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The Original Girl With the Whirl: Dixie Kong Support Thread

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In case you guys didn't know, Dixie is up for rating in RTC! Let's get in there and show our support!
 

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I responded, too. I get really annoyed when people rate a "0%" on want just because they want a different character from the same franchise. Rate the character on their own merits, not based on how much you want someone else.

Either way, I think Dixie has excellent chances at this point to get in alongside K. Rool. ^^
 

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I responded, too. I get really annoyed when people rate a "0%" on want just because they want a different character from the same franchise. Rate the character on their own merits, not based on how much you want someone else.

Either way, I think Dixie has excellent chances at this point to get in alongside K. Rool. ^^
No truer words needs to be implemented in the majority of people's heads on this website.
 

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I'm not sure, but I think it looks like Dixie is doing pretty well in both chance and want so far :)

I'd like to add that I don't think tropical freeze would have to receive physical content to sway a decision for a character choice. Especially a last minute clone, which is becoming a likely possibility for her IMO. Just something to keep in mind.
I know people will always bring up K Rool and how she doesn't have a wide variety of abilities against her no matter what happens, but I'd like to see at least 1 of the 3 arguments against her get generally accepted to no longer be valid. But I'm not complaining, she looks to be at a rise.

Invite more people to rate! :3
 

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I'm not sure, but I think it looks like Dixie is doing pretty well in both chance and want so far :)

I'd like to add that I don't think tropical freeze would have to receive physical content to sway a decision for a character choice. Especially a last minute clone, which is becoming a likely possibility for her IMO. Just something to keep in mind.
I know people will always bring up K Rool and how she doesn't have a wide variety of abilities against her no matter what happens, but I'd like to see at least 1 of the 3 arguments against her get generally accepted to no longer be valid. But I'm not complaining, she looks to be at a rise.

Invite more people to rate! :3
Considering the fact that Dixie already IS the third-most prominent playable character in the DK series, I don't see how Tropical Freeze changes much. If anything, Sakurai planned on K. Rool and saw Dixie coming back, so he decided to add her as well, but its very possible he planned both from the start.
 

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Considering the fact that Dixie already IS the third-most prominent playable character in the DK series, I don't see how Tropical Freeze changes much. If anything, Sakurai planned on K. Rool and saw Dixie coming back, so he decided to add her as well, but its very possible he planned both from the start.
I would be completely satisfied with a last minute clone Dixie, but man, a unique Dixie (planned from the start) would really get me hyped. I do hope I'm wrong about all of this clone business, but it's just what I see as likely atm.
There is no argument on if DK deserves 4 Unique characters or not. It obviously does. But not everything gets what it deserves, and that's why I'm hesitant to get my hopes up on her being much more than Diddy's Lucina. I hope you're right though.
 

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Dixie will never be Diddy's Lucina, since I don't see Dixie being planned as an alt first.

She would be planned from the start as last minute "clone" but those were there own thing in Brawl. (Wolf, Lucas)
Semi-clone at worst.
 

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A clone Dixie would be an absolute injustice IMO.

I'd also argue that DK deserves 5 reps, tbh.
 

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I really do think there'll be a third DK rep in Smash 4. I'm still pretty torn over if I want Dixie or K Rool but honestly, either would probably satisfy me just fine. They'd both be unique (If not then that'd be BS)
 

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3 characters is something the DK franchise deserves at this point.
4 characters is just icing on the cake
5 might be pushing our luck.

Either way, there's far too much material for Dixie to work with for her to be an "exact" Diddy clone. Despite attacks having the same property, In her entire career Dixie has never attacked the same way Diddy does (ex, DKC2 Diddy cartwheel / Dixie hair twirl).

Anyway, I do think Dixie's second jump needs similar property's of Ness/Lucas/Yoshi's second jump, like her jump in tropical freeze. This lets her recovery still allow her to twirl higher, then float at a small downwards horizontal angle. (It wouldn't be gliding, since that's not present and all. Besides, Palutena already cheated with jumpglide lol.)
 

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Cloned Dixie wouldn't happen, I think.

From what we saw in Brawl clones (or rather, semi-clones) had the same specials but a different feel as far as the normals/neutrals/whatever you wanna call them were.

Ness and Lucas' specials had the 'same' specials, as in they were functioning in the same way had only varied a little bit.
Fox, Falco and Wolf all had a similar Up B, a side-b that was fast and allowed them to move to the side, a down B that was a reflector, and a neutral B which was a blaster.

I don't think I need to touch up on Mario/Luigi and Ganondorf/Captain Falcon.

Even Link and Toon Link shared their specials but had different normal moves.
 

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A clone Dixie would be an absolute injustice IMO.

I'd also argue that DK deserves 5 reps, tbh.
I disagree on 5 reps, but 4, yes. I think 5 reps for DK IS too much. I can't even think of anyone who'd make a good original moveset after K. Rool and Dixie, anyway.


3 characters is something the DK franchise deserves at this point.
4 characters is just icing on the cake
5 might be pushing our luck.

Either way, there's far too much material for Dixie to work with for her to be an "exact" Diddy clone. Despite attacks having the same property, In her entire career Dixie has never attacked the same way Diddy does (ex, DKC2 Diddy cartwheel / Dixie hair twirl).

Anyway, I do think Dixie's second jump needs similar property's of Ness/Lucas/Yoshi's second jump, like her jump in tropical freeze. This lets her recovery still allow her to twirl higher, then float at a small downwards horizontal angle. (It wouldn't be gliding, since that's not present and all. Besides, Palutena already cheated with jumpglide lol.)
3 is a bit of an unjustice to the DK franchise, but they do need AT LEAST 3. 4 I think is exactly right, even if the DK franchise has a huge resurgence, there really isn't anything else I can think of to make the franchise even better.
 

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I think DK, Diddy, Dixie, and K Rool round out the Dk cast perfectly. There should be no more or no less.
It perfectly replicates what mario has in brawl and represents the franchise the best, I don't think you can choose between dixie and K rool since they are equally important.
We have the main character = Mario/DK
The sidekick = Luigi/Diddy
The girlfriend = Peach/Dixie
and the villain = K Rool/Bowser
 

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Dixie's odds have never looked better:

1. Third most playable DK character, and the star of her own DK adventure games. No other Kong besides the two we already have deserves inclusion more.
2. A popular and well-loved addition that would please long-time fans (myself included).
3. A much-deserved rep for an underrepresented franchise.
4. A female rep to boot, something that is a HUGE focus in this new game (8 more females counting Villager, Robin and split Sheik/ZSS so far).
5. A return to prominence with the release of Tropical Freeze, that also means she can build on hype for both games.
6. Her similarities to Diddy bode well for her, as she is less resource-intensive than K. Rool, more recent, and, if Lucina is any precedent, newcomer clones and semi-clones are a very real possibility, throwing out the "all newcomers must be unique" argument.
7. She just fits in the game. One look at her, and you can totally see her going toe-to-toe with other Nintendo All-stars.
8. Forbidden Seven status means she has been considered before.
9. She's Dixie.
10. Gematsu debunked, meaning the odds for characters not named Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men just returned to their former glory.

Sakurai would have to be daft to not put her in now. I honestly think she looks more likely than K. Rool.
 

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Dixie's odds have never looked better:

1. Third most playable DK character, and the star of her own DK adventure games. No other Kong besides the two we already have deserves inclusion more.
2. A popular and well-loved addition that would please long-time fans (myself included).
3. A much-deserved rep for an underrepresented franchise.
4. A female rep to boot, something that is a HUGE focus in this new game (8 more females counting Villager, Robin and split Sheik/ZSS so far).
5. A return to prominence with the release of Tropical Freeze, that also means she can build on hype for both games.
6. Her similarities to Diddy bode well for her, as she is less resource-intensive than K. Rool, more recent, and, if Lucina is any precedent, newcomer clones and semi-clones are a very real possibility, throwing out the "all newcomers must be unique" argument.
7. She just fits in the game. One look at her, and you can totally see her going toe-to-toe with other Nintendo All-stars.
8. Forbidden Seven status means she has been considered before.
9. She's Dixie.
10. Gematsu debunked, meaning the odds for characters not named Chrom, Shulk and Chorus Men just returned to their former glory.

Sakurai would have to be daft to not put her in now. I honestly think she looks more likely than K. Rool.
Lol, the only thing I disagree with is that last note. I think she's VERY likely, but I think K. Rool looks better than ever with all of this massive amounts of Kremling love. In fact, I'm actually vying for both now.
 

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4 reps makes the most sense but it's Nintendo we're talking about, so you can't be sure.

I want Dixie but I have this gut feeling that if they put in another Kong it'll be Funky. It just seems like the type of thing Nintendo would do, put in an unexpected Kong that's different from the two veterans that has bags of personality.
 

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I disagree on 5 reps, but 4, yes. I think 5 reps for DK IS too much. I can't even think of anyone who'd make a good original moveset after K. Rool and Dixie, anyway.



3 is a bit of an unjustice to the DK franchise, but they do need AT LEAST 3. 4 I think is exactly right, even if the DK franchise has a huge resurgence, there really isn't anything else I can think of to make the franchise even better.
As much as I dislike the character, Cranky could be really unique. Then you also potentially have DK Jr, If FE can get 4, then DK can get 5.

I don't know about that since that's the same amount as their 3 biggest franchises (mario, zelda and pokemon) are likely to get
Mario has 5, but Yoshi and Wario are essentially Mario reps so that's 7.
Zelda has 5 already, but is likely to get a 6th.
Pokemon had 6 in Brawl, and is likely to get at least that again, probably a 7th.
 
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As much as I dislike the character, Cranky could be really unique. Then you also potentially have DK Jr, If FE can get 4, then DK can get 5.



Mario has 5, but Yoshi and Wario are essentially Mario reps so that's 7.
Zelda has 5 already, but is likely to get a 6th.
Pokemon had 6 in Brawl, and is likely to get at least that again, probably a 7th.
The only thing Cranky has going for him is pogo jumping with his cane, but endless bouncing of the ground and bouncing to the ground again is OP and literally no one can do it.


EDIT: And hell, why do people keep bringing up Cranky? He's already deconfirmed anyway...
 
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Cranky or Funky Kong playable instead of Dixie would be so stupid. lol And as ^ said, isn't Cranky already deconfirmed?
 

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Cranky or Funky Kong playable instead of Dixie would be so stupid. lol And as ^ said, isn't Cranky already deconfirmed?
Actually, Cranky's way more relevant to the DK franchise and has potential for a hilarious moveset.
 

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Wait, when did this happen?
There is video footage of a Cranky trophy being picked up in Smash Run and, as I have heard, its identical to his Brawl trophy.

EDIT: My mistake, can't find a video, but several people have commented on it, plus Jungle Japes is back.
 
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Actually, Cranky's way more relevant to the DK franchise and has potential for a hilarious moveset.
I don't care about relevancy or hilarious movesets. I want playable Dixie and/or King K. Rool, that is all.
 

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I wonder how many times Cranky is going to have to be deconfirmed before people realize he's not happening. Probably as many times as he was "revealed" for Tropical Freeze.
 

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4 reps makes the most sense but it's Nintendo we're talking about, so you can't be sure.

I want Dixie but I have this gut feeling that if they put in another Kong it'll be Funky. It just seems like the type of thing Nintendo would do, put in an unexpected Kong that's different from the two veterans that has bags of personality.
Funky's literally DK with clothes and an upright stance.

The only thing Cranky has going for him is pogo jumping with his cane, but endless bouncing of the ground and bouncing to the ground again is OP and literally no one can do it.


EDIT: And hell, why do people keep bringing up Cranky? He's already deconfirmed anyway...
Cranky also has cane-swinging attack options, potions with various effects, barrels, animal buddies and denture traps. Just saiyan.
 

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Animal buddies and barrels could be used by Dixie as well.

Actually, buddies would make much more sense in Dixie's moveset than in Cranky's.
 

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The only thing Cranky has going for him is pogo jumping with his cane, but endless bouncing of the ground and bouncing to the ground again is OP and literally no one can do it.


EDIT: And hell, why do people keep bringing up Cranky? He's already deconfirmed anyway...
I'm speaking hypothetically. I know that he won't be in, I'm just saying that there are viable reps for DK outside of Dixie and K. Rool (who do obviously take priority).

I'd imagine Cranky to move/act like Rafiki in The Lion King when he's kicking ass at the end.
 

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It occours to me the Kriby, Star Fox and Donkey Kong series have all had a lack of things revealed for them so far. I wonder if anythign bigger is in store for them.

Though what would Dixie's hook be? All newcomers have had something unique, bar Lucy, so what would this chimp bring to the table?
 

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It occours to me the Kriby, Star Fox and Donkey Kong series have all had a lack of things revealed for them so far. I wonder if anythign bigger is in store for them.

Though what would Dixie's hook be? All newcomers have had something unique, bar Lucy, so what would this chimp bring to the table?
A whole lot of crazy ass hair moves and like the opposite of little mac she'd have great in the air, average on the ground type of playstyle
 
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A whole lot of crazy *** hair moves and like the opposite of little mac great in the air, average on the ground
I meant in terms of mechanics. What coudl she do that say, Shantae or Fillia couldn't?
 
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It occours to me the Kriby, Star Fox and Donkey Kong series have all had a lack of things revealed for them so far. I wonder if anythign bigger is in store for them.

Though what would Dixie's hook be? All newcomers have had something unique, bar Lucy, so what would this chimp bring to the table?
Kirby AGAIN? It already got tons of stuff in Brawl. And Star Fox? Ugh.

Out of the mentioned series, Donkey Kong is the only one severely lacking in content, as well as Metroid.
 

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Kirby AGAIN? It already got tons of stuff in Brawl. And Star Fox? Ugh.

Out of the mentioned series, Donkey Kong is the only one severely lacking in content, as well as Metroid.
Star Fox has 1 character and a stage, that's the only content it has and kirby only has 2 characters, nothing else

EDIT: Forgot Kirby also has 1 assist
 
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Kirby AGAIN? It already got tons of stuff in Brawl. And Star Fox? Ugh.

Out of the mentioned series, Donkey Kong is the only one severely lacking in content, as well as Metroid.
I meant CURRENTLY REVEALED FOR THIS GAME. And if that's the argument we'r pulling Donkey Kong wasn't exactly lacking in Brawl. It was one of the few series to get two new stages. Stupid Mario hogging all the stage dev time. For it's sales and popularity though, it is lacking.
 
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