the reason why CAPCOM will chose another rep instead of Megaman

[Hyrule_mauri]

having a character in brawl is a great way to promote a game, everyone knows that, it was a great way to promote fire emblem, SEGA knows they will benefit from having sonic in, I can garantee you many people would wanna try a good sonic game once they play brawl.

now if CAPCOM wants a character in, I think they would want a charcater from a big budget game to be in, such as a RE character so even more people will try unbrella cronicles or other RE games, or maybe ryu from SF now that SF IV is comming having him in brawl will make people curious to try SFIV

now why do I think megaman has little chance??? easy most of the people who want megaman want him for the sake of nostalgia, his good days in the NES and SNES, however since MMX4 megaman games have gotten stale and sales have become really low, now all megaman games are low budget for a niche market....he just isn't at the level of mario and snake anymore....and for that reason CAPCOM will likelly want a character from a big budget game in, instead of getting megaman for the sake of nostalgia...unless a big budget megaman game was in the way to revive the franchise, the same way ninja gaiden did on the xbox

is not nintendo who gets the most benefit, it's the third parties...

don't come saying capcom will like to promote megaman starforce 2 it is a low budget game, capcom dosn't ivest much in megaman games anymore cause they don't sell good, they are for a niche market only, megaman starforce never was on the top-10 sales spots in japan and just recived a 5.7 score on IGN and 6.0 on gamespot
capcom has killed the megaman franchise whit so many games in so little time....resident evil is capcoms best selling franchise on the other hand...and many peole are hyped about SFIV since there hasen't been a SF game in 10 years and it seems to be big budget

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Nintendo gets to choose the character, not Capcom unless Capcom apprached them.

even if that happened, more gamers are interested in having Megaman added than ANY of Capcom's other characters

Megaman is the FACE of Capcom, their mascot and the most recognized of any of the characters.

Megaman is also more important to Nintendo's history than any other character choice.




You really have no idea what you are talking about in ANY of your post

 

[Drclaw411]

*crosses fingers for viewtiful joe*

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

now we have to act in a mature way, just because you want megaman in doesn't mean he has more chance...this is a bussines, so we have to be realistic...I love megaman, but I dounb a third party would wast a precious oportunity to promote a game since SSBB will likelly be the best selling game on wii

I hope people takes this thred seriously and don't flame me because of my hypotesis

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

now we have to act in a mature way, just because you want megaman in doesn't mean he has more chance...this is a bussines, so we have to be realistic...I love megaman, but I dounb a third party would wast a precious oportunity to promote a game since SSBB will likelly be the best selling game on wii

I hope people takes this thred seriously and don't flame me because of my hypotesis

I don't think you understand anything about business in the first place, definetly not enough to make an open statement saying how Capcom and Nintendo do business

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

Nintendo gets to choose the character, not Capcom unless Capcom apprached them.

even if that happened, more gamers are interested in having Megaman added than ANY of Capcom's other characters

Megaman is the FACE of Capcom, their mascot and the most recognized of any of the characters.

Megaman is also more important to Nintendo's history than any other character choice.




You really have no idea what you are talking about in ANY of your post

I know what I'm talking about but we just want megaman for the sake of nostalgia...
but Capcom will likelly prefer a more respected character in, megaman is the most recognized capcom character, but it just dosn't sell anymore like RE or DMC

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I know what I'm talking about but we just want megaman for the sake of nostalgia...
but Capcom will likelly prefer a more respected character in, megaman is the most recognized capcom character, but it just dosn't sell anymore like RE or DMC

Nostalgia is the only reason Sonic is in the game and was wanted in the game

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

I don't think you understand anything about business in the first place, definetly not enough to make an open statement saying how Capcom and Nintendo do business

yes I do...know about bussiness I'm a master in bussines administration BTW
having megaman in is just for the sake of nostalgia, brawl will sell the same whit or whitout megaman, and capcom will likelly prefer to add a character FROM A GAME THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO SELL MORE

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

yes I do...know about bussiness I'm a master in bussines administration BTW
having megaman in is just for the sake of nostalgia, brawl will sell the same whit or whitout megaman, and capcom will likelly prefer to add a character FROM A GAME THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO SELL MORE

Nintendo will think more about selling THEM more before letting other companies put in a character to help them out...

Megaman would help NINTENDO sell more

 

[Johnknight1]

This thread is a failure. Simply put, HE IS CAPCOM'S MASCOT! WE get Koonam's and Kojima Studios' best selling series' most important character, and SEGA's mascot and most popular character from their best selling series, Sonic the Hedgehog. Nintendo doesn't give a f*** about SFIV, especially sincei t might not even appear on the Wii, and it probably won't even come out until this time 2009 to this time 2010. Simply put, Capcom's favorite character in Megaman, Nintendo gets the choice of the best and most popular character, and it will be MEGAMAN! We got two icons of gaming in Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog in Brawl already. They're basically the biggest and 3rd biggest 3rd party icons of gaming. Megaman is the 2nd, and Nintendo gets to chose-and Capcom will be willing to do it.

[ends and pwns discussion]

 

[OmegaXXII]

another thread that is doomed for failure, Megaman will be in Brawl and is the most likely out of any others so...you FAIL there

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

Nostalgia is the only reason Sonic is in the game and was wanted in the game

nope, sonic still gets good reviews and sells good on DS, many people enjoyed the sonic adventure and sonic heroes games which still sell really good...it was untill the wii-360-ps3 that sonic has been phailing.....megaman has been niche since 1994

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

most of you guys don't see this issue from a bussins standpoint....

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

most of you guys don't see this issue from a bussins standpoint....

No, you just don't understand business and are not looking at it from NINTENDO's business standpoint

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

Nintendo will think more about selling THEM more before letting other companies put in a character to help them out...

Megaman would help NINTENDO sell more

dude megaman won't help smash sell....his own games barelly sell !!! clearly you have no knowlege of the state of the industry today

 

[launchpadmcqak13]

Dude, I couldn't agree more. Good argument, although I'm hoping you're completely wrong. Because I want megaman in there like no other.

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

This thread is a failure. Simply put, HE IS CAPCOM'S MASCOT! WE get Koonam's and Kojima Studios' best selling series' most important character, and SEGA's mascot and most popular character from their best selling series, Sonic the Hedgehog. Nintendo doesn't give a f*** about SFIV, especially sincei t might not even appear on the Wii, and it probably won't even come out until this time 2009 to this time 2010. Simply put, Capcom's favorite character in Megaman, Nintendo gets the choice of the best and most popular character, and it will be MEGAMAN! We got two icons of gaming in Solid Snake and Sonic the Hedgehog in Brawl already. They're basically the biggest and 3rd biggest 3rd party icons of gaming. Megaman is the 2nd, and Nintendo gets to chose-and Capcom will be willing to do it.

[ends and pwns discussion]

megamas WAS an icon...megaman starforce didn't even sell a quarter of a million copies... he WAS an icon but his games dosn't sell anymore

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

Dude, I couldn't agree more. Good argument, although I'm hoping you're completely wrong. Because I want megaman in there like no other.

I do want him too, (but I'm fine whit leon or ryu too) I grew up whit him

but some people don't understand he has less chances that they think

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

If people wanted any other character than Megaman in Smash, then why they not have the same kind of support or number of fans added together? (From Capcom)

 

[Johnknight1]

nope, sonic still gets good reviews and sells good on DS, many people enjoyed the sonic adventure and sonic heroes games which still sell really good...it was untill the wii-360-ps3 that sonic has been phailing.....megaman has been niche since 1994

WHO CARES ABOUT CAPCOM=??? HONESTLY, IT'S ABOUT NINTENDO!

If Capcom refuses to put Megaman in Brawl, then Nintendo will go down the list to Geno (if they don't have both on their lists already), Simon Belmont, Bomberman, etc. Nintendo doesn't give a s*** about minor characters, or wants them in Brawl. It's about the big f***ing icons, not nobodies that no one cares about, outside of cult classics (like Lucas, Ness, Marth, and Geno) that people actually care about.

And Sonic sales are at a all time low, so don't pull that s***. IGN gave Shadow the Hedgehog a 2.0/10, while all Sonic games since then have recieved overwhelming negative reviews. It's considered by many gamers the biggest series to go down the drain!

Andever played MM Battle Network 3 or 4 (4 sucked pretty much)=??? They sold REALLY, REALLY, REALL well=njk. Maybe not Zelda or even Metroid sales, but they did good for the GBA in the time they came out.

In the end, it's what they BUYERS AND CREATORS OF BRAWL WANT! They don't want some idiot third class crappy character in Brawl, they want the best of the best. PERIOD!

YOU FAIL!

 

[OmegaXXII]

dude megaman won't help smash sell....his own games barelly sell !!! clearly you have no knowlege of the state of the industry today

hey n00b, how about you say this in the Megaman thread (I dare you) but anyway Megaman WILL sell more if Megaman "classic" or "X" form are indeed present in Brawl so I don't know what you mean

 

[AsbestosBlatant]

Capcom's into high-risk ventures nowadays.

Aaand I guarantee you that a DMC character isn't getting in. Don't bet on RE either, because Sakurai wants a limited amount of real weapons, handgun/rifle type things especially.

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

WHO CARES ABOUT CAPCOM=??? HONESTLY, IT'S ABOUT NINTENDO!

If Capcom refuses to put Megaman in Brawl, then Nintendo will go down the list to Geno (if they don't have both on their lists already), Simon Belmont, Bomberman, etc. Nintendo doesn't give a s*** about minor characters, or wants them in Brawl. It's about the big f***ing icons, not nobodies that no one cares about, outside of cult classics (like Lucas, Ness, Marth, and Geno) that people actually care about.

And Sonic sales are at a all time low, so don't pull that s***. IGN gave Shadow the Hedgehog a 2.0/10, while all Sonic games since then have recieved overwhelming negative reviews. It's considered by many gamers the biggest series to go down the drain!

Andever played MM Battle Network 3 or 4 (4 sucked pretty much)=??? They sold REALLY, REALLY, REALL well=njk. Maybe not Zelda or even Metroid sales, but they did good for the GBA in the time they came out.

In the end, it's what they BUYERS AND CREATORS OF BRAWL WANT! They don't want some idiot third class crappy character in Brawl, they want the best of the best. PERIOD!

YOU FAIL!

nop on IGN there was an article and they said MEGAMAN was the the biggest series to go down the drain


and dude you don't work for nintendo you don't know what they or capcom are thinking.....my reason comes from what will be logical froma bussines standpoint....i already said IS NOT NINTENDO WHO GETS MORE BENEFIT FROM HAVING A THIRD PARTY CHARACTER, IS THE THIRD PARTY WHO GETS THE MORE BENEFIT

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Capcom has made ****ty decision with Megaman, and hasn't included HIM in a game for a long time (Making ****ty Megaman series that don't even have Megaman in them)

But, Megaman has more fans than any of other other characters...More fans = more sales.

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

Capcom's into high-risk ventures nowadays.

Aaand I guarantee you that a DMC character isn't getting in. Don't bet on RE either, because Sakurai wants a limited amount of real weapons, handgun/rifle type things especially.

I disagree, they can create a moveset like they did whit snake and fox and C.falcon...

besides RE sells better than MM on nintendo consoles, RE is capcom's best selling franchise and is still popular today

 

[Red_Maniac]

While I am neither for nor against Megaman, if only one Capcom character could make it in, it would be Megaman.

 

[Montmorency]

Not to be rude but..... I don't know what is more annoying, the lack of logic or the horrid grammar.....


Megaman is the obvious choice for Brawl....But for you, it all comes down to this.....


What the hell have you been smoking?

 

[Circus]

You bring up interesting points about what Capcom wants. It does seem logical for them to want to promote their big, upcoming titles. That is, afterall, probably what is most beneficial for them.

But it doesn't really matter what Capcom wants. Nintendo controls the roster (though, it is apprently subject to "beggers"). Capcom may ideally want an RE or SF rep, but if Nintendo met with them and said "We want Megaman", what do you think Capcom would've done? Haggled?

Sakurai thinks about characters he wants for Brawl—not companies he likes. If he or some other Nintendo representative met with Capcom, it's because they said "We want so-and-so (my guess would be Megaman, based on the fan response)", not "We want one of your characters, who would you recommend?" If Capcom would prefer to have some other character in, it doesn't matter if Nintendo doesn't want that character in.

Now, I'm no businessman, and I certainly won't pretend to know how Nintendo and Capcom specifically do business, nor how business would be conducted between the two companies specifically. But general logic tells me that if Nintendo asks Capcom for Megaman, Capcom's only possible answers are "yes" or "no". If Nintendo wanted other Capcom characters, they would've asked. And if they didn't want those other characters, then they didn't get in. That simple. It doesn't matter how much a character from SF may help out Capcom; if it's not what Nintendo wants, then it doesn't matter. They aren't in the business of making Capcom more money. They're going to ask for the character that the fans want, which seems to be Megaman.

 

[Hyrule_mauri]

Capcom has made ****ty decision with Megaman, and hasn't included HIM in a game for a long time (Making ****ty Megaman series that don't even have Megaman in them)

But, Megaman has more fans than any of other other characters...More fans = more sales.

ok then why megaman games don't see well since 1994, megaman X5- X8 didn't sell well, MM8 and megaman & bass didn't sell at a RE, MGS or mario caliber either

more fans=more sales as you said....megaman is a NICHE seires nowadays...check the word niche in a dictionary

 

[Red_Maniac]

nop on IGN there was an article and they said MEGAMAN was the the biggest series to go down the drain

If IGN said it, it MUST be true!

 

[tirkaro]

let me first begin this by very kindly saying:
ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!?????
you obviously dont know anything about what the hell you're talking about. first off, megaman is capcom's MASCOT! HIS F*CKING MASCOT!!! YOU DONT SEE KOJIMA PUTTING IN DJANGO INSTEAD OF SNAKE DO YOU? AND YOU DONT SEE SEGA PUTTING IN NiGHTS INSTEAD OF SONIC DO YOU!? HEY, NIGHTS HAS AN UPCOMING WII GAME, DOESN'T HE!!!!!???? SO WHY DIDN'T THEY PUT NiGHT'S INSTEAD OF SONIC!? I'LL TELL YOU WHY!!!!!! BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FAWKING ********, THATS WHY!!!!

dude megaman won't help smash sell....his own games barelly sell !!! clearly you have no knowlege of the state of the industry today

which perfectly explains why megaman is the 20th best selling franchise of all time, while NONE other capcom franchise sells better.

listen, I'm usually civilized, and I normally dont go on outrages like this, but your utter ignorance makes me sick to my stomach. "his games hardly sell" MY (gutsman's) A$S!!!!! THEN CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY EVEN THE FREAKIN BATTLE NETWORK GAMES MAKE THE TOP TEN SALES FOR WEEKS IN JAPAN?
NO! YOU CANT! GOOD, DAY

 

[Johnknight1]

hey n00b, how about you say this in the Megaman thread (I dare you) but anyway Megaman WILL sell more if Megaman "classic" or "X" form are indeed present in Brawl so I don't know what you mean

It's the most posted on thread in the character section that isn't of a confirmed character (either that or the Ridley thread). And the Megaman series is the 18th best selling series of all-time. Here is a list of the best-selling series of all-time not repped in SSB yet, and that are 3rd party franchises, that have never been owned by either Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft EVER.


Final Fantasy (75 million)[153] - No main character=new game everytime.
Resident Evil (32 million)[162] -No main character=four main characters.
Mega Man (27 million)[162] - MEGAMAN!
Street Fighter (25 million)[162] -Megaman is Capcom's mascot, and lacks single most important character.
Castlevania (20 million)[170] - Lacks single most important character, and has tons of main characters in each game.
Frogger (20 million)[172] - He died in the 80's.
Rayman (20 million)[174] - Barely back, but still, ya never know. Still, Rayman is no Megaman or icon.
Prince of Persia (10 million)[174] - Too litle sales, and it's too small.
Kingdom Hearts (10 million shipped)[62] - Made one Nintendo console appearance (on the GBA), and lacks the popularity of Megaman.

I WIN!

And Resident Evil lacks a sole important character. Two characters star two games, and like 6 in one game. So Resident Evil lacks a single most important character!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

ok then why megaman games don't see well since 1994, megaman X5- X8 didn't sell well, MM8 and megaman & bass didn't sell at a RE, MGS or mario caliber either

more fans=more sales as you said....megaman is a NICHE seires nowadays...check the word niche in a dictionary

Because none of those games have Megaman in them for one, and Capcom are really ****ty in their decisions about his games

 

[OmegaXXII]

I will have to agree that RE has been selling alot lately, but Megaman is a FAR bigger capcom icon, plus it's been on multiple Nintendo icons which is part of Nintendo's history, as for your business point of view, WHO CARES? sure the newer megaman games may be crappy and lacking in sales, BUT Icon plus popularity is what will get megaman in Brawl

 

[Terradrius]

nop on IGN there was an article and they said MEGAMAN was the the biggest series to go down the drain


and dude you don't work for nintendo you don't know what they or capcom are thinking.....my reason comes from what will be logical froma bussines standpoint....i already said IS NOT NINTENDO WHO GETS MORE BENEFIT FROM HAVING A THIRD PARTY CHARACTER, IS THE THIRD PARTY WHO GETS THE MORE BENEFIT

Do you honestly think that Sakurai will say, "Hey, Capcom, we want a character, it doesn't matter if it's iconic in Nintendo's history or whatever..." instead of "Hey, Capcom, this is a game about Nintendo's history, and Megaman is a huge player in that, so can he be in Brawl?" This game isn't just about business, it's about fan service. Yes, the third party gets more benifit, but is it really up to the third party company who gets into Brawl?

And besides, if Megaman is slumping as much as you say, couldn't you argue that Capcom could try to revitilize his series and promote his new games by putting him in?

Also, the ZX series is doing pretty well/is quite good, or so I hear.

 

[vesperview]

Thread creator, are you Lord Hokage?

 

[Your Hero]

Mainly I don't like megaman being in the game because of the fact that he has something that makes samus unique: the arm cannon. It would obviously be one of megaman's attacks and would basically destroy samus' original attack :S. That is all :]

 

[Sir James]

now why do I think megaman has little chance??? easy most of the people who want megaman want him for the sake of nostalgia, his good days in the NES and SNES, however since MMX4 megaman games have gotten stale and sales have become really low, now all megaman games are low budget for a niche market....he just isn't at the level of mario and snake anymore....and for that reason CAPCOM will likelly want a character from a big budget game in, instead of getting megaman for the sake of nostalgia...unless a big budget megaman game was in the way to revive the franchise, the same way ninja gaiden did on the xbox

is not nintendo who gets the most benefit, it's the third parties...

don't come saying capcom will like to promote megaman starforce 2 it is a low budget game, capcom dosn't ivest much in megaman games anymore cause they don't sell good, they are for a niche market only, megaman starforce never was on the top-10 sales spots in japan and just recived a 5.7 score on IGN and 6.0 on gamespot
capcom has killed the megaman franchise whit so many games in so little time....resident evil is capcoms best selling franchise on the other hand...and many peole are hyped about SFIV since there hasen't been a SF game in 10 years and it seems to be big budget

But by the same logic, couldn't it be argued that they would add Megaman in Brawl to revive his games? You say that Starforce and such are low budget titles, but what if they are working on a new Megaman X game to be released next year?

Before the Wii, Sonic games could be argued that they were low budget also. Sonic was in the same boat as Megaman. Why wouldn't Capcom add Megaman to revive his series?

 

[tirkaro]

are you Lord Hokage?

nah. at least hyrule is capaple of making a somewhat intelectual post. Lord hokage's utter stupidity is unmatched by all of mankind.

 

[Hydde]

I really dont think mega will help selling as much as sonic or snake do.... but well people want him.

The difference in the "sonic is nostalgia, mega too" statement is that even when both did well in the past,....megaman was never mario´s enemy.. or the mascot of nintendo´s biggest rival at that time.

Everyone knows the rivalry between mario and sonic... and that explains the boom sonic has created.

Mega would be a nice remain from the past tho.. I would like him... but sincerely the guy in the first post expressed some facts.


On the other hand...... RE characters? Ryu? I highly doubt so... the most fitting one is mega man.