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ChikoLad

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^That reminds me that my Club Nintendo Smash posters, one of them being of Rosalina, should probably be framed.

Wouldn't mind having one or two of my favourite fanart pieces as prints to frame too.
 

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Feh.

Things aren't looking good for this game.
You said it. They add lots of characters and then will do half of the job. My hopes are low. Really low.

But in fact, what pleases me is that there's no sign of Miis yet. That's really good news. Instead of focusing on them, perhaps did they concentrate their efforts on every and each characters.
 
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It's a definite that Miis will at least be playable. No reason why they wouldn't be.

But the console versions of these games generally don't even attempt to have a story mode, we will probably just get Legends Showdown 2.0. I would imagine characters like Rosalina will just be rivals in that mode and then when you beat them, you unlock them to play as in that event.

Which is dumb. Why are Rosalina and Rouge on the front cover if they are going to get such a small role?
 

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It's a definite that Miis will at least be playable. No reason why they wouldn't be.

But the console versions of these games generally don't even attempt to have a story mode, we will probably just get Legends Showdown 2.0. I would imagine characters like Rosalina will just be rivals in that mode and then when you beat them, you unlock them to play as in that event.

Which is dumb. Why are Rosalina and Rouge on the front cover if they are going to get such a small role?
They certainly just wanted to show newcomers and took these two.
For the Miis, I'm just happy they don't seem to have an important role. The opening just focused on the characters and that's good for me.
 

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It sounds like even the Wii U version will have character restrictions if Rosalina is only allowed to participate in Gymnastics.
And if that happens, new outfits will also be cancelled. I know that Rosalina, for one thing, isn't restricted to aquatics because that image was leaked and unfortunately was removed.



Gymnastic seems to be Rosalina's favorite sport now that you've think about it. Or just her main ideal sport for Rio this year.
 
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Geez, that sounds like the laziest thing they could possibly do. Character restrictions would make no sense at all on the Wii U version especially with fan favorites like Rosalina. Maybe they're just using her as the poster girl for that particular event in their advertisements and we'll see more of her close to or after release. They wouldn't be that lazy with this game, right? ...Right?
 

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Geez, that sounds like the laziest thing they could possibly do. Character restrictions would make no sense at all on the Wii U version especially with fan favorites like Rosalina. Maybe they're just using her as the poster girl for that particular event in their advertisements and we'll see more of her close to or after release. They wouldn't be that lazy with this game, right? ...Right?
I mean, no reason why they wouldn't.

It's bound to make at least a decent amount of money.
 

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Geez, that sounds like the laziest thing they could possibly do. Character restrictions would make no sense at all on the Wii U version especially with fan favorites like Rosalina. Maybe they're just using her as the poster girl for that particular event in their advertisements and we'll see more of her close to or after release. They wouldn't be that lazy with this game, right? ...Right?
If Ultra Smash has anything to say about this matter, then yes, Nintendo can potentially become lazy with the Wii U version of the Rio 2016 Olympics as well.
 

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If Ultra Smash has anything to say about this matter, then yes, Nintendo can potentially become lazy with the Wii U version of the Rio 2016 Olympics as well.
Actually, SEGA make the Mario & Sonic Olympics. Nintendo just gives them the license to use their characters and assets.
 

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Well, at least TMS #FE looks packed. There ought to be plenty of Super Saiyan Marth and hopefully we'll have more Olympics Rosalina. And of course the cuteness that is Mini Rosalina.
 

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Well, at least TMS #FE looks packed. There ought to be plenty of Super Saiyan Marth and hopefully we'll have more Olympics Rosalina. And of course the cuteness that is Mini Rosalina.
The only problem with THAT game is that it entirely misses the point of what people expected it to be...

...seriously, I don't know what Nintendo does be thinking sometimes.
 

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The only problem with THAT game is that it entirely misses the point of what people expected it to be...

...seriously, I don't know what Nintendo does be thinking sometimes.
You can blame the Japanese fanbase for that, I think. Either that, of I'm extremely ignorant.
 
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You can blame the Japanese fanbase for that, I think. Either that, of I'm extremely ignorant.
I just think it's Nintendo being tone deaf.

Either that, or Atlus wanted to make a new game with original characters, and realised it could sell better with the SMT and FE names (even though it still did terribly in Japan despite that).
 

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I just think it's Nintendo being tone deaf.

Either that, or Atlus wanted to make a new game with original characters, and realised it could sell better with the SMT and FE names (even though it still did terribly in Japan despite that).
The game's been in development for how many years, now? Four? Possibly even longer than that. The Japanese fanbase, as well as the niche American fanbase, anticipated this game for YEARS. Unfortunately, for both sides, the game is exclusive only on Wii U, which means there's little to no chance of ever reaching even a smidge of their target audience.
 

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The game's been in development for how many years, now? Four? Possibly even longer than that. The Japanese fanbase, as well as the niche American fanbase, anticipated this game for YEARS. Unfortunately, for both sides, the game is exclusive only on Wii U, which means there's little to no chance of ever reaching even a smidge of their target audience.
Well we don't know that for sure, because things went quiet for a good while.

I honestly think the game went on a hiatus for a bit, and that's why it took so long to come out. Either that or it went through development hell and they started over or something.
 

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Well we don't know that for sure, because things went quiet for a good while.

I honestly think the game went on a hiatus for a bit, and that's why it took so long to come out. Either that or it went through development hell and they started over or something.
Either way you put it, it's very likely the game won't sell well. Considering the fact that Nintendo isn't using Atlus at all aside from some development help here and there, they've made a bad decision on their part. Hopefully with the NX, things can change.
 

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Looks like 3D World modding might be gearing up.

I hope we get to the point of having a level creator like Galaxy and Galaxy 2 had "Anarchy in the Galaxy".

I want to make courses designed to exploit Rosalina's attributes.
 
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Looks like 3D World modding might be gearing up.

I hope we get to the point of having a level creator like Galaxy and Galaxy 2 had "Anarchy in the Galaxy".

I want to make courses designed to exploit Rosalina's attributes.
Looks interesting. I'd like to recreate Bob-Omb Battlefield.
 

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It's not even May yet, and the game releases on June 24th, which is 6 days before the end of June. I can safely say that there might be more news on the game at the late spring and early summer. Just, try to have a little hope. Some faith could work, who knows? Maybe we'll be seeing Rosalina running tracks and jumping hurdles, onto attacking her opponents in Judo (Which would be funny and enjoyable to look at). As for me, I remain positive.
 
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I just want the Rugby Rosalina to come true...



We need her to keep being the Power Class gal!
 

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Well, it's no surprise Nintendo were being lazy AS USUAL with games like those. It's them we're talking about here.
 

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Well, it's no surprise Nintendo were being lazy AS USUAL with games like those. It's them we're talking about here.
Hope they can bring us something good at E3, or else...
 

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Well, it's no surprise Nintendo were being lazy AS USUAL with games like those. It's them we're talking about here.
I honestly don't care about those kinds of games, anyway. I'm only interested in the AAA games.
 

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I just want the Rugby Rosalina to come true...



We need her to keep being the Power Class gal!
Frankly, I feel like she should more be the All-Around-type, since the Power-type is often cursed with having poor speed, and Rosalina definitely doesn't look like a slowpoke.
 

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Frankly, I feel like she should more be the All-Around-type, since the Power-type is often cursed with having poor speed, and Rosalina definitely doesn't look like a slowpoke.
Her speed isn't always her best attribute... Even in MK8, she has a lack of speed for more acceleration. I would prefer Rosalina being a power-type (isn't she by the way the first lady of the series to be power-type?). And I want her to fight Bowser in the boxing event right to outer space! Not just doing... rythmic gymnastics...
 

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Her speed isn't always her best attribute... Even in MK8, she has a lack of speed for more acceleration. I would prefer Rosalina being a power-type (isn't she by the way the first lady of the series to be power-type?). And I want her to fight Bowser in the boxing event right to outer space! Not just doing... rythmic gymnastics...
Just in case you've forgotten, Rosalina has the second highest speed, and the second lowest acceleration in Mario Kart 8. Yes, Rosalina is slower than the likes of Bowser, Wario, Morton, and Dry Bowser, but her speed stats are still above average.

Anyway, I just think that making Rosalina an All-Around character would enable her to fare well in just about any event. Most Power characters tend to have poor speed, and almost all of them have poor technique stats as well.
 

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Just in case you've forgotten, Rosalina has the second highest speed, and the second lowest acceleration in Mario Kart 8. Yes, Rosalina is slower than the likes of Bowser, Wario, Morton, and Dry Bowser, but her speed stats are still above average.

Anyway, I just think that making Rosalina an All-Around character would enable her to fare well in just about any event. Most Power characters tend to have poor speed, and almost all of them have poor technique stats as well.
I've not forgotten, I wasn't aware of this, that's it. Doesn't change my mind though, especially when the 3DS game states her speed and technique are average, while her power and stamina are above average. Minus stamina, she's got approximately the same stats as Wario (just a bit faster and a bit weaker). Unless those characteristics are changed in the Wii U version, she's got more chances to be power than all-around (or technique). That's why it's weird for her to be stuck with gymnastics with such characteristics.
Minus that, she's always shown more power than speed. In Mario Golf she's just behind Bowser with her shots, and of course power in Mario Tennis. I don't like the idea of her being all-around, it doesn't give her any special ability.
 

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I guess when I think about Rosalina's typing, she seems more like a Technical-type or Tricky-type character. If Rosalina was a Tricky-type, she could've easily make powerful curves that can make even Boo feel jealous.

Anyway, Rosalina and Power-type just doesn't mix for my tastes, because she lacks the physical bulk that Wario, Donkey Kong, and Bowser are known for.
 
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^But she actually has a fit, strong, fairly thick (in some areas) body, is extremely heavy, and is huge. So the power typing makes complete sense.

Besides, most physically strong female characters are thin as a rake, and sometimes tiny. Just look at Tifa, or even Bayonetta. Her build is frankly irrelevant because vidya gaem logic, but it helps that she actually has a build that would justify being a power type.

If you wanted to make Rosalina have a typing that makes the most sense for her character, she'd have to be an "All-Round" with all stats maxed out. And they're not gonna do that. :V

We don't need another female character that's All-Round, Speed, Technique, etc. There are absolutely no female Power types in most Mario spin-offs to my knowledge, and Rosalina makes the most sense to be a Power type out of all of them anyway. Might as well make her one.
 
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I guess when I think about Rosalina's typing, she seems more like a Technical-type or Tricky-type character. If Rosalina was a Tricky-type, she could've easily make powerful curves that can make even Boo feel jealous.

Anyway, Rosalina and Power-type just doesn't mix for my tastes, because she lacks the physical bulk that Wario, Donkey Kong, and Bowser are known for.
I think that there is a compromise here. Traditionally Power characters have lower technique/ speed stats. Similarly to how Knuckles is a more rounded out power character in terms of Speed, Rosalina can have relatively low/average power and stamina for a power character in exchange for having higher technique at the cost of acceleration and/or speed (by SM3DW logic).
 
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I think that there is a compromise here. Traditionally Power characters have lower technique/ speed stats. Similarly to how Knuckles is a more rounded out power character in terms of Speed, Rosalina can have relatively low/average power and stamina for a power character in exchange for having higher technique at the cost of acceleration and/or speed (by SM3DW logic).
IIRC, people say she still has decent speed in Mario Tennis despite being a Power character, so I think they should just make her specialise in Power and Speed, mostly power, without lowering her Power stat much. They are the most tangible stats she would be associated with. Power for her physique, powerful magic and status, and heavyweight status in Mario Kart. Speed because long legs or floating, and because she's fast in Mario Kart. She's got the slowest speed STAT in 3D World, but that game took great liberties with her anyway for obvious reasons, and she still works out as technically being the fastest character in the game due to the wide versatility of the Spin Attack, especially chaining it with Long Jumps or using it to Mega Man X your way across walls.

Not that any of this matters right now, as I do think Rosalina and every other new character will just be playable in one event on Wii U version too, as much as I don't want that.
 

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We don't need another female character that's All-Round, Speed, Technique, etc. There are absolutely no female Power types in most Mario spin-offs to my knowledge, and Rosalina makes the most sense to be a Power type out of all of them anyway. Might as well make her one.
We don't exactly have that many female Tricky-type characters either. Yes there's Baby Peach, but frankly, I find her status as a Tricky-type character to be quite awkward as a whole.

Anyway, I just know that Power-type characters are often cursed with having poor technique ratings, and I just don't see Rosalina having awful technique attributes. If Rosalina was a Tricky-type, it would at least show that she has the ability to manipulate her shots while maintaining good accuracy with them.

On a side note, in Mario Sports Mix, Slime is a Tricky-type character, but it's just as powerful as a Power-type character.
 
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