The Official "Megaman in SSBB" Topic!

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megaman classic and megaman X are the same people in the same way link from legend of zelda to twighlight princess are the same. they fight in the same way, have the same virtues, but are seperate people.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

megaman classic and megaman X are the same people in the same way link from legend of zelda to twighlight princess are the same. they fight in the same way, have the same virtues, but are seperate people.

Links are reincarnations of eachother, dealing with the soul of the warrior of courage being reborn in a different body each time he is needed...

Megaman has no soul

 

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Links are reincarnations of eachother, dealing with the soul of the warrior of courage being reborn in a different body each time he is needed...

Megaman has no soul

can you honestly say that? can you? megaman's only in-human trait was the fact that he was a robot, other than that he was practically human. X was built to "feel" and have emotion, to love, hate, feel guilt, and think, battle, and desire. what seperates a person from a machine or animal? these are questions that will never be truely answered. but if megaman and X had no souls, they got **** well near them.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

can you honestly say that? can you? megaman's only in-human trait was the fact that he was a robot, other than that he was practically human. X was built to "feel" and have emotion, to love, hate, feel guilt, and think, battle, and desire. what seperates a person from a machine or animal? these are questions that will never be truely answered. but if megaman and X had no souls, they got **** well near them.

Anything created by man cannot have a soul

 

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Anything created by man cannot have a soul

not in real life no, but in the gaming world, anything is possible. and like I said, they must have gotten **** well near it.
and ya I know that nothing man made can have a soul, only the creations of god can.

 

[Goopygoo]

Mega Man has no soul. He killed all of his brothers, did he not?

 

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Mega Man has no soul. He killed all of his brothers, did he not?

dang you all make him sound so heartless, anyway it was either that or, let everyone die? would yousacrifice the human race for some brothers that hate you and are out to destroy you?also didnt X not want to fight throughout his games?

 

[Goopygoo]

Technically, he is heartless due to his lack of a heart. But in the figurative sense, I never said he was. I just said he didn't even attempt to free his brothers, instead just killing them with no questions asked. That is because he has no feelings, no soul, to resist with. Unless, that is, you consider Powered Up canon. I don't.

 

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Technically, he is heartless due to his lack of a heart. But in the figurative sense, I never said he was. I just said he didn't even attempt to free his brothers, instead just killing them with no questions asked. That is because he has no feelings, no soul, to resist with. Unless, that is, you consider Powered Up canon. I don't.

well, maybe clasic didnt but remember, X did hold back on sigma, he had the chance, but didnt destroy him right off. he also felt devistated when he saw all thos missles destroy the city, and felt like it was his fault he couldnt stop it.

plus think about it this way, its not like megaman COULD change them, they were reproggramed and he had no way of changing them after that, they werent themselfs anymore. it was more or less like they were possesed perminently, and were just their bodies attacking him. also megaman did spare wily what...8 times?

 

[Aqua Rock X]

basicaly in simpler terms.
1.megaman goes through life.
2.megaman is captured by wily
3.megaman is sent to the past to fight himself
4.loses
5.that megaman who defeated him falls to the same fate.

its called, the time loop-o-doom!

Except you have it wrong, Megaman wasn't captured and then sent to the past. Wily went 30 years into the future and then brought Mega into the present.

@Goopy: Megaman defeated his robot brothers, but that was only to free them from Wily's grasp. I assure you that when they are not fighting Megaman, they are alive, well, and on his side as seen in in the Japanese only game Super Adventure Rockman.

 

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Except you have it wrong, Megaman wasn't captured and then sent to the past. Wily went 30 years into the future and then brought Mega into the present.

@Goopy: Megaman defeated his robot brothers, but that was only to free them from Wily's grasp. I assure you that when they are not fighting Megaman, they are alive, well, and on his side as seen in in the Japanese only game Super Adventure Rockman.

either way it still has the same outcome.

o rly?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Except you have it wrong, Megaman wasn't captured and then sent to the past. Wily went 30 years into the future and then brought Mega into the present.

@Goopy: Megaman defeated his robot brothers, but that was only to free them from Wily's grasp. I assure you that when they are not fighting Megaman, they are alive, well, and on his side as seen in in the Japanese only game Super Adventure Rockman.

He actually implied that without writing it

 

[Aqua Rock X]

either way it still has the same outcome.

o rly?

I'm just saying don't think that would happen in MM9 because the battle between Quint and Megaman occurred in Megaman II for the gameboy. Wily would have to into the future to capture Megaman to send him back to MMII which would have no effect on the Mega in MM9.

 

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I'm just saying don't think that would happen in MM9 because the battle between Quint and Megaman occurred in Megaman II for the gameboy. Wily would have to into the future to capture Megaman to send him back to MMII which would have no effect on the Mega in MM9.

that doesnt make sense. think about it, I dont think there ever was a point in any of the megaman games were we actualy see him get captured, megaman 9 is the point to do so. so if megaman in 9 is captured and sent to the past(megaman 2 Game boy to be precise) then how would that NOT affect him? megaman is captured at some ppoint or another, if he was captuered in 2, there wouldnt be any games after that. the jist of it is, megaman=his own demise. if his future self is killed by his past self, than his past self will fall to the same fate. its a time loop thing. wery confusing unless you realy think about it.

the batle happened in 2 ya, but the captureing of the future megaman wasnt in 2s present.

 

[Goopygoo]

Actually, now that I think about it, Cut Man lived until Mega Man 8. Then he wanted a rematch, and Mega Man killed him then.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Actually, now that I think about it, Cut Man lived until Mega Man 8. Then he wanted a rematch, and Mega Man killed him then.

Actually every time they are destroyed they just get rebuilt over and over again...

All they need is one little chip intact...either that or Wily backs up their memories...

 

[Black/Light]

I think MM will take the last 3rd party spot. . . if one is all theres left (Sora for the 4th).

 

[bluebomber22]

all this made up mm storyline is confusing me. ill just wait 25 years until capcom makes mm9

 

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all this made up mm storyline is confusing me. ill just wait 25 years until capcom makes mm9

25 years is too long for me...
but most of what we put is based apon the current megaman knowlage and I dont feel like reposting the entire thing. we also git into a disscusion about megaman having a soul and a whole bunch of stuff...you missed alot...
its like 2 A.M. here so I think I'll head to bed...
Good night ya'll.

 

[bluebomber22]

25 years is too long for me...
but most of what we put is based apon the current megaman knowlage and I dont feel like reposting the entire thing. we also git into a disscusion about megaman having a soul and a whole bunch of stuff...you missed alot...
its like 2 A.M. here so I think I'll head to bed...
Good night ya'll.

oh i read it XD!

good night!

 

[Legolastom]

Hey guys the game boy game is not canon... : P looks like you waisted all that time talking about Quint.

Also as what was said before Link is the soul of the hero reincarnated, they are different people with different lives except they all share the same fate.

Mega man on the other hand, its hero's are all linked together: When Dr.Light was building X he based him off of his current design of Mega man... except they were completely different... they only really shared a similar design.

Then as you all know Zero when into status and well... X died at some point between then and Zero's awakening.

Then the ZX Mega man was the chip or something of X in the M.E.G.A. device.

So while the Zelda franchise has one of the most complicated time lines in the history of the universe Mega man has quite a simple one.

Er... also here is an updated version of my sheet http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p35/Legolastom/ArchAngel-Robotmaster-2.png

And Red Darkstar Kirby here is your sprite... the red darkstar brothers: http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p35/Legolastom/TheRedDarkstarBrothers.jpg

Also Stryk's have you seen my post yet!!??

 

[Aqua Rock X]

Hey guys the game boy game is not canon... : P looks like you waisted all that time talking about Quint.

Also as what was said before Link is the soul of the hero reincarnated, they are different people with different lives except they all share the same fate.

Mega man on the other hand, its hero's are all linked together: When Dr.Light was building X he based him off of his current design of Mega man... except they were completely different... they only really shared a similar design.

Then as you all know Zero when into status and well... X died at some point between then and Zero's awakening.

Then the ZX Mega man was the chip or something of X in the M.E.G.A. device.

So while the Zelda franchise has one of the most complicated time lines in the history of the universe Mega man has quite a simple one.

Er... also here is an updated version of my sheet http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p35/Legolastom/ArchAngel-Robotmaster-2.png

And Red Darkstar Kirby here is your sprite... the red darkstar brothers: http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p35/Legolastom/TheRedDarkstarBrothers.jpg

Also Stryk's have you seen my post yet!!??

Actually, the Gameboy games ARE canon. Slashman (MM7) is based on Pluto's (MMV) design. If the old Atomic Fire site was still up, I could provide a source. -_-

And yeah, the old robot masters do appear quite a bit. I don't know if anyone's noticed, but Wily seems to have a fondness for Gutsman. Don't believe me? Gutsman's been revived more than practically any other Robot Master. That, and Wily's strange "Hall of Gutsman" in the final area of his fortress in MM1.

 

[Legolastom]

Him and cutsman also no the game Quint was in IS NOT canon.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Him and cutsman also no the game Quint was in IS NOT canon.

Wasn't Quint in one of the Rockman and Bass games or something though also?

 

[Legolastom]

There was only one... and he wasn't in that.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

There was only one... and he wasn't in that.

Then what about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockman_&_Forte_Mirai_kara_no_Chōsensha

 

[Aqua Rock X]

There was a Rockman & Forte game on the Wonder Swan that had a Quint like character in it, but that game truly isn't canon.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

There was a Rockman & Forte game on the Wonder Swan that had a Quint like character in it, but that game truly isn't canon.

How exactly is it not canon?

 

[Legolastom]

Well I just discovered there was one while looking for an Aqua man sprite.

But I still doubt its canon... I mean it was released only in Japan and on the wonderswan.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well I just discovered there was one while looking for an Aqua man sprite.

But I still doubt its canon... I mean it was released only in Japan and on the wonderswan.

Well it is a Japanese company, and it was produced by Capcom as part of the Main series while the gameboys games are considered a different series...

 

[Legolastom]

Nothing wrong with it being released in Japan only but if it was that canon it would likely be released everywhere else considering his fanbase.

But its mainly the fact that its on the wonderswan : P

 

[Aqua Rock X]

How exactly is it not canon?

Err..."truly isn't canon" is a poor choice of words on my part. Perhaps I should have said, that I question the game's place in the MM timeline because the game's Robot Masters have no known numbers. To be honest, I'd agree that this current discussion is getting nowhere fast.

I did however find a nice resource site for Megaman/Rockman info.
http://www.megamanempire.com

Just go to the area labelled "Encyclopedia" and it should be of some help. The info was compiled by the higher-ups of Atomic Fire.

Edit: And MEGAMAN FOR BRAWL!!!!

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Just because Rockman&Forte wasn't on a popular system doesn't mean it isn't canon.

Canon means that everything fits into the main timeline, was developed by the original company (in this case Capcom), and is generally accepted en masse.

Even though the games were on the WonderSwan (a relatively unrecognized system [even I've never heard of it ]), as long as it was made by Capcom, fits in with the timeline (the Robot Masters not having numbers make it iffy), and is generally accepted by the community (which I believe it is), then it is canon.

(e.g. Games like the CD-i Zeldas are NOT canon, due to the fact that Nintendo didn't develop them, don't fit into the timeline, and litterally everyone hates them.)

EDIT:
Oh yea, and Megaman 4 Brawl

 

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Just because Rockman&Forte wasn't on a popular system doesn't mean it isn't canon.

Canon means that everything fits into the main timeline, was developed by the original company (in this case Capcom), and is generally accepted en masse.

Even though the games were on the WonderSwan (a relatively unrecognized system [even I've never heard of it ]), as long as it was made by Capcom, fits in with the timeline (the Robot Masters not having numbers make it iffy), and is generally accepted by the community (which I believe it is), then it is canon.

(e.g. Games like the CD-i Zeldas are NOT canon, due to the fact that Nintendo didn't develop them, don't fit into the timeline, and litterally everyone hates them.)

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Oh yea, and Megaman 4 Brawl

that makes sense to me, in this case, I believe the gameboy game IS canon. besides, its the closest we get to knowing how megaman dissapears, and I would rather have some reason than none.

 

[Legolastom]

A canon game means its accepted into the official storyline... doesn't matter who made it as long as its accepted into the official storyline.

But I remember reading somewhere that the game boy games (And thus Quint) are not canon and considering how nothing has been mentioned of Quint at all outside of those games it is very questionable.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

A canon game means its accepted into the official storyline... doesn't matter who made it as long as its accepted into the official storyline.

But I remember reading somewhere that the game boy games (And thus Quint) are not canon and considering how nothing has been mentioned of Quint at all outside of those games it is very questionable.

However the wonder swan one was the official sequel to Megaman & Bass, which was canon...

and it shows Quint...It also wasn't on gameboy

 

[Legolastom]

 

[AuraLancer]

That...that's beautiful.



EDIT: Mega Man for 3rd party slot #3

 

[bluebomber22]

Then what about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockman_&_Forte_Mirai_kara_no_Chōsensha

sweet I never knew about that game!

 

[Hellbeing]

Megaman X all the way

Megaman would have a LOT of possibilities for moves... maybe too many possibilities lol, maybe a transform move? down b? like shiek and Zelda SSBM but instead he changes from fire to cutter to ice to leaf to something to something to etc. to etc...