Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Con0rrrr]

Guis I got infos on the August Smash Direct.

Direct Opens with Sakurai Playing Super Metroid

Sakurai: Oh Hello! Welcome to the Smash Direct. Today I am going to show you you a brand new character addition to Smash Bros!

Metroid music starts playing

Sakurai: Now, in the past, I've always been hesitant towards character sizes. Of course that only applies to games I did not make. In other words, inferior games that you should not ever play. Kirby and Kid Icarus master Race!

But this time, I have decided to include one very popular Metroid character always thought of as "being too big", take a look!

Smash reveal trailer starts. Samus is obviously tired and beat up on a lava planet. Looks like it could be the end. Suddenly we see she is on Brinstar, but something is missing.... a loud crash is heard

KRAID SQUEEZES IN!

Sakurai: It was a great monumental task to include everyone's favorite Metroid villain, Kraid, into Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS. We hope you enjoy playing as him!

But the age old question still remains... Who would win in a fight between Samus' most evil villains? Kraid, or everyone's favorite space pirate... Ridley! Well that question will be answered in Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS!

How you ask? Well obviously just hop in a match on pyrosphere with Kraid and prepare to fight the stage boss Ridley!

 

[Trigger123]

6) I'm pretty sure Sakurai said that there was going to be three different slots for the Mii character (gunner, swordsman, fist fighter), and there was only one slot for the Mii there

I thought it was only 1 on the official website they're together as one. But that roster is Definetley not real

 

[silver_blade001]

No, there's just going to be one Mii slot.

I don't know where people are getting that each Mii has it's own slot.

In the digital video conference Sakurai said that each of the individual Mii characters will act as a separate fighter, thus a different character for each. If that isn't what he meant then I have no idea of what it is.

 

[majora_787]

In the digital video conference Sakurai said that each of the individual Mii characters will act as a separate fighter, thus a different character for each. If that isn't what he meant then I have no idea of what it is.

That's because Sakurai considers each moveset to be a character. It makes no sense for Miis to occupy three spaces on the normal roster and not their own tab or whatever like they usually do.

 

[Shuma]

http://youtu.be/PMseKXLk0zA?t=22m46s

Miis only take one slot.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Here they are, @Dalek_Kolt:

And here is a better version of my Roidley`s head:

I decided to skip few pages because i have not enough time.

 

[Headcrab Jackalope]

So this is how I imagined GameFAQs when they freaked out after (finally) figuring out that Ridley jumped in the Direct:

 

[Reila]

Another Pyrosphere picture of the day and still no stage hazard/boss Ridley. How many pics so far? 60? 100?

 

[Morbi]

Another Pyrosphere picture of the day and still no stage hazard/boss Ridley. How many pics so far? 60? 100?

All of them.

 

[AustarusIV]

Another Pyrosphere picture of the day and still no stage hazard/boss Ridley. How many pics so far? 60? 100?

At this point, I'm finding it hilarious. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sakurai kept tiptoeing around his presence after the 3DS version's release and his (possible) disconfirmation.

 

[NintenRob]

I still think the Ridley in the direct is this one

 

[AustarusIV]

Speaking of the newest picture of the day, do you think it's possible that Ridley was customized to float for a longer period of time? Assuming that he wasn't a stage hazard?

 

[IsmaR]

I actually had flashbacks to Ridley doing that crappy gust attack that he's never EVER done anything like in his Brawl boss battle.

Also Roidley having DK's proportions and all that.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Dyna-Ridley's gust attack was sadly one of the first things that came to mind for me too when I just looked at the PotD. Uuugh.

edit: Hey look, Shuma viewing the thread again.

 

[IsmaR]

The other thing that came to mind was me dreading the thought of people (detractors/"don't question Sakurai's brilliance!" fanboys mainly) telling us to get over Ridley's exclusion by making use of Charizard's customization options and using alternate color schemes.

 

[Jigglypuff & Luma]

What did Sakurai say on that post, I think it is the gust bellow, or DK's costumisable move

 

[Maresch]

Speaking of the newest picture of the day, do you think it's possible that Ridley was customized to float for a longer period of time? Assuming that he wasn't a stage hazard?

That works perfectly. I can see people trying to play Ridley for the first time and wondering "Why can't I fly for so long like I saw in that one direct?" and some time later they finally discover that alternate move and going "OHHHH, that's why. Clever Sakurai."

The other thing that came to mind was me dreading the thought of people (detractors/"don't question Sakurai's brilliance!" fanboys mainly) telling us to get over Ridley's exclusion by making use of Charizard's customization options and using alternate color schemes.

*shivers*... We tried that with Brawl modding. It just felt so wrong.

 

[Reila]

At this point, I'm finding it hilarious. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sakurai kept tiptoeing around his presence after the 3DS version's release and his (possible) disconfirmation.

It wouldn't make sense to keep toying with Ridley's status after the 3DS version's release, because at that point, we will know whether it is playable or not.

What did Sakurai say on that post, I think it is the gust bellow, or DK's costumisable move

Pic of the day. Here's Donkey Kong's third standard special attack, Storm Punch!! Thanks to the customization options, each fighter is stocked with 12 different special moves. The number of attacks is pretty appalling.

 

[Shuma]

Dyna-Ridley's gust attack was sadly one of the first things that came to mind for me too when I just looked at the PotD. Uuugh.

edit: Hey look, Shuma viewing the thread again.

Still waiting for Ridley, i'm sure it'll happen any time now. Any time now...

 

[Vintage Creep]

Another Pyrosphere pic, another day without certainty in life.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Speaking of the newest picture of the day, do you think it's possible that Ridley was customized to float for a longer period of time? Assuming that he wasn't a stage hazard?

Maaaybe...unless he can float in the same way as Peach (by holding the jump button)...
Wait...if it is now possible to customize attacks, then shouldn`t we edit Ridleymoveset on the Ridleyfirst page?


Is it possible to see at least parts of that Best Buy Sm4sh event or whatever it was called now or it is impossible?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Another Pyrosphere picture of the day and still no stage hazard/boss Ridley. How many pics so far? 60? 100?

It's actually only pic #51 from Pyrosphere.

Brawl Ganondorf looks like a grandpa. 'Nuff said

I prefer grandpa Dorf over the silly willy troll Dorf from Melee honestly.

 

[IsmaR]

Actually, that brings another thought to mind. What if one of Pit's customizable specials is his Brawl/Wings of Icarus one?

While I think it was changed for balance/maintaining KI: U "canon" purposes (especially now with Palutena being in), it could have been to further differentiate from other flying/pseudo-flying characters. (though I doubt that's why Meta Knight still hasn't been shown).

Edit: Updated title since demo-talk is dying down.

 

[Staarih]

It's actually only pic #51 from Pyrosphere.

Oh, so few... that's nothing then, might as well wait another 50+ pics of Pyrosphere before we actually get more info out of it.

or maybe that's all there is... RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

 

[NintenRob]

With the lounge, can I handle foreign affairs since I frequent Gamefaqs (And even caused the Ridley jump explosion)

 

[Reila]

It's actually only pic #51 from Pyrosphere.

Right... "only". Is the Pyrosphere the stage featured in most pictures?

Brawl Ganondorf looks like a grandpa. 'Nuff said

You say that like it is bad thing.

 

[SuperMasterHand]

The french one is different :

"Sur les ordres de Mother Brain, Ridley a enlevé le dernier exemplaire de Métroïde en détruisant l’académie spatiale où celui-ci se trouvait. La structure génétique de ce parasite s’apparente au Dragoturnos RV7. Ridley peut ressembler à une créature primitive mais possède en fait une intelligence très développée."

Or more or less with my horrible lack of english skills :
"Under Mother Brain's orders, Ridley stole the last metroid by destroying the space academy where it was captive.
The genetic structure of this parasite is simillar to the Dragoturnos RV7.
Ridley may look like a primitive creature but it possess in fact a highly-developed intelligence".

Ca fait plaisir de voir des français à la fois fan de Smash et de Metroid :D

Anyway, I may be the only one but I actually think the other M Ridley would fit better as a Playable character than the Brawl model. I don't really like the brawl model, it looks so thin, and his neck ...
Other M ridley is bigger but smaller and would looks better in the Bowser's size than the thin classic Ridley, but I'm pretty sure they'll come up with a Smash New Model !

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Ca fait plaisir de voir des français à la fois fan de Smash et de Metroid :D

Anyway, I may be the only one but I actually think the other M Ridley would fit better as a Playable character than the Brawl model. I don't really like the brawl model, it looks so thin, and his neck ...
Other M ridley is bigger but smaller and would looks better in the Bowser's size than the thin classic Ridley, but I'm pretty sure they'll come up with a Smash New Model !

Yes, he would fit better because of his proportions - it is easier to make a claw swipe animation with him than with Ridley. But it has its own issues, including his duck beak, short legs, bulky proportions and spikes of villainy. If he would be thin and cleaner, with normal beak, then he would be perfect for me. I still like it more than NES Ridley.
Ridley MUST be thin because this is the way he is always made. In every game, he is thin and only in Other M he doesn`t looks like a skinny/slender pterosaur-dragon-thing. It makes him kinda unique.

Yet another Ridley 3D fanart by me, but this time with a better head:

Spoiler

 

[Kamiko]

Anyway, I may be the only one but I actually think the other M Ridley would fit better as a Playable character than the Brawl model. I don't really like the brawl model, it looks so thin, and his neck ...
Other M ridley is bigger but smaller and would looks better in the Bowser's size than the thin classic Ridley, but I'm pretty sure they'll come up with a Smash New Model !

Yes, he would fit better because of his proportions - it is easier to make a claw swipe animation with him than with Ridley. But it has its own issues, including his duck beak, short legs, bulky proportions and spikes of villainy. If he would be thin and cleaner, with normal beak, then he would be perfect for me. I still like it more than NES Ridley.

I still don't know where this kind of thinking comes from, but I'm working on proving it wrong at this very moment. Roidley's bulk in particular seems like it would make it harder to pose him.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Right... "only". Is the Pyrosphere the stage featured in most pictures?

Nah, it's behind Battlefield, Boxing Ring, Pilotwings, Town and City, and the Galaxy stage.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Nah, it's behind Battlefield, Boxing Ring, Pilotwings, Town and City, and the Galaxy stage.

Probably because those stages don't have much going on in them.
INCLUDING PYROSPHERE HOPEFULLY

 

[Phaazoid]

At this point, I'm finding it hilarious. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sakurai kept tiptoeing around his presence after the 3DS version's release and his (possible) disconfirmation.

Turns out the method of unlocking Ridley is having the 3DS version communicate with the Wii U version

Edit: Updated title since demo-talk is dying down.

At least SOMEONE's on top of that

cough

 

[kylexv]

Did I miss something?

BTW this was our 51st Pyrosphere image.

 

[Kamiko]

Turns out the method of unlocking Ridley is having the 3DS version communicate with the Wii U version

Too big for just one system?

 

[Reila]

Nah, it's behind Battlefield, Boxing Ring, Pilotwings, Town and City, and the Galaxy stage.

I don't remember that many pictures of the Pilotwings and Mario Galaxy stages, but I will take your word on that.

 

[Phaazoid]

Too big for just one system?

But wouldn't it be such a **** move? Not only can you not unlock everything without at least access to both versions, but you have to wait until the Wii U version to know the full roster

 

[Kamiko]

But wouldn't it be such a **** move? Not only can you not unlock everything without at least access to both versions, but you have to wait until the Wii U version to know the full roster

Yeah, but I'll take that over what everyone else thinks is happening. Teasing Ridley before showing that he's only a boss? Nothing mean about that, nope.

 

[Phaazoid]

Yeah, but I'll take that over what everyone else thinks is happening. Teasing Ridley before showing that he's only a boss? Nothing mean about that, nope.

Yeah but if the first thing happens then no one unlocks him when the 3DS version comes out and we have no pyrosphere so everyone assumes he's gone for at least 2 months

That'd be pretty crushing

of course it would still imply that ,in the end Ridley would be playable, so I wouldn't complain xD

 

[BaganSmashBros]

But wouldn't it be such a **** move?

Thats better than if Ridley isn`t playable at all...at least for me. Why? Becaues you will try to unlock Ridley in 3DS version and few months later, while you still trying to unlock Ridley *BAM!* You see him as a stage boss...and then suddenly aliens attack the world, Godzilla wakes up, Samus visits our planet and accidentaly activates self-destruction sequence, Nintendo announces a new Metroid game, but it has even more dialogs, cutscenes, crying Samus, "THE BABY", bull way of getting upgrades, horrible Ridley and a terrible personality of Samus, but you don`t care anymore (well...maybe you still care about a horrible Ridley design, but nothing more) and just let out a loud "FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-" while Earth explodes.

 

[Crocovile]

Nice work there @ BaganSmashBros , that altered Ridley model looks much more natural now. And there's one thing I especially have to commend you on, you've actually moved Samus' shoulders in accordance with her arms. Because seriously Sakurai, all this work and Samus' arms still clip through her shoulders in all the pictures we've gotten so far. I get that things like capes and dresses most likely will end up clipping on the same model, but shoulders? that's just lazy work I tell you.