the official teir list

[psykoplympton]

And without further ado, I present to you the official SBR Brawl Tier List (v1.0):

Top
Meta Knight
Snake
King Dedede
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
R.O.B.

High
Marth
Wario
Lucario
Donkey Kong
Diddy
Pikachu
Ice Climbers
Kirby
Pit
Wolf

Middle
Toon Link
Olimar
Fox
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
Bowser
Luigi
Peach
Ike
Shiek

Low
Lucas
Ness
Mario
Pokémon Trainer
Samus
Yoshi
Sonic
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Link
Captain Falcon


discuss

 

[Nike.]

I like kirby lower than the chillin version. Makes it all the funner to win against top tier.

 

[DrkKnight]

WTF link second to last, wtf are they smoking, just cuz hes not popular in tourneys doesnt mean hes that low, he has the most AT's in the game so far, go figure,
and thats what im saying Nike, its funner to watch someone get merced by lower tier then a high tier

 

[~Gonzo~]

Link also has the worst recovery in the game

 

[Flipstar]

Ats =/= Good

 

[Asdioh]

Link also has the worst recovery in the game

Fight near the middle xD

I don't think that makes or breaks the character though.

And without further ado, I present to you the official SBR Brawl Tier List (v1.0):

Epic
Kirby

Just Alright
everyone else :D

discuss

Fixed

 

[PinkMarshMallow]

Donkey Kong is higher than kirby omg, =.= Marth didn't make it to top, poor lucas!!!

well low tier > top tier is fun lol =]

 

[psykoplympton]

its not saying witch chars are better or worse, just who is winning the most tourneys. meta knight wins the most. wether or not he is the best char wouldnt be a factor to him being top. just the fact that hes winning makes him top.

now that thats out of the way. i think that for now, kirbys placement is pretty accurate. a lot more people are starting to main him too.

 

[Lord Viper]

My Pink Kirby = Broken Tier

Anyways, this could be a problem, now everyone is going to know that Kirby has a lot of disjointed attacks and grabs. T_T

 

[psykoplympton]

that will only help us to be more creative with them.

 

[Banjodorf]

I'm happy Kirby placed where he did. No Kirby character placed below high tier. That's great.

No Mario character placed above Mid.

And The Starfox characters were 1-1 Top/High/Mid

All of these are interesting facts.

But more on topic, yay Kirby!

 

[Kirby Magatsu]

ouch, i only use high tiers -.-
i'm going to practice some low tiers.

 

[Royale]

I'm happy Kirby placed where he did. No Kirby character placed below high tier. That's great.

No Mario character placed above Mid.

And The Starfox characters were 1-1 Top/High/Mid

All of these are interesting facts.

But more on topic, yay Kirby!

i think one of the biggest reasons kirby moved up was due to the speed change in brawl. Melee kirby was hella slow, hes much quicker in brawl.

 

[Nike.]

That, and because chudat picked him up for the rest of the world to witness.

 

[blu_7]

Kirby's placement definatly makes perfect sense in not only has his speed and attack power have been more finely tuned, but because more and more proffesional smashers are showing his worth. He can even go toe to toe against pit and ike, when in the right hands.

go kirby! ^_^

 

[Asdioh]

its not saying witch chars are better or worse, just who is winning the most tourneys. meta knight wins the most. wether or not he is the best char wouldnt be a factor to him being top. just the fact that hes winning makes him top.

now that thats out of the way. i think that for now, kirbys placement is pretty accurate. a lot more people are starting to main him too.

It's partly based on tournament results, but also discussion of a character's actual "potential." A "lot of work" was put into this after all.

Waste of time imo

ouch, i only use high tiers -.-
i'm going to practice some low tiers.

haha, I main "high middle middle low" (Kirby, Toon Link, Ike, Captain Falcon)
And Toon Link is definitely NOT middle tier. He's high at LEAST.

And Captain Falcon isn't bottom, he's second to top, people just don't know it yet XD

 

[JayBee]

That, and because chudat picked him up for the rest of the world to witness.

I've seen excellent Kirbys before i even saw chu's, so that can't be the only reason. He's more mobile, faster, can rack up damage quickly from 0%, all of his moves are quick and all his smashes are great. and that's not even talking about the edgegaurding. IMO the only reason he's not higher is because of his lack of a gay projectile. other than that Kirby's da truth.

 

[cAm8ooo]

@blu_7

uhh, is going up against Pit and Ike really hard for other characters? Because i don't believe so, their only so so. If your going to make a correlation between kirby's skills and the characters he can go up against, at least make those characters really good ones

 

[IrArby]

Link is next to last cause he's doesn't have Midna or the Helm Splitter anymore (both Top Tier). I'd say the rest of it was more or less expected which is why everyone's talking about Kirby since he's the only recently bumped character.

 

[cAm8ooo]

Link is next to last cause he's doesn't have Midna or the Helm Splitter anymore (both Top Tier). I'd say the rest of it was more or less expected which is why everyone's talking about Kirby since he's the only recently bumped character.

Sorry to tell u this but your completely wrong. Its because he doesn't have his flock of angry chickens seen in every game from A Link to the Past to Wind Waker. Changing this in Twilight Princess really put a damper on Links abilities to **** face.

Wait a minute, Link never ***** face. o well.... Midna would have been a good addition i suppose.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Kirby is high tier.


This calls for celebration dammit! Bust out the whores and champagne immediately!

 

[DrkKnight]

link is only low tier cuz no one mains him in tourneys, and he has a crap recovery.

 

[Kirby Redux]

Donkey Kong is higher than kirby omg,

i agree here. I ALWAYS have beaten DK in any fight ive had... his recovery is horrible and hes so bigs its really easy to stage spike him.

 

[Asdioh]

DK and Bowser are extreme easymode. If you fight a good one, watch out because they can surprise you, but they're still easy.

Same with Dedede, if he's only 3rd because of his chaingrab, lol@abusers. Dedede is a Pizza Cake.

Nice Meta free sig, JayBee.

Wait, Wind Waker had angry flocks of chickens? I just remember raging pigs o_O

 

[cAm8ooo]

Wait, Wind Waker had angry flocks of chickens? I just remember raging pigs o_O

I thought it did, but i dont exactly remember, It's been a while since i've played that game lol

 

[blu_7]

@blu_7

uhh, is going up against Pit and Ike really hard for other characters? Because i don't believe so, their only so so. If your going to make a correlation between kirby's skills and the characters he can go up against, at least make those characters really good ones

yes, about that, TBH I realized how "so so" those characters were soon after I posted the message, but didn't take it off for many reasons( I couldn't think of any better characters at the time).


With that said, I'm sure any character can be beaten by kirby when in the right hands.

 

[blu_7]

@ cAm8ooo


I do agree Ike and Pit aren't that great, IMO, nowadays


sorry for the double post

 

[psykoplympton]

Kirby's placement definatly makes perfect sense in not only has his speed and attack power have been more finely tuned, but because more and more proffesional smashers are showing his worth. He can even go toe to toe against pit and ike, when in the right hands.

go kirby! ^_^

haha lawls pit and ike blow rofl

@blu_7

uhh, is going up against Pit and Ike really hard for other characters? Because i don't believe so, their only so so. If your going to make a correlation between kirby's skills and the characters he can go up against, at least make those characters really good ones

im glad you mentioned it. chudats kirby went toe to toe with chillens mk. although he lost chu probably beat other mks to get to the finals(most people play mk)in conclusion, kirby has teh skillz and can put up a fight with a lot of the higher chars.

 

[M@v]

yes, about that, TBH I realized how "so so" those characters were soon after I posted the message, but didn't take it off for many reasons( I couldn't think of any better characters at the time).


With that said, I'm sure any character can be beaten by kirby when in the right hands.

say that when you see DDDs WOP people right off the side to their deaths...

Also about the space animals, its pretty accurate, but fox can make high tier if more people main him. Hes good enough, hes freaking at the top of mid tier behind TL and olimar. Just not enough players ranking in tourneys with him.

For all the people I play a decent amount, DDD is the highest I use. I dont even really use the CG much though, only on the fatties. And hes a heavy character with A GOOD RECOVERY?!?!

 

[skellitorman]

For those people who think DK is bad against kirby, you guys have no clue. DK is a very good character and does well against kirby, but it isn't such a bad matchup for Kirby.

 

[psykoplympton]

ive always had a problem with dk vs kirby. even in melee i could never beat him. i should play him more.
idk if ddd can wop kirby cause hes so fluffy. it doesnt seem likely. and ddd cant chaingrab him. the only thing ddds got on kirby is his uptilt i think, with its strong killing ability. and a projectile lawl

 

[PinkMarshMallow]

DDD is pretty good for a heavy weight, but he such a big target =.=, he does have a good recovery and great chain grabs. He is now my favorite heavy weight character =]

 

[Asdioh]

Donkey Kong's bair certainly is good, and he has strong moves with great range. I'll give him that. But he's easy to combo and gimp. And if you steal his ability, then you have another strong KO move xD

Dedede's uptilt is good too, and his ftilt has great range, and some of his other moves are strong with great range too. He's just so slow and predictable. And due to his size, he, like DK, is easy to combo around the stage. I don't see how you can have too much trouble against him.

What is this talk of Dedede's wall of pain? Is it pretty much inescapable for a lot of characters?

I'll admit, I lost to Dedede in my first tournament, but I will not let that happen again. It was my first time playing Brawl with people offline, after all. It was my first time playing ANY smash game against good people offline. I can't wait to show them my wrath on Sept. 12-13 @_@

 

[Delta Z]

Heh. I use a Top, 2 Highs, and a Middle. I don't use TL, but I seriously expected him to be Lower High like Kirby. Diddy is too high; anyone that's good in the air has no trouble with the bananas, and Diddy has the worst killing ability out of everyone, right? And how'd DK get above us? I knew he got better, but whoa!

And D3's up there 'cause of his chaingrab, aerial ability, projectiles (which Bowser & DK don't have), actually good recovery, and the longest-range tilt in the game. And his Down. Best taunt there is.

 

[skellitorman]

The reason why DDD is hard for kirby is because of his grab RANGE. Do an aerial attack= shield grabbed, do a ground attack= shield grabbed. Dash attack= shield grabbed. Try to jump above or behind for an aerial= uptilt. Not to mention that his range is much better than Kirby's. He is also a heavyweight meaning a smash KO would have to be around 130 percent if opponent DI perfectly.

This match doesn't seem too bad though given the circumstance because Kirby's grab range is pretty large as well (although not as big as DDD) and Kirby can grab DDD pretty effectively as well. Both DDD and Kirby have grabs that give good damage. Also Kirby can do some good damage to DDD when DDD is in the air, so its a fair match id say.

I am also testing forward air and air hammer as they might be able to not get shield grabbed if you use them and hit with the edge of the hit box. So when I fight DDD again ill get back to you on it.

 

[Falconv1.0]

DK isn't too good against Kirby, but he is good. >_>

 

[Asdioh]

Do an aerial attack= shield grabbed, do a ground attack= shield grabbed. Dash attack= shield grabbed.

The problem with playing Brawl is that everything = shield grabbed. Seriously, I'm starting to hate this game. I just played a Wolf on wifi (yes wifi sucks, big time) but I couldn't do anything to him. Laser spam when I'm far, fsmash/dsmash/AAA/shield grab when I try to approach. There's just nothing I can do -_-

 

[psykoplympton]

wifi is teh sucks. it offers no real test of skill. you gotta play in person.
sheildgrabbing is effective but if the person knows what they are doing they wont get touvhed. especially with kirby. a shorthop bair and retreat(he has outstanding arial control) so you can wear down a sheild and then not get grabbed by doing this. its a good way to do it. and if someone is just sitting there waiting for you to hit their sheild dont. play defensive. for a little

 

[Lord Viper]

DK isn't too good against Kirby, but he is good. >_>

Drill Kick combo's is all you need against that over grown monkey.

But don't try to fake him out too much or his F-Smash will get you.... and it's not pretty. DX

 

[skellitorman]

The problem with playing Brawl is that everything = shield grabbed. Seriously, I'm starting to hate this game. I just played a Wolf on wifi (yes wifi sucks, big time) but I couldn't do anything to him. Laser spam when I'm far, fsmash/dsmash/AAA/shield grab when I try to approach. There's just nothing I can do -_-

No, this isn't a problem with Brawl, it is a problem against DDD. DDD's grab range is huge, everyone else's isn't. With any other character I can attack and hit the tip of their shield where they can never shield grab me, whereas DDD is the only person in the game who is able to do this to me as far as I know. If you ever played Melee shield grabbing happened alot as well and was a very good tactic, but was probably even worse in melee considering that alot of characters had chain grabs or grab combos, so I wouldn't be complaining.