a good way to let Daisy have a super speed like move, in order to get the Mario Kart feeling going on with all of its momentum based tricks

Fling Flower
This flower in Mario Galaxy acts like a catapult, being able to fling Mario in a certain direction.
In Smash, this move can bring a great way to change Daisy's momentum in order to make her mobility even more unpredictable when combined to the Rocket Flower's boosts and the slowing down floating of the Floaty Fluff, as the Fling Flower will be able to create momentum from what's basically standstill.
On top of that, it could act as a great way to make Daisy's hurtbox retreat before unleashing her own attack, like Captain Falcon's Forward Smash lunges him back in the charge-up

In general, I think Daisy could have amazing and unpredictable movement, based on Mario Kart's boost pads, flier ramps and the movement boosts after tricks and Super Mario Run's double jump and keep-on-running gameplay
 

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With Inktober over and Super Mario Odyssey taking up too much time in my test week if I'd buy it and FEHeroes making me anxious if I ever get Henry I need some distraction, so here's a small analysis on General Flowers in the Mario series.

With Princess Daisy being commonly referred to as the "Flower Princess", it's interesting to determine what creative liberties could be taken to improve the quality of Daisy's playstyle.
Now, there are a few flower-related objects in the Mario series that could add to both Daisy's image as "Flower Princess" and her commonly agreed playstyle as mobility-based trickster/attacker.

Note that I'm not talking about flower-powerups like the Fire Flower or the Cloud Flower, as those are not flower related in use and are generally too extensive in use to properly fit in a moveset.

I'm not talking about the flower powers that Daisy uses herself either, as those are not interesting for this specific discussion.

I'm talking about flower-themed elements in Mario games such as Mario Kart, but also the 3D Mario games, including Super Mario Odyssey (this analysis is spoiler-free, every element I want to include is shown in trailers and demos)

So, here they are. The flower elements in Mario games I'd like to mention in relation with Daisy's possible moveset.
I organise them in three categories:
-Floating
-Jumping
-I'll take "The rest" for 500, Pauline

Floating
Flower Glider

Of course, this one is not much of a stretch compared to the following ideas, as it's useable by Daisy already in Mario Kart.
However, one can easily turn the move into more than just your average Up B when used in conjunction with the rest of the glider mechanics, such as Boost Rings or tie-ing Super Mario Run's double jump and catapult jump to Mario Kart's Tricks.

Floaty Fluff
Super Mario Galaxy 2's new power up is called the Floaty Fluff and it's basically a flower glider as well.
However, this Floaty Fluff has the added advantage of having a bit more to it as with the press of a button, Mario flies up at the expense of falling faster.
One can press the button two times before the Flower completely disappears.
With this mechanic, Daisy can be even more of a mobility trickster, changing between slow and graceful floating and a sudden boost in speed.

Jumping
Flower Trampoline

There are quite a few flowers that acted as trampolines in the Mario series, but each of them have different mechanics.
There are trampolines that act more like platforms, disappearing after Daisy jumps off of them but in Mario Odyssey, there's a trampoline that propels Mario (or Daisy, if she'd use it in her moveset) quite high before Mario slowly comes down with a spin jump.

The rest
Rocket Flower (Pun not intended but definitely noted)

Also new in Super Mario Odyssey is a flower that acts a lot like the Turbo Nozzle from Super Mario Sunshine or the Dash Pepper from SMG2.
Similarily, it allows Mario to dash at tremendous speed.
In Daisy's moveset, it's a good way to let Daisy have a super speed like move, in order to get the Mario Kart feeling going on with all of its momentum based tricks

Fling Flower
This flower in Mario Galaxy acts like a catapult, being able to fling Mario in a certain direction.
In Smash, this move can bring a great way to change Daisy's momentum in order to make her mobility even more unpredictable when combined to the Rocket Flower's boosts and the slowing down floating of the Floaty Fluff, as the Fling Flower will be able to create momentum from what's basically standstill.
On top of that, it could act as a great way to make Daisy's hurtbox retreat before unleashing her own attack, like Captain Falcon's Forward Smash lunges him back in the charge-up

In general, I think Daisy could have amazing and unpredictable movement, based on Mario Kart's boost pads, flier ramps and the movement boosts after tricks and Super Mario Run's double jump and keep-on-running gameplay
Very excellent moveset WCF. I've been waiting on this moveset just to see what ideas you had.

Very good idea to incorporate the other plant and flower related elements in the series. Even me playing Odyssey had me say, "Hey, that actually looks like a good idea for a recovery."

It would definitely capitalize her role as a princess of flowers.
 
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I have an announcement to make.

After years and years of being here with you guys, I think it's time for me to go. It's been an honor showing some love for Daisy for a good 5ish years, but my work here is done. The more I stay here, the less of a reason I feel I need to be here. It's no one's fault, just personal stuff and my waning interest in this community.

That means this place is up for grabs. Whichever one is the most active or really passionate about Daisy can run this thread. Whether it be Tortilla Noggin Tortilla Noggin , smashkirby smashkirby , or even Ark of Silence101 Ark of Silence101 .

Take care and remember everything I've taught y'all. No more Hi I'm Daisy, but Bye I'm Daisy.
 

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I have an announcement to make.

After years and years of being here with you guys, I think it's time for me to go. It's been an honor showing some love for Daisy for a good 5ish years, but my work here is done. The more I stay here, the less of a reason I feel I need to be here. It's no one's fault, just personal stuff and my waning interest in this community.

That means this place is up for grabs. Whichever one is the most active or really passionate about Daisy can run this thread. Whether it be Tortilla Noggin Tortilla Noggin , smashkirby smashkirby , or even Ark of Silence101 Ark of Silence101 .

Take care and remember everything I've taught y'all. No more Hi I'm Daisy, but Bye I'm Daisy.
Wow, this is really sudden. :(

I'm afraid I'll have to decline your very kind offer, as I wouldn't be any good at running the thread - I've already got two very dead support-threads to my name that nobody's been particularly interested in, after all! :laugh: However, I just wanted to say that I'm going to miss you.

Take care of yourself. You know where we all are if you ever want to say "Hi I'm Daisy!" again. ;)
 

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I have an announcement to make.

After years and years of being here with you guys, I think it's time for me to go. It's been an honor showing some love for Daisy for a good 5ish years, but my work here is done. The more I stay here, the less of a reason I feel I need to be here. It's no one's fault, just personal stuff and my waning interest in this community.

That means this place is up for grabs. Whichever one is the most active or really passionate about Daisy can run this thread. Whether it be Tortilla Noggin Tortilla Noggin , smashkirby smashkirby , or even Ark of Silence101 Ark of Silence101 .

Take care and remember everything I've taught y'all. No more Hi I'm Daisy, but Bye I'm Daisy.
I ain't a detective but this is too sudden to be a good decision and I won't accept it if you leave because you know we care about you.
You can't kid me, you unfortunately are the best at kidding yourself.
I've read the NintenZone post and I see that it's about more than growing tired of a community.
It's a fear that the community is tired of you.
Look. There might be onehundred people on this site that are more important to speculation or more known or have some kind of role on this site.
I don't care about those people. I care about the friend that I not only stuck with through multiple Daisy threads, be it socials or official speculation threads, but also through amnesias and the brink of the unmentionable.
I didn't make the jump to Discord for more gaming, for a place to hang out with a hundred or so people.
I made the jump because I care about the people there in more ways than as a good speculator and want know they're okay.

This is not just SmashBoards and this is not just the Daisy thread.
It's a home of a community with people that are different from me, from eachother in every sense of the world but is still a family.

I would've respected your decision if it was really just you going on here less and less and eventually deciding to leave but I cannot accept that motive with whatever the heck is going on.

Also. This is not something for PMs now.
This is for our community that too has sticked with you when you've posted your truest moments in this place.
It's our turn to return the favor.
 

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I have an announcement to make.

After years and years of being here with you guys, I think it's time for me to go. It's been an honor showing some love for Daisy for a good 5ish years, but my work here is done. The more I stay here, the less of a reason I feel I need to be here. It's no one's fault, just personal stuff and my waning interest in this community.

That means this place is up for grabs. Whichever one is the most active or really passionate about Daisy can run this thread. Whether it be Tortilla Noggin Tortilla Noggin , smashkirby smashkirby , or even Ark of Silence101 Ark of Silence101 .

Take care and remember everything I've taught y'all. No more Hi I'm Daisy, but Bye I'm Daisy.
Yeah, I'm sorry, bud. Forgive me for saying so, but something about this just doesn't add up to me... I mean, I'll take over if you want, but for real, this seems a little sudden, don't you think?
 

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Wait, what?

What's happening here? I'm plan confused.
 

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Yeah, I am too... I only follow the character-support sections, so I'm unaware of the recent stuff from the NinenZone social that WeirdChillFever WeirdChillFever mentioned.

Is everything alright?
Yeah, very sudden. I'll go ask around for answers.

Or better yet, I'll approach him immediately.
 

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I have an announcement to make.

After years and years of being here with you guys, I think it's time for me to go. It's been an honor showing some love for Daisy for a good 5ish years, but my work here is done. The more I stay here, the less of a reason I feel I need to be here. It's no one's fault, just personal stuff and my waning interest in this community.

That means this place is up for grabs. Whichever one is the most active or really passionate about Daisy can run this thread. Whether it be Tortilla Noggin Tortilla Noggin , smashkirby smashkirby , or even Ark of Silence101 Ark of Silence101 .

Take care and remember everything I've taught y'all. No more Hi I'm Daisy, but Bye I'm Daisy.
Then, good bye friend, may you have good luck in life and all that comes. Thanks for everything.
 

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Because certain someone is so persuasive and I realize the many good things I've done here, it would be stupid to just leave. Look at these replies, I realize how unfair it would be to throw this burden onto anyone else than just leave (as if last night's talk in Nintenzone didn't open my eyes). So no, I'm not going anywhere and I will still stay top dog of this thread. Thanks for believing in me.
 

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Because certain someone is so persuasive and I realize the many good things I've done here, it would be stupid to just leave. Look at these replies, I realize how unfair it would be to throw this burden onto anyone else than just leave (as if last night's talk in Nintenzone didn't open my eyes). So no, I'm not going anywhere and I will still stay top dog of this thread. Thanks for believing in me.
No worries, but remember you're the top dog of your time, life and emotions as well.
I'm gonna study for a test now, but I remembered that I never posted a Super Mario Run analysis or an in-depth look in my new mobility-based playstyle.
So expect that down the line.
 
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No worries, but remember you're the top dog of your time, life and emotions as well :p

I'm gonna study for a test now, but I remembered that I never posted a Super Mario Run analysis or an in-depth look in my new mobility-based playstyle.
So expect that down the line.
Cool. Then go crush that test and we can have that analysis whenever you're ready.

Yeah, I'll remember that.
 

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Because certain someone is so persuasive and I realize the many good things I've done here, it would be stupid to just leave. Look at these replies, I realize how unfair it would be to throw this burden onto anyone else than just leave (as if last night's talk in Nintenzone didn't open my eyes). So no, I'm not going anywhere and I will still stay top dog of this thread. Thanks for believing in me.
Someone else I knew here left not too long ago due a loss of interest, so the thought of someone else going wasn't a particularly nice one. I'm really glad that you're not leaving.
 

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Because certain someone is so persuasive and I realize the many good things I've done here, it would be stupid to just leave. Look at these replies, I realize how unfair it would be to throw this burden onto anyone else than just leave (as if last night's talk in Nintenzone didn't open my eyes). So no, I'm not going anywhere and I will still stay top dog of this thread. Thanks for believing in me.
That's the spirit! I know it must be hard when certain people pressure you(I used to get that a lot back at highschool), but there will be always be people who will be with you, so don't feel discouraged.
 

Freduardo

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So am I the only one now really itching to have Daisy and her double jump in a 3D Mario game due to Mario run, odyssey and 3D world?

Even if I can just possess her in dlc for some bonus moons.
 
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StarCrystal20

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A few days back, someone had released a pack of Daisy mods for Peach!

https://gamebanana.com/skins/158317

I especially love the golf dress/sports outfit variation. This is my ideal Daisy outfit if she was to get in Smash Switch (either sports skirt or shorts).


I'm not a fan of the lipstick, however. Too Peachy, and less Super Mario's relaxing life Line Stickers. lol


So am I the only one now really itching to have Daisy and her double jump in a 3D Mario game due to Mario run, odyssey and 3D world?

Even if I can just possess her in dlc for some bonus moons.
I would love for her to appear in another important game, although I personally don't see another 3D Mario game happening too soon. A double jump would be a nice addition, I agree!

What I want to see her in is a Paper Mario game or an RPG. Nonplayable or playable. Either one. lol
 
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Ark of Silence101

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So am I the only one now really itching to have Daisy and her double jump in a 3D Mario game due to Mario run, odyssey and 3D world?

Even if I can just possess her in dlc for some bonus moons.
I would like it too, but I am not keeping my hopes up as always.
 
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