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The Price of Convenience

Zook

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Buying something for entertainment is completely different than buying something for convenience. Like, not even in the same ballpark. Apples to oranges. This blog is about convenience, I even put it in the title to make it easy. If you want to point out where I said that people should only buy the bare minimum and not spend money on ANY entertainment EVER please be my guest, but I'm pretty sure I didn't.
Basically, think about **** before you spend money on it. Do you need this thing? No, do you REALLY need it? Didn't think so. Walk away and spend your money on something worthwhile, like saving for your unborn children's college.
This is what I was responding to. And anyways, it's similar because you can buy cheaper forms of entertainment than $60 video games.

Honestly, its hard to reply to the OP because of how dumb the example is.
 

mountain_tiger

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Time is only wasted if you think it's been wasted.

For instance, I must have sank literally hundreds of hours into Tekken 6 by now. Some people would consider that a huge waste of time that I could have used for something more productive. Do I think that way? Not at all - I think that it was a worthwhile use of my time because it was fun. If you don't get any enjoyment out of life, why bother living?
 

Browny

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Ok people need to seriously stop bringing up entertainment in this thread, its completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed and skews the points solid is making.
 

¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯

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This is what I was responding to. And anyways, it's similar because you can buy cheaper forms of entertainment than $60 video games.
When you take that out of context, then yes, I can understand that. But I don't see what's so hard about leaving it in context, it seems pretty simple to me. I feel like I have to ****ing edit the OP a million times to get an intelligent, relevant response, Jesus.

Honestly, its hard to reply to the OP because of how dumb the example is.
Are you serious? Completely disregard the example then. The example doesn't even matter, and if you aren't trolling then I don't see how you can't understand that.

Ok people need to seriously stop bringing up entertainment in this thread, its completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed and skews the points solid is making.
Thank you.
 

Wretched

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A voice once told me: You may see them for what they are not, but they may see themselves as what they've always wanted to be.
Why are you so condescending? You've never heard a random voice talk to you, and thus far, you haven't engaged anyone in a serious conversation. I don't understand what your objective on these boards is. You talk at such a high and prestigious level, yet people walk all over you and ignore you, or they finally acknowledge you, and when they do, they're asking you to stop.
People talk about issues. People want other people to like and agree with their opinions on issues. It happens, and everything that happens doesn't need to be overcomplicated by you and your thesaurus.
 

-Jumpman-

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Your objection to these pseudo-conveniences seems that they in no way enhance one's life and are a waste of money. I think your objections are shallow. In your approach to this problem you don't consider the benefits of these conveniences, you don't see how they function economically, you don't evaluate their value psychologically. You merely conclude that they are a waste of money, while at the same time you don't suggest an alternative use for this money.

Even completely ignoring your terrible examples, this post doesn't allow for discussion.

Disregarding your argumentation, I do agree that these conveniences are unnecessary. The conviences you mentioned are products of the journey to economic expansion, while not contributing the society in the process. The money spent on these products could easily be used to save oneself time in more efficient ways.

I'd suggest approaching such problems from a less personal point of view, and evaluating their value to society, it gives everyone more room to contribute.
 

PsychoIncarnate

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Take the price of the item and how long it's going to save you time (Added over time), if that adds up to less than you make an hour, than I find it a good buy.

Time is money, and if something can save you time, overall it's saving you money.
 

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Your objection to these pseudo-conveniences seems that they in no way enhance one's life and are a waste of money. I think your objections are shallow. In your approach to this problem you don't consider the benefits of these conveniences, you don't see how they function economically, you don't evaluate their value psychologically. You merely conclude that they are a waste of money, while at the same time you don't suggest an alternative use for this money.

Even completely ignoring your terrible examples, this post doesn't allow for discussion.

Disregarding your argumentation, I do agree that these conveniences are unnecessary. The conviences you mentioned are products of the journey to economic expansion, while not contributing the society in the process. The money spent on these products could easily be used to save oneself time in more efficient ways.

I'd suggest approaching such problems from a less personal point of view, and evaluating their value to society, it gives everyone more room to contribute.
Thanks for the constructive criticism. I don't feel the need to provide alternative uses for money saved, that's up to the person saving money. Unlike someone saving 25 seconds of time here and there with such and such gadget, saved money can actually be saved or used for whatever they want to buy.

Also, this is a blog. It's personal. I can't dictate what people spend their money on, these are my personal feelings on spending money on conveniences.

I'm also confused as to why you attack my objections and then agree with the entire premise of the blog. Seems a bit hypocritical. Regardless, thanks I suppose. You actually provided some argument as opposed to people strawmanning and talking about completely irrelevant things.
 

-Jumpman-

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Thanks for the constructive criticism. I don't feel the need to provide alternative uses for money saved, that's up to the person saving money. Unlike someone saving 25 seconds of time here and there with such and such gadget, saved money can actually be saved or used for whatever they want to buy.

Also, this is a blog. It's personal. I can't dictate what people spend their money on, these are my personal feelings on spending money on conveniences.

I'm also confused as to why you attack my objections and then agree with the entire premise of the blog. Seems a bit hypocritical. Regardless, thanks I suppose. You actually provided some argument as opposed to people strawmanning and talking about completely irrelevant things.
My opinion on the subject is irrelevant, I just wanted to provide some objective criticism. I can see how you think it's hypocritical though. Hypocrisy isn't by definition bad, especially in this case, as my opinion and my criticism on your presentation and argumentation are two seperate things, although that's something for another time.

The reason I suggested providing an alternative for the money spent on these false conveniences, is that it is entirely your opinion that the money isn't well spent. It would simply support your idea of proper utilization of money.
 

Alien Vision

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Why are you so condescending? You've never heard a random voice talk to you, and thus far, you haven't engaged anyone in a serious conversation. I don't understand what your objective on these boards is. You talk at such a high and prestigious level, yet people walk all over you and ignore you, or they finally acknowledge you, and when they do, they're asking you to stop.
People talk about issues. People want other people to like and agree with their opinions on issues. It happens, and everything that happens doesn't need to be overcomplicated by you and your thesaurus.
Yes, indeed that I did hear a voice. I hear him in my dreams from time to time. I'm sorry that I'm actually listening to myself, rather than be that petty lost soul who doesn't know how to make his life better even though people gave him all of the advice that he needs to do so. *Cough*.

People don't walk over me. What are you on about?

I don't use a thesaurus. Besides, there are people on here who know how to use terms 100 times better than me, which is perfectly fine. I still will do my very best to get my viewpoints across, may my words be simple and full of mediocrity.

It's the knowledge that I want to share, I just have to broaden the catalysts for this knowledge.

Anyways, sorry for going off-topic Solid.
 
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