The Sassy Princess of Sarasaland: Daisy Discussion

[Bowserlick]

Subcon is a dream world. Surrealism is OK and I think Daisy fits into the mold of an overshadowed misfit rogue.

 

[Kirbeh]

Is Nabbit a guy or a species?

Because he'd be an excellent wario equivalent to Toad.

That said my wario equivalents to Peach are always going to be either Mona or Captain Syrup.

Nabbit is an individual, not a species. He's just a weird purple rabbit thief it seems.

As for Peach equivalents for Wario, Syrup has always been his rival, though they did cooperate a bit in Shake It! and she does flirt with him a bit. iirc correctly Mona does have a crush on Wario but that hasn't really gone anywhere as far as I know.

 

[Bowserlick]

Also, if Subcon becomes a warped dream world influenced by the actions of Mario, Luigi, Peach and Toad then different levels can have aspects of those characters in their design.

Mouser can have a mushroom hat, Tryclyde could be a snake with three Peach heads and Hot Head can be a green flame with Luigi's face.

I think Wario, Waluigi and Daisy are all overshadowed by the other similar characters.

* Birdo can be replaced with Yoshi... or Boshi? Or does Square own him?

 

[Victory.IsMyDestinySSB4]

Wario isn't necessarily a "bad guy". Neither are Espio, Proto-man, or Meta Knight. They just have unique motivations, which may or may not be the "good guy" thing to do. Daisy may have unique motivations, but I don't think it lines up very well with Wario's greed or Waluigi's stardom.

 

[Kirbeh]

Also, if Subcon becomes a warped dream world influenced by the actions of Mario, Luigi, Peach and Toad then different levels can have aspects of those characters in their design.

Mouser can have a mushroom hat, Tryclyde could be a snake with three Peach heads and Hot Head can be a green flame with Luigi's face.

I think Wario, Waluigi and Daisy are all overshadowed by the other similar characters.

* Birdo can be replaced with Yoshi... or Boshi? Or does Square own him?

I'm pretty sure all the original characters in SMRPG are still owned by Square Enix, even Boshi despite being a member of the Yoshi species. Bit of an odd situation there, but that seems to be the case with SMRPG in general.

Wario isn't necessarily a "bad guy". Neither are Espio, Proto-man, or Meta Knight. They just have unique motivations, which may or may not be the "good guy" thing to do. Daisy may have unique motivations, but I don't think it lines up very well with Wario's greed or Waluigi's stardom.

Did Espio have a particular "bad guy" role on his own at some point?

Aside from that, I pretty much agree with this. If Daisy teamed up with them, I think it'd be out of a desire to stop the villain, and she'd reluctantly put up with them in order to work together.

 

[FunAtParties]

I'm pretty sure all the original characters in SMRPG are still owned by Square Enix, even Boshi despite being a member of the Yoshi species. Bit of an odd situation there, but that seems to be the case with SMRPG in general.

Did Espio have a particular "bad guy" role on his own at some point?

I'm pretty sure Espio was only ever an anti-hero at best (a shoehorned, poorly written one at that). Don't ever remember him being a villain, but I may be misremembering Heroes.

 

[Kirbeh]

I'm pretty sure Espio was only ever an anti-hero at best (a shoehorned, poorly written one at that). Don't ever remember him being a villain, but I may be misremembering Heroes.

I actually played Heroes a lot more than I should have when I was younger, so I can confirm that Team Chaotix could pretty much be classified as "good guys" in Heroes. They're more so neutral as their entire story revolves around doing work for a mystery client, and they just happen to fight against Eggman's robots and the other teams along the way.

They are pretty much good guys though as they run a detective agency to help people, and usually help out the main heroes like Sonic. They just don't do much due to not showing up very often.

 

[FunAtParties]

I actually played Heroes a lot more than I should have when I was younger, so I can confirm that Team Chaotix could pretty much be classified as "good guys" in Heroes. They're more so neutral as their entire story revolves around doing work for a mystery client, and they just happen to fight against Eggman's robots and the other teams along the way.

They are pretty much good guys though as they run a detective agency to help people, and usually help out the main heroes like Sonic. They just don't do much due to not showing up very often.

Ah I see, thanks. I guess I didn't remember them all that well after all.

Speaking of heroes, what if Mario had a game like that? Then we wouldn't have to worry about any of these characters getting a playable appearance.

 

[Kirbeh]

Ah I see, thanks. I guess I didn't remember them all that well after all.

Speaking of heroes, what if Mario had a game like that? Then we wouldn't have to worry about any of these characters getting a playable appearance.

Four three man teams? That'd certainly be interesting though I'm not sure how it'd work for a Mario game. How would the teams even be broken up? Perhaps

Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi
Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina
Wario, Waluigi and - I'm not really sure on this one. Maybe Nabbit I suppose.
There are a lot possibilities for teams really. Maybe bring in DK and Diddy? Toad and Toadette?

 

[Luminario]

Four three man teams? That'd certainly be interesting though I'm not sure how it'd work for a Mario game. How would the teams even be broken up? Perhaps

Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi
Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina
Wario, Waluigi and - I'm not really sure on this one. Maybe Nabbit I suppose.
There are a lot possibilities for teams really. Maybe bring in DK and Diddy? Toad and Toadette?

What about DK, Diddy and Dixie? then Wario, Waluigi, and Bowser/Nabbit?

 

[Kirbeh]

What about DK, Diddy and Dixie? then Wario, Waluigi, and Bowser/Nabbit?

Sounds good, though I switched a few around to:
Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi
Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina
Wario, Waluigi, and Captain Syrup
DK, Diddy, and Dixie
Toad, Toadette, and Birdo
Bowser, Jr, and Nabbit

The real question is how the game would even play. The teams aren't exactly balanced for something like Heroes as Zesty suggested, so the focus would need to be on something else that could work well with all teams and all characters on each team.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

In development of Mario Tennis there was a Waru-Peach (bad Peach) found in the files. I guess they figured it was better to use the pre-existing Daisy to not overdo the Wa- family.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

In development of Mario Tennis there was a Waru-Peach (bad Peach) found in the files. I guess they figured it was better to use the pre-existing Daisy to not overdo the Wa- family.

A Waru-Peach would have looked either really bad scary or actually decent depending on how the face would have looked.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

A Waru-Peach would have looked either really bad scary or actually decent depending on how the face would have looked.

The eyeshadow should be fine, but the nose and exaggerated ugliness would make her look terrifying.

Imagine a WaruDaisy...

 

[Luminario]

I imagine a Waru-Peach face to look similar to possessed Adeleine in Kirby 64

Though a Shadow Queen Peach look but with a pointy nose would also work really well.

 

[Freduardo]

I did a google image search for wapeach.

Some cool concepts out there.

My headcannon however decided that Wapeach and Wadaisy are the glorious Giana sisters.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

The eyeshadow should be fine, but the nose and exaggerated ugliness would make her look terrifying.

Imagine a WaruDaisy...

Pointy ears and nose and perhaps that "cheaters" personality.

 

[Kirbeh]

Pointy ears and nose and perhaps that "cheaters" personality.

Maybe some messy, spiky hair as well. Some sharp, harsher shapes to contrast the round ones that make up Peach and Daisy's hair styles. So something somewhat similar to what they did with Wario and Waluigi's mustaches compared to Mario and Luigi.

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

Maybe some messy, spiky hair as well. Some sharp, harsher shapes to contrast the round ones that make up Peach and Daisy's hair styles. So something somewhat similar to what they did with Wario and Waluigi's mustaches compared to Mario and Luigi.

So, it'd be another application of the "Like Mario, but crudely drawn by someone who hates Mario" approach that was partly behind Wario's design?

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Nabbitt is a Ninji gone rogue

 

[AndreaAC]

I imagine a Waru-Peach face to look similar to possessed Adeleine in Kirby 64

Though a Shadow Queen Peach look but with a pointy nose would also work really well.

D: OH MY, I FORGOT HOW SCARY SHE LOOKS LIKE THAT!

Tortilla Noggin We need the VOLATILE HOTDOG (xD Many are gonna be confused about this, so, if you could sum up the origin of the joke. please?)

:3 She's done.

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

Tortilla Noggin We need the VOLATILE HOTDOG (xD Many are gonna be confused about this, so, if you could sum up the origin of the joke. please?)

:3 She's done.

Oh god.

Ok... The Volatile Hotdog to which Andrea refers is a joke from a social thread. It was a result of someone else posting that GIF above, and Andrea remarking that the hot dog was clearly deserving of a spot in Smash because of its obvious strength. Then I drew a stupid picture of it in the style of the Kirby series' art, and the rest was history.

On that note, maybe I should try drawing that Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid that was suggested earlier in the thread?

 

[Victory.IsMyDestinySSB4]

Now, the issue with a Wario team game is that Nintendo hasn't really made a wario game centered on greed since Wario World. Nintendo I think really wants to push him into a different firection. In Alax's know your moves, he mentioned how Wario is more representative of his WarioWare games.

 

[Kirbeh]

Now, the issue with a Wario team game is that Nintendo hasn't really made a wario game centered on greed since Wario World. Nintendo I think really wants to push him into a different firection. In Alax's know your moves, he mentioned how Wario is more representative of his WarioWare games.

All the Wario games are based on greed though, why do think he makes microgames? He's running the business for a quick buck as usual.

He is indeed based entirely off WarioWare (RIP Wario Charge), and WarioWare is the only Wario series they seem to be focused on at the moment. The team game isn't at all likely, just something we happened to come up with and decided to discuss further. You know, just more speculation and brainstorming on what could be even if it likely won't happen.

It is quite a shame though, the WarioWare games are fun and all, but I would've liked to see them continue the Wario Land series alongside it instead of outright replacing one for the other. It does irk me a little to see Nintendo regularly pump out 2D platformers for multiple other series including those we wouldn't expect like Chibi Robo and Pikmin (more of a puzzle/adventure game actually but still) and yet continue to ignore Wario Land. I know these are all handled by different teams of course and don't expect them to be assigned something like a new Wario Land, but I wish Nintendo would at least consider it.

I suppose that's just the way it goes. From what I know, the Wario Land games did enjoy moderate success but were never really big hits, and were more popular in the west than in Japan. WarioWare fared much better, especially in Japan, so it makes sense that that's the direction after their experiment with the first game was successful.

 

[Freduardo]

Shake it wasn't centered on greed?

 

[AndreaAC]

Oh god.

Ok... The Volatile Hotdog to which Andrea refers is a joke from a social thread. It was a result of someone else posting that GIF above, and Andrea remarking that the hot dog was clearly deserving of a spot in Smash because of its obvious strength. Then I drew a stupid picture of it in the style of the Kirby series' art, and the rest was history.

On that note, maybe I should try drawing that Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid that was suggested earlier in the thread?

xD Good Old Times....

:D I would love to see you giving that idea a shot! I was going to do it....but....I got busy with other stuff, besides, drawing the Rabbids isn't my forte like drawing Ray is in comparison!

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

:D I would love to see you giving that idea a shot! I was going to do it....but....I got busy with other stuff, besides, drawing the Rabbids isn't my forte like drawing Ray is in comparison!

Ok, it's just a very quick piece, but here it is: The crossover that no-one wanted to see!

You can bet that all of the people who suggested the idea of a Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid are regretting it right about now!

 

[AndreaAC]

Ok, it's just a very quick piece, but here it is: The crossover that no-one wanted to see!

You can bet that all of the people who suggested the idea of a Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid are regretting it right about now!

xD I expected to see "DAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!" in the background, BUT IT IS GREAT OVERALL! Awesome work, Tortilla!

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

xD I expected to see "DAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!" in the background, BUT IT IS GREAT OVERALL! Awesome work, Tortilla!

I thought that that might be overdoing it, since DAAAAHsy just wanted to go with the "Flower Power" angle for the background.

Anyway, thanks!

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Ok, it's just a very quick piece, but here it is: The crossover that no-one wanted to see!

You can bet that all of the people who suggested the idea of a Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid are regretting it right about now!

Christ, and I thought the female jumpsuit wearing rabbit from that E3 Raving Rabbids trailer was ugly.

 

[FunAtParties]

Ok, it's just a very quick piece, but here it is: The crossover that no-one wanted to see!

You can bet that all of the people who suggested the idea of a Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid are regretting it right about now!

I didn't suggest it, but I sure as hell regret it anyway.

 

[Ark of Silence101]

Ok, it's just a very quick piece, but here it is: The crossover that no-one wanted to see!

You can bet that all of the people who suggested the idea of a Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid are regretting it right about now!

Hey nice job! Btw, why can't I stop mentally playing "I'm sexy and I know it" when I am looking at this?

 

[AndreaAC]

Hey nice job! Btw, why can't I stop mentally playing "I'm sexy and I know it" when I am looking at this?

xD Oh my God, now I can't mentally unhear and unsee the Rabbid Daisy dancing that!

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Ok, it's just a very quick piece, but here it is: The crossover that no-one wanted to see!

You can bet that all of the people who suggested the idea of a Daisy-cosplayer Rabbid are regretting it right about now!

Kill it with fire.

No really, that thing will be haunting my dreams for a while.

 

[Joel_Tarkus]

If Daisy were in the game, her infamous line of "Hi I'm Daisy," better be there as a taunt.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

If Daisy were in the game, her infamous line of "Hi I'm Daisy," better be there as a taunt.

Too much obvious of a line to that ignorr.

Though it could be as annoying as Kirby's "Hi!".

 

[FunAtParties]

If Daisy were in the game, her infamous line of "Hi I'm Daisy," better be there as a taunt.

I don't want it as a taunt, I want it for when you select her character. Everyone else has the announcer say there name, Daisy don't need that, she'll tell you herself.

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

Christ, and I thought the female jumpsuit wearing rabbit from that E3 Raving Rabbids trailer was ugly.

And knowing the Rabbids, this one's probably a guy.

Kill it with fire.

No really, that thing will be haunting my dreams for a while.

I sincerely apologise. But you can thank/blame those who put the idea into my head.

If Daisy were in the game, her infamous line of "Hi I'm Daisy," better be there as a taunt.

With any luck, as AwesomeAussie27 says, it'll be too obvious of a line to ignore.

 

[AndreaAC]

And knowing the Rabbids, this one's probably a guy.


I sincerely apologise. But you can thank/blame those who put the idea into my head.


With any luck, as AwesomeAussie27 says, it'll be too obvious of a line to ignore.

xD He just wanted to feel PRETTY....and FABULOUS!

 

[A Distant Demon]

This is a little late since the topic has changed back to what it should be but. . .

i'm going to have to say it again. This is not a social thread. Way too may posts in this thread not about Daisy. And when you already eclipse every other thread in posts by a mile it probably means some fat can be cut.

Keep it on topic please.