The Official Conquest Thread

[Nexin]

But what seperates the characters from one group from the ones in the other group, or what do the characters have in common with the other characters in their groups?

I don't think there is anything this time around. Generally the teams will have special names if there was a reason behind their grouping, but it's just Team Link vs Team Palutena this time around.

There is one reason that I think can explain some of the characters groupings. If I remember correctly, there was a conquest a while back with the theme of Green Hats between the Links and Luigi, so it's possible they didn't want Link and Toon Link on the same team against Luigi due to how similar that would have been to the previous conquest. As for everybody else's placement, I don't know.

 

[abx]

Nothing. That's uncommon, but not entirely new. During "Counter Intuitive" or the sword themed conquest the team distribution has been quite arbitrary as well.

EDIT: See here for reference: http://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_conquests_(SSB4-3DS)

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

And the Results Are:

On the 3DS:

Verdant in Victory: August21st August 28th
Team Palutena Wins with 55% in the whole World, 53% in the Americas, 54% in Europe and Oceania, and 57% in Asia.
Team Link Lose with 45% in the whole World, 47% in the Americas, 46% in Europe and Oceania, and 43% in Asia.

I got 1000 gold for 80 points

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New Conquest!
August 28th September 4th.

Fighting Fire with Fire

Red Team: Team Charizard:
Blue Team: Team Fox:
Green Team: Team Roy:

 

[1FC0]

Red > Blue > Green I think.

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

Is 20 still not low enough? I may have expressed concern about purposefully losing Conquest battles, but now I appreciate your efforts in finding the minimum needed number, 1FC0, for fellow Conquerors can start planning out how often they'll have to engage in Conquest battles before potentially achieving Custom Equipment prizes, especially with school being back in session for some of us now. As much as I'd like to sacrifice my own contributed points, despite being done with the entire Challenge Board in both the 3DS and even the Wii U versions, I'm... somehow too chicken to risk purposefully losing out on points for these Conquests to find the minimum amount. I thank you for being brave enough to test for that minimum amount. Hopefully my predicted estimate of 20 points is enough, and if not... 25??? These guesses I've been trying thus far are conservative amounts, and if 25's wrong too, then 30?? Until we find that number, I would like to keep guessing with these conservative "increase by 5 each time" amounts.

And now back to the regularly scheduled program:

Wii U Results:

Team Link got 2nd place with 48% in the World, 48% in the Americas, 47% in Europe & Oceania, and 45% in Asia. # of Points I've given to this team was 53 on the Wii U version and 83 on the 3DS version.
Team Palutena got 1st place with 52% in the World, 52% in the Americas, 53% in Europe & Oceania, and 55% in Asia.
Prize for 2nd was 1000G

It was as I called from the beginning of last week: Bowser & Mac alone were going to win it, and as the results show, they did.

*Has come back from repping in the Wii U FG FFA room against a ZSS, Mewtwo, and an Ike (!). I went to Sudden Death with the Ike, who got 1st after stuffing my run-up grab with Side B, leaving me with 8 points in 2nd place*

*Has also come back from repping in the 3DS FG FFA room against 2 Ikes (!!) and a Peach. Again, I end up in Sudden Death against an Ike, but Peach was there too. As soon as I SH NAired upon the word GO, I went after Peach (she was the closest to me when SD started) with a Dash Attack after she whiffed something and took her out. I then immediately ran up to the Ike, intending to grab him, which I did when he put up his shield. I got the throw, but instead of UThrowing like I was supposed to, I FThrown him out of sheer muscle memory from other characters, which even near the edge at 300%, doesn't KO him. Despite following him off-stage to attempt to secure the stock, he somehow dodged me and even spooked me with his Up B, expecting myself to get spiked, but didn't, yet I did not recognize it fast enough to return to the stage, and again took 2nd place with 8 points.*

GGs to both Ikes that I went to Sudden Death with.

"My blood... is on FIYAHHHH!!" - Ariana Grande Shami, Sin & Punishment 2: Star Successor. Despite really wanting to use that line due to sheer comedic ham values, I'm actually not even close to being fired up in that sense, for I commended 1 of the 2 Ikes that have cleverly bested me during Sudden Death with a hearty "GreatGame!" (3DS doesn't let me do that) before leaving.

Before I continue on, I just want to say that if any of you have yet to have the privilege to do so, I'd HIGHLY recommend checking out S&P2:SS, for it's one of Treasure's greatest 3rd person shooters in recent years, especially once it comes out on the Wii U's Virtual Console. While its story is not as nonsensically haphazard as S&P1's, it sensically flows better by comparison, and S&P2's gameplay definitely improves upon S&P1's, ESPECIALLY if you use the Wiimote + Nunchuk controller setup and make the Melee button your Minus button. Also, I don't believe I'm really spoiling anything by saying this, but as a tip to make your experience easier, I'd highly recommend starting on Easy and beating that twice with Isa and Kachi seperately, then beating it on Normal with them together, and THEN beating it on Hard with them together again.... alternatively. As someone who tried to run through it on Hard first thing with Isa alone, it tore my heart to have thrown in the towel on the 2nd to last boss of the last stage during that 1st-thing Hard mode solo Isa run...
"BACK TO ADVENTURE!" </Stuffwell, Mario & Luigi 2: Partners in Time>

*Cue Nebulox [Orion Tsang] (aka Boss Exg5) from the S&P2:SS OST*

When's ? Last week! When's ? THIS week at last! :D As both the last member of the DLC Hype Train and the absolute last character (outside of the 3 Mii types) to have been in a Conquest thus far, he's got a big burden on his shoulders to carry, especially after Mewtwo having lost twice (and once on the Wii U). Thankfully, he's got a fellow FG FFA & Teams favorite, Ike, on his side to help him out with that. Judging from my 1st 2 FG FFA sessions tonight alone, the case for Team Roy & Ike winning this week is already looking convincingly strong. Seeing as how I mained Roy in both Melee & Project M, I will likely run just him this week, though I MIGHT switch it up with Ike at some point.

Zard and Falcon will be the biggest threats here for Team Roy, considering Falcon's sheer historic frequency and Zard's overall buffs this patch. Fellow DLC Hype Train member Lucas had defeated Falcon before in his debut week with Ness & Mewtwo on his side, so it's very possible for Roy to do so as well, especially with Ike backing him up.

Fox and Falco will probably be as far in the background as Zelda & Sheik were 2 weeks ago.

Seeing as how I've lost to 2 seperate Ikes in 2 Sudden Deaths, my blood may not necessarily be on fire, but in a way, I'm most certainly fired up for the next time I'll likely have a run-in with an Ike this week. I'm personally really hoping to run into a Roy Koopa and a Marth dressed as Roy during this week for that "Oh SNAPZ, it's the Battle of the Roys!1" factor. X3

*Goes and celebrates R. Mika's "I'm going to be in SF5!" status by repping her in SFA3 with X-Ism (Standing LK/MK xx QCB+LK or QCF QCF+Any K super --> Mash P is love) and playing as Cerebella in Skullgirls 2nd Encore using the R. Mika outfit*

 

[abx]

I've contributed 41 points for Team Palutena and got 1000 gold. I'm sure that I got costumization equipment for less points before. I'm not even sure if there's something like a minimum number.

Nevermind, I made a mistake. I supported the other team.

 

[1FC0]

Is 20 still not low enough? I may have expressed concern about purposefully losing Conquest battles, but now I appreciate your efforts in finding the minimum needed number, 1FC0, for fellow Conquerors can start planning out how often they'll have to engage in Conquest battles before potentially achieving Custom Equipment prizes, especially with school being back in session for some of us now. As much as I'd like to sacrifice my own contributed points, despite being done with the entire Challenge Board in both the 3DS and even the Wii U versions, I'm... somehow too chicken to risk purposefully losing out on points for these Conquests to find the minimum amount. I thank you for being brave enough to test for that minimum amount. Hopefully my predicted estimate of 20 points is enough, and if not... 25??? These guesses I've been trying thus far are conservative amounts, and if 25's wrong too, then 30?? Until we find that number, I would like to keep guessing with these conservative "increase by 5 each time" amounts.

Unfortunately I choose the wrong team, so I will need to try again. I have a bit of doubt between Fox and Falcon but I am going to try Falcon since I think that team has more chance to win.

BTW Are there multiple losing prices too?

 

[Nexin]

Since I never posted my predictions or team for the last conquest, I'll do that first. Even though I'll always support a team with Palutena on it, I honestly did not have that much faith in her. She is the biggest carry in the game, so I assumed that even Little Mac would struggle to pull her wait against the likes of Link. I need to put more faith in her… teammates.

Anyways, we best prepare to face the Captain Falcon army soon. Obviously Captain Falcon is going to be the most seen character online, but his partner Charizard is, at least in my experience, the least seen of the characters online for this conquest so it should be interesting to see how that affects the results. Fox and Falco are both somewhat common, though they don't tend to appear as often as Captain Falcon. Finally, while Roy is still pretty popular, the DLC hype has already ended; however, he also has Ike on his team, who I've been finding online way too often.

Team Charizard is probably going to win this one, and second place could potentially go either way. I'm going to support Team Roy because Ike used to be my secondary and I have been trying to relearn him over the past few days.

 

[1FC0]

Yeah I have been seeing a lot of Falcons today, I already thought that they would win but now I am more certain.

 

[IsmaR]

It boils down to Ike vs Falcon, with the rest being fodder. Falcon and Charizard seem most likely, though I wouldn't count out Roy's our boy hype to even things out.

I don't get why spacies are in this at all, considering they only have a single fire move (and I guess taunt in Fox's case) that's pretty much only used for recovery. I feel as if they missed out on including the following characters with more than one fiery move:

 

[Nexin]

Also, I just checked to conquest results. I scored 22 points for Team Palutena and still got the equipment. You probably just have to score over 20 points for the prize.

 

[1FC0]

Also, I just checked to conquest results. I scored 22 points for Team Palutena and still got the equipment. You probably just have to score over 20 points for the prize.

I have exactly 20 points now and I am going to see if that is enough.

Edit: If Team Charizard wins, that is.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

And the Results Are:

On the 3DS:

Fightning Fire with Fire: August21st September 4th
Team Roy Wins with 42% in the whole World and 44% in Asia, But 39% in the Americas, 41% in Europe and Oceania.
Team Charizard Second with 39% in the whole World and 38% in Asia, But 40% in the Americas, 42% in Europe and Oceania.
Team Fox Lose with 19% in the whole World and 18% in Asia, But 21% in the Americas, 17% in Europe and Oceania.

I got 1000 gold for 40 points to Team Charizard

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New Conquest!
September 4th September 11th.

White Party

Red Team: White Clothes:
Blue Team: White Bodies:

Eyebrow raising title aside, Anyone else think this is a DLC vs DLC conquest?
I'm personally torn between how much I main and and how much I support and not
Splooshy who's side are you on? I gotta know!

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

*Cue "For The Sake of Omega Land" from the Advance Wars: Dual Strike OST*

Thanks to Nexin's contribution, we have finally figured out a safe number zone for being qualified for the Custom Equipment prize, which could either be 20+ or 21+. 22 is definitely certain. However, if 1FC0's solid 20 works, then that will be the key number that adds just a little bit of leniency. If not, then it's likely going to be 21. With this fact in mind, if one were to make like me and visit the FG FFA room for Conquest point gathering only 1 time a day, then the amount of days likely needed would be 2-3 days if one scores 10+ points for being in 1st, 3-4 days if one consistently comes in 2nd place for 7-9-ish points, 4-5 days if one consistently comes in 3rd place for 4-6-ish points, and possibly all 7 days if one gets 4th place twice within 1 week for 1-3 points each.
The crazy fact I've found out some time ago is that it's possible to do so poorly, that you may not even score ANY points for a side (not even 1!). If that somehow happens, then if you stick with the same character/team for the next battle, said next battle will be ANOTHER Conquest point gathering attempt, essentially giving you a 2nd chance in the same single day and/or 16 hour period.

1FC0, if your 20 points were for the 3DS version, I'm afraid that you may not be able to confirm the exact minimum number for us this week.
HOWEVER, if your 20 points were for the Wii U version...

*Cue KOY - White Messenger (Karaoke) (aka, the Shinigami no Ballad ED)*
Wii U Results:

& got 3rd place with 19% in the World, 20% in the Americas, 19% in Europe & Oceania, and 17% in Japan (I guess only the 3DS version accounts for the rest of Asia ._.).
& got 2nd place with 39% in the World, 38% in the Americas, 38% in Europe & Oceania, and 55% in Japan. # of Points I've given to this team was 50 on the Wii U version and 67 on the 3DS version.
& got 1st place with 42% in the World, 42% in the Americas, 43% in Europe & Oceania, and 40% in Asia.

Prize for 2nd on the Wii U version was 1000G.
Prize for 1st on the 3DS version was an Antileap Sword with +87 Attack and -4 Defense. While its stats are very impressive, the effect that which is lowering the height of your 2nd+ jumps is a hefty price to pay. For ease of use, if you really want to run this, try it on or . MAYBE or if you're a little more confident about your recovery. For any other sword wielder, it's user beware.

Much like Mewtwo, though in reverse, Roy & Ike may have won the 3DS side, but lost the Wii U side. It's a bit too soon to determine how stronk of a DLC Teammate Roy may be, but I'm having higher hopes for him than I am for Mewtwo at this point. Maybe I myself should start repping Mewtwo more often, since folks are putting him as far low on the tier list as Full Suit Samus and Defaultena...

*Has come back from repping in the Wii U FG FFA room against a , , and ... someone who I can't seem to remember, despite having saved the replay (My brother Speeds owns the Wii U, not me, and that's in his room, which I don't share with him, so as of the making of this post, I'm locked out of it until the next day), and scored 8 points in 2nd place, due to Zelda tearin' it up and Ganondorf Side B-ing folks off-stage (myself included, because he had good timing to Side B me when my Tatsu didn't have the leg blocking his way).*

*Has also come back from repping in the 3DS FG FFA room against a , , and (!), and despite smuggling in True DPs, I ended up taking 3rd place with 5 points, while 1st place went to Link, while 4th went to the Bowser and 2nd place went to --*

<Dr. Robotnik> "NO WAY! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!"
*Rage counterpicks to for Round 2* <Dr. Robotnik> "GET A LOAD OF THIS!!" *Is then met with , who I end up tying with for 3rd place*
*THEN rage counterpicks to for Round 3* <Dr. Robotnik> "FULL SYSTEMS, FULL POWER!" *Proceeds to at LEAST beat the Round 1 Jr player, who for Round 3 went *

<Dr. Robotnik> "HE'S NOT GONNA GET AWAY WITH THIS!"

*Then continues on for a number of rounds as the Koopalings with that 1st Round Jr player, who despite having stuck around for 4 rounds after my Ludwig came out, never actually picked Jr since that 1st round, and instead went for Mario, then Bowser for 2 rounds, and then Charizard.* I straight up won 1st place against his Mario & Bowser (once for 1st. 2nd round he went Bowser, I at least beat him), and I at least beat his Charizard. After that, I left, due to suspecting that he wasn't going to bring out his Jr.

<Dr. Robotnik> "Is this it?"

He may not have brought out his Jr, but hopefully he noticed the power of Side B Jump Cancels, the fact that if you're hit after using Up B with a strong attack, pressing R (Shield button) will get you back the Clown Car, and that reflected Mechas can be fearlessly driven through with Side B, among other pieces of tech. Showcasing such tech to any Jrs I run into is what I still adore doing.

<Stuffwell> "BACK TO ADVENTURE!"

*Cue White Field ~ Snow Mountain Stage from the Street Fighter EX2 Plus OST*

While I should've seen this coming at some point, I'm somehow earnestly surprised that 2 members of the DLC Hype Train will be squaring off against each other this week.

Ryu's fresh off of his win over Luigi & Meta Knight, currently making him one of the storngest members of the DLC Hype Train alongside Lucas, but as Nexin pointed out earlier, it's been weeks since the DLC crew have come out, and the shiny newness of them seem to have worn off.
At least Dr. Mario's fresh off of his tag-along victory with his better-recovering plumber self, who I MIGHT rep at some point this week.
I'm not sure how much Conquest-winning power Pit wields, but I'm certain it's more than WFT, who, while I myself ADORE repping (and AceStarThe3rd and TK Breezy, among others), seems to keep getting put on teams that I end up NOT supporting. ONE of these days, I'll get to make errybody in da room lose their balance to the point of WOBBLING for one of these Conquests.

Of the White Bodies team, the members to look out for will be the ROB Squad and fellow DLC Hype Train member Mewtwo, who has been on a losing streak as of late.

*Cue Good Fighter (2nd Edit) from the Street Fighter 3: 2nd Impact OST* *Also cue Squeak Squad's Fighter Kirby's standing stance.... If I could find that gif somewhere out there on the internets *

Of the 2 DLC Hype Train members, 's who I'll be repping most of all this week, with a possible appearance from . After seeing the Japan-located X-Mania 3v3 Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo tournament at the Mikado arcade on UltraChenTV's English Live Re-stream last week (which for any ST fans out there, it's one tournament I'd highly recommend viewing), both my interest & possibly performance with Ryu in Sm4sh has been reinvigorated.

 

[1FC0]

I have only the 3DS version, so I lost this one =(
Maybe if there are multiple second prizes though, are there?

This conquest has R.O.B. so I am not going to test now. I am going to try to support R.O.B. with a FG 1v1 win a day.

 

[Nexin]

Well, my prediction was correct for the Wii U, and the team I supported won one on 3ds, which is what I mainly play For Glory on, so I guess I'm the winner… yay.

Anyways, Ryu and the White Clothes are going to body the White Bodies! In all seriousness, I'm not going to try and work out which team statistically has a better chance of winning. I predicted that my secondary Palutena would lose two conquests ago and yet her team ended up winning. This time my main is a part of the conquest, so I'm just going to trust that his team is going to win.

If you haven't figured out which team I'm supporting by now, then I'm not going to tell you.

I have only the 3DS version, so I lost this one =(
Maybe if there are multiple second prizes though, are there?

This conquest has R.O.B. so I am not going to test now. I am going to try to support R.O.B. with a FG 1v1 win a day.

You just gave me an idea. If the next conquest is between two characters or teams, and there is a character on both teams that we both know how to play, I'll help you out by supporting the opposing team. That way if you end up supporting the losing team again we can just use my results.

Since my main is also a part of this conquest, I'm not going to test it either. Reaching 20 points with my favorite character would mean that I wouldn't be able to play him for the rest of the conquest, so I'm just going to try to win.

 

[1FC0]

You just gave me an idea. If the next conquest is between two characters or teams, and there is a character on both teams that we both know how to play, I'll help you out by supporting the opposing team. That way if you end up supporting the losing team again we can just use my results.

Since my main is also a part of this conquest, I'm not going to test it either. Reaching 20 points with my favorite character would mean that I wouldn't be able to play him for the rest of the conquest, so I'm just going to try to win.

OK next time that R.O.B. is not in a conquest and you want to test this out then just post what team that you are going to support with 20 points and then I will pick one of the team(s) that you did not pick to support with 20 points.

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

Throughout these Conquests thus far, I've not seen any other 2nd or even 3rd place prizes, other than varying amount of Gold that seems tied to the amount of points you've earned for a character/team during the week, as my documented earnings thus far have shown. Until someone can step forward with differing results, it's unfortunate that I'll have to state that 1st Place nets you Custom Equipment at 20+ or 21+ points (22+ is concrete certain), while 2nd or 3rd Place nets you Gold, which can be awarded to even 1st Place finishers if 19 or less points are earned for a side (which as stated before, CAN be reduced by contributing points to another team). Basically, it's either Custom Equipment for 1st with 20/21/22+ points or varying amounts of Gold for anything else.

I greatly appreciate the both of you for wanting to test out the 20 during the next Conquest, especially since the reported 22 is such a breakthrough for us all. So close are we to finding that minimum number, it could be 1 or 2 away.

As for myself, I may somehow be too cowardly to try for 20 myself generally, despite having cleared out the entirety of the Challenge Boards on both the Wii U & 3DS versions, but at least I can use the FG FFA room method to try to gather as many points as possible to see not only whether or not 85 or 90 or even 100 points can be achieved in the span of a week (I believe my personal best on the 3DS was 83, as I've reported earlier on this page), but also if the Custom Equipment earned for the winning side can have its stats boosted any further than what I've been able to earn thus far. As of late, the reported stats on the Custom Equipment have been surprisingly high, and if any awarded Equipment can reach 90 plus...

For me now, it's time for the next FG FFA Conquest battle. Hopefully I'll remember to Weak/Strong DTilt\UTilt xx Special folks more often this time....

 

[Nexin]

Throughout these Conquests thus far, I've not seen any other 2nd or even 3rd place prizes, other than varying amount of Gold that seems tied to the amount of points you've earned for a character/team during the week, as my documented earnings thus far have shown. Until someone can step forward with differing results, it's unfortunate that I'll have to state that 1st Place nets you Custom Equipment at 20+ or 21+ points (22+ is concrete certain), while 2nd or 3rd Place nets you Gold, which can be awarded to even 1st Place finishers if 19 or less points are earned for a side (which as stated before, CAN be reduced by contributing points to another team). Basically, it's either Custom Equipment for 1st with 20/21/22+ points or varying amounts of Gold for anything else.

I greatly appreciate the both of you for wanting to test out the 20 during the next Conquest, especially since the reported 22 is such a breakthrough for us all. So close are we to finding that minimum number, it could be 1 or 2 away.

As for myself, I may somehow be too cowardly to try for 20 myself generally, despite having cleared out the entirety of the Challenge Boards on both the Wii U & 3DS versions, but at least I can use the FG FFA room method to try to gather as many points as possible to see not only whether or not 85 or 90 or even 100 points can be achieved in the span of a week (I believe my personal best on the 3DS was 83, as I've reported earlier on this page), but also if the Custom Equipment earned for the winning side can have its stats boosted any further than what I've been able to earn thus far. As of late, the reported stats on the Custom Equipment have been surprisingly high, and if any awarded Equipment can reach 90 plus...

For me now, it's time for the next FG FFA Conquest battle. Hopefully I'll remember to Weak/Strong DTilt\UTilt xx Special folks more often this time....

No worries. Right now I'm mainly hoping that the next conquest consists of two teams so we can guarantee results. If it is between three, then there is still a chance that neither 1FCO nor myself will have supported the winning team in the end.

If anybody else would be willing to help us out if that happens, I'd greatly appreciate it.

 

[abx]

I can jump in and aim for 20 points on 3DS. I was going to rep Wii Fit's team anyway. So you can still go and aim for 20 points for yourself.

 

[1FC0]

Ugh I am in banland now so I could not conquest today.

BTW sometimes I get 7 points in FG 1v1. I thought that 6 was the max? Do you maybe get a point from 2-stocking people there?

 

[abx]

I believe so. In FFA the total number depends on kills as well.

 

[1FC0]

I believe so. In FFA the total number depends on kills as well.

Yeah I think so too but that means only 6 points. 2 for killing, and 4 for winning. But why do I sometimes get 7 points in a single FG 1v1 match? I have had this multiple times.

 

[abx]

Well, I guess that you get 5 points for winning and +1 for every kill and -1 kill for every KO you received, but I haven't paid attention to it.

 

[1FC0]

Can you win all the equipment conquest prizes in the 1-Player mode too? Or are they special?

 

[ChaikaBestGirl]

I'm disappointed in all the people who didn't play Ike

 

[abx]

No worries. Right now I'm mainly hoping that the next conquest consists of two teams so we can guarantee results. If it is between three, then there is still a chance that neither 1FCO nor myself will have supported the winning team in the end.

If anybody else would be willing to help us out if that happens, I'd greatly appreciate it.

I have achieved exactly 20 points for team white bodies.

 

[Nexin]

I appreciate it @ abx .

Anyways, there was a bit of an issue with my home wifi, so I am not able to do anything more for this conquest for now (I'm even using a different computer than normal just to post this). That should get cleared up this afternoon, but I wanted to let you guys know in case I'm unable to help next conquest for whatever reason.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

And the Results Are:


On the 3DS:


White Bodies: September 4th September 11th

White Clothes Win with 53% in the whole World, 58% in the Americas, 53% in Europe and Oceania But 47% in Asia.

White Bodies Lose with 47% in the whole World, 42% in the Americas, 47% in Europe and Oceania But 53% in Asia.

I got 1000 gold for 86 points to White Bodies


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New Conquest!

September 11th September 18th.


Happy 30th Anniversay


Red Team: Team Mario

Green Team: Team Luigi


Team Luigi for-a me. No question

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

I myself did run Ike during the 2nd to last Conquest... on the last day. XD It was shockingly easier to KO folks with him than it was with Roy, since I didn't have to be as upclose as him to maximize my damage & knockback on all of my moves. No need to tipper anything like Marth either. He's basically a stronger, slower Lucina. Even his recovery seems better than Roy's... Why don't I play as him more often-- *then remembers how frequently he shows up in FG Anywhere* Oh, right. He's one of the common ones like Lil' Mac, Ganondorf, Falcon, Ness, the Mario Brothers, (T)Links, and more.

The equipment earned in the Solo Areas CAN compare to the Conquest's prizes, IF you're 1. Doing Classic 9.0, 2. lasting long in Crazy Orders, 3. Doing All-Star on Hard (not as guaranteed of high quality as 9.0 or long Crazy Orders rounds), or 4. Achieving a high score in either Trophy Rush or Home Run Contest or Angry Birds-- er, Target Blast. Not sure about Amiibos, since I personally don't farm-battle them, neither with my personal involvement nor Amiibos fighting other Amiibos.

However, what these Conquests can provide easier than 9.0 Classic/long runs of Crazy Orders is a general certainty that the piece of Equipment earned from it will carry both a desirable effect and positive numbers that outweigh the negative numbers. However, considering that the 2nd to last Conquest's prize was an Antileap Sword, even that doesn't seem as guaranteed as it used to be.

Wii U Results:

Team White Clothes got 1st place with 55% in the World, 57% in the Americas, 54% in Europe & Oceania, and 49% in Japan. # of Points I've given to this team was 41 on the Wii U version and 66 on the 3DS version.

Team White Bodies got 2nd place with 45% in the World, 43% in the Americas, 46% in Europe & Oceania, and 51% in Japan.

Prize for 1st on the Wii U & 3DS versions was an Unharmed Speed Demon X Speed with +64 Speed and -31 Attack (3DS numbers. Wii U numbers have yet to be checked). It's so close to the 66 points, that I think the amount of points earned for the winning side might directly influence the strength of the earned Equipment. If that is the case, then to maximize Equipment stat gains, FG FFAs will be KEY in reliably earning high amounts of points needed to boost the eventual strength of any earned Equipment.

*Has come back from repping Bowser in the 3DS FG FFA room against a Sonic... and no one else. Throughout this match, I somehow had STRONG vibes of the USF4 Zangief/T.Hawk/Hakan/Hugo/other grapplers VS Yun/Yang MU, in that Yun & Yang struggle greatly against grapplers, due to needing to approach in order to deal damage, which does half of the grapplers' work in approaching FOR them. Any blockstrings that Yun & Yang end unsafely (as in, ending one with a move that's minus on block, which means that the blocking grappler recovers from blockstun faster than Yun & Yang can recover from using certain moves) will likely result in a high-damaging command throw for their trouble, which their low health cannot let them brush off for long. Back in 3S, Yun & Yang OWNED grapplers due to Parries allowing them to freely approach them quite easily, even from the air, provided their Parrying timings are on point. With USF4 having removed Parrying, they now have to respect anti-airs and certain ground moves. 'Course, it only seems like this IF Sonic wants to approach, which luckily for me, throughout the whole match, he was. After scoring 2 KOs (one of which being quite clutch, I believe) and only falling out once ("Whoops! XD Eh heh. XD;" - My reaction when it happened), I scored 6 points in 1st place*

Said match has been uploaded in the U.S. region under the name "ChallengeDaSpins," which I often did early on.
"Gee, I'm sure glad I wasn't Duck Hunt when this Sanic showed up." - Seemingly any time I win against a Sonic when I'm not DH.

Before continuing, I just want to say that I LOVE his KO-ing DTilt that does high damage at low percents, and the fact that he can crawl around before & after using it! I even ducked under Sonic's Neutral B with it! :O


Now then, it seems like the original SMB1 cast has been assembled, just in time for the upcoming release of Super Mario Maker. :D Sorry Yoshi fans, but he wasn't around during the 80's. Earliest he was around was 1990 in the titular Yoshi for the NES, which I'm quite the fan of, though my absolute favorite of the Yoshi puzzlers is EASILY Yoshi's Cookie, the metagame for which I've gone surprisingly in-depth about here. Much like so many of the posts I make around here, it's a very long read.

As previous Conquests have shown many times over, Bowser has major Conquest-winning powers, as does Mario. Strangely, despite Luigi being able to rack up lots of damage easily off of a grab into DThrow, he doesn't seem to have too much vote power, though this week could change that. While Peach may have soundly defeated Olimar, Zelda, and Palutena some time ago, her track record outside of those 2 victories doesn't look too good either. Would her status as a "highly technical" and "hard-to-play" character have anything to do with that?

If you ask me, Mario & Bowser at the Olympic Games will be the folks to look for during this week.

However, this week, I have good news for abx & 1FC0 and even Nexin, who for the last few weeks have been laying down their 3DSes searching for the minimum number:

*Cue Prologue of a Live [Live A Live] by takehiro from the End of justice ~Heterodoxy Seeker~ remix album for Squaresoft's Live A Live for the SNES (Japan only)*

I'll be the 3rd or possibly 4th ally who will accompany you two or even three on this search! To arms, system!

As I've stated at least twice now, the Challenge Boards on both my Wii U & 3DS copies have been completely cleared, putting me in a prime position to lay down my systems for this search. I know not what sides you three will be taking and what numbers you all will aim for, so for now, while it's still Day 1, until further notice, I'll declare in blue that I'll be siding with the Green Team, and aiming for 20 for the Wii U and 21 for the 3DS, so as to cover both number sides. If I can reach those numbers, then we can have the entirety of the Green Team covered. Such is the power of having both versions. If we agree and support this approach of mine, then that will leave you three with Team Mario & Peach for 20 and 21 points separately. The 3rd could be a backup for me if I somehow fail to reach one of the point goals.

I've only earned 6 points for Team Luigi & Bowser on the 3DS version so far. As it is still Day 1, there most certainly is time for me to switch sides if absolutely necessary.

 

[1FC0]

I'll be siding with the Green Team, and aiming for 20 for the Wii U and 21 for the 3DS, so as to cover both number sides.

Then I am going to aim for 20 points with Team Mario on the 3DS.

But sicne I am in Banland people tend to be much better and I may not find someone to play against every day. Even with my main R.O.B. I got only 20 points. I am not good with any of the 4 characters in the conquest now, so I may not be able to even get 4 points.

So yeah bad timing to get in Banland, but I am going to try.

Edit: Already got my first 6 points! It was some nooby campy spammy D3 who also was a sore loser who kept rematching me and left immediately after winning for the first time. And while typing this I got paired against him again so it was not because he stopped playing, he just wanted to stop playing against me because he won once, after getting owned many times today and probably even more times yesterday. Salty much? Haha!
Luckily for me though, he was bad enough to be beaten by my Mario and unlike yesterday where he SD'ed immediately on second stock in the conquest match thus giving me only 5 points, today he pushed through and gave me 6 points! So thanks, salty D3! I would reward him with more salt but when he got paired up against me he immediately left again.

 

[abx]

I got exactly 20 points for Team Luigi on the 3DS. By accident. Will keep it til friday.

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

What I currently have thus far that I can confidently state in red:

17 points on the 3DS version (22 points for Green Team - 5 points for Red Team = 17).
A mere 2 points on the Wii U version for the Green Team (A hyper-defensive AND in the same FG FFA room? <T.T. the Clock> "Unlucky!").

I've declared my earlier statement in blue to account for any possible events that could affect that. With abx's 20 points for the Green Team on the 3DS version, combined with my Wii U's measly 2 points for Green Team, that version will now be seeing an alliance switch!

While my 3DS version's target will still be 21 points for the Green Team, the Wii U version's new target will be 21 points for the Red Team (I'm confident enough to state these in red now).

It's Day 3. While I'm potentially 1 to 2 matches away from reaching 21 on the 3DS version (my next Point Gathering attempt on the 3DS version is 5 hours later (as of the making of this post), I'll be using the FG 1v1 room, considering its low points payouts (Just take off 1 stock from the opponent and then lose the match for 2 points, right?)), the Wii U version will be needing 2 to 3 days to get close to 21 (today included).

EDIT: Mini-Update: My 3DS copy is now at 19 points for the Green Team, for I did earn 2 points from the FG 1v1 room for KO-ing my opponent once before losing the match. It was rather fitting that it'd be a ZSS that would soundly bop my Bowser, to the point that I ALMOST got 2-stocked. What I merely wanted was 1 KO, which I thankfully did clutch out before losing. If the next point gathering attempt goes as well as my last Conquest battle did, then I SHOULD be able to have 21 points for the Green Team on the 3DS at around noon where I live. Here's to hoping that will go as planned...

EDIT 2: Update: 21 points get for the Green Team on 3DS! I'll be tightly hanging onto this until Thursday night (where I live).

As for the Wii U version, I may have earned 6 points for the Red Team yesterday, but with having earned 2 points for the Green Team earlier, what I actually have is 4 points for the Red Team. Today & tomorrow's FG FFA runs should get me close to 21, leaving me with potentially 1 or 2 days to micro-gain/lose points to reach 21 there.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

And the Results Are:

On the 3DS:

Happy 30th Anniversary: September 11th September 18th

Team Mario Wins with 54% in the whole World, 55% in the Americas, 53% in Asia, But 49% in Europe and Oceania.
Team Luigi Loses with 46% in the whole World, 45% in the Americas, 47% in Asia, But 51% in Europe and Oceania.

The prize was Fire Flower Overalls for 46 points to the losing team.

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New Conquest!
September 18th September 25th
Making the Cut
Red Team: Final Cutter
Blue Team: Aether
Green Team: Back Slash

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

Wii U Results:

Team Mario got 1st place with 55% in the World, 56% in the Americas, 52% in Europe & Oceania, and 54% in Japan. # of Points I've given to this team was 16 on the Wii U version and 5 on the 3DS version. Total # of points given on Wii U to this Team was 14.

Prize for 1st on the Wii U version was 10,000g. I'll be honest with y'all, I've been more of a Doc kind of guy since the Melee days, and my Peach isn't too good either (Yet I don't believe her to be as complicated as others seem to see her as, though that's probably because I've played fighters like Guilty Gear, Blazblue, and Melty Blood, where seemingly every single character was complex enough to the point that if you tried to play 2+ characters, you essentially had to learn 2+ entire games within the same fighter. I've mained Anji, Baiken, and Bridget in GG (pre-Xrd), and secondaried Jam, Robo-Ky, May, and Potemkin in GG (again, pre-Xrd) as well, so going by my last sentence, you could say that I've had learned 7+ entire games, 3 of which with more focus than others.)

Team Luigi got 2nd place with 45% in the World, 44% in the Americas, 48% in Europe & Oceania, and 46% in Japan. # of Points I've given to this team was 2 on the Wii U version and 26 on the 3DS version. Total # of points given on 3DS to this Team was 21.

Prize for 2nd on the 3DS version was a Fire Flower Overalls with +62 Defense and -32 Speed. Well that's a first: An Equipment Prize in 2nd place with 21 points... Wait a minute, if someone managed to score 20 points for the Green Team to help confirm whether or not the Overalls dropped... Could our search for the minimum number be over at last?

If it's not yet over, then perhaps now it is my turn to share in the struggle that which abx, 1FC0, and even Nexin have had to endure for weeks before my arrival on this front. Hopefully you 3 (and possibly someone else) have had more fruitful results than I have this week.


*Looks at the Title & Contestants of this Conquest, and bumps up "Slash" from the Castlevania JUDGMENT OST on the Surround Castle in response* Say, it might just be me, but after firing up Castlevania Judgment for the Wii and comparing it to the upcoming Pokken Tournament, I cannot help but believe that Pokken MIGHT be the closest that we'll get to a spiritual sequel to Judgment.... How can I make this claim? Well...

Movement style DOES seem reminiscent of Kidou Sensei Gundam: Extreme VS Full Boost, Power Stone 1 & 2, and the Naruto 3D fighters, but Tekken's horizontally focused perspective is completely absent (no wavedashing movements required for max speed?). However, there is a jump button, there's full free-flowing 3D movement on the battlefield, the size of which can actually affect how matchups can go, and there are meter-building items lying around on the ground that are NOT random in how they come about (it's directly related to the action at hand, like Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix's colored Gems! (AKA the Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo... fighter.)).

Despite having 3 to 4 main attack buttons, legit combos did exist in Judgment, like Eric Lecarde's Toward+Attack string (4 part) xx Toward Special xx Unblockable Attack (delay this until the opponent gets back up, though you'll need to anticipate the opponent's wakeup option to reliably land the Unblockable Attack) LINKED INTO Charged Special xx Sub-Weapon (Hearts are required to use this, and the amount of them depends on which Sub-Weapon you picked (up), like Holy Water's 3 Hearts) and his Neutral A string (3 part) xx Jump Cancel into Air A xx Air Special (a 2 parter) xx Sub-Weapon. I legit wonder if this type of notation is how we'll be doing juggles, since that's what the main form of combos in 3D fighters usually is. The items in question in Judgment don't come from hitting the opponent, but rather objects like boxes, statues, & candles littered throughout the stages, which can randomly contain Hearts, Other Sub-Weapons, the II & III symbols that can allow you to throw out your S-W 2 to 3 times in a row, and even food for healing. Some characters can interact with the statues differently, like picking it up & flinging at the opponent, absorbing it for extra damage on the next attack or two, or placing a trap on it that will activate if the opponent draws near it. I don't think Pokken will have this feature, but I'll be surprised if it does. The above paragraph about the movement style DOES apply to Judgment, which is as free-form as Power Stone 1 & 2, and like PS 1 & 2 as well, there's a Jump button and multiple arena types (Ringouts DO exist, depending on where you go), which DO come with *GASP!* Hazard Switches to turn OFF stage hazards, ala Playstation All-Stars!

ANYWAYS!

Current points so far: 1 point with Ike for the Wii U version (I'd had the misfortune of running into a surprisingly good room, most notably with a Mario FLUDDing me at a clutch time during my Up B while I was recovering, and a Jigglypuff that swooced right in for the Rest while I was Up B-ing someone else entirely on-stage after using all my jumps. I gave them the "GreatGame!" tag afterwards before having to leave early).

10 points with Kirby for the 3DS version (Look for "OffStageCleanUps" in the U.S. FG FFA area for this replay).

I'm REALLY not sure who's going to be taking this, considering their rather strong showings thus far. I suspect that Top 2 is going to be Kirby & Ike, judging from their recent results (& buffs!). Shulk's buffed UAir range and Back Slash's start-up speed-up are very nice additions to him, and I at least fought one earlier that was tearin' it up during my 2nd Round on the 3DS version against a Bowser, a Charizard, and my Trainer.

So yeah, for now, I'll be repping Kirby on the 3DS, and possibly switching to Shulk on the Wii U. Depending on whether or not anyone comes forward with their findings from the last Conquest, I'll continue shooting for 20/21 points (possibly 20 instead, IF the last Conquest is to be trusted) in search of that minimum number.

 

[Nexin]

I wasnt able to help out last conquest due to the internet issues I mentioned earluer, but this week I definitely can, especially considering that my former secondary Ike is a part of this.

I'll be harassing some of my friends while I'm at college today so I can get some practice with him before the real thing.

 

[TaRtOoN-Hand94]

So yeah, for now, I'll be repping Kirby on the 3DS, and possibly switching to Shulk on the Wii U. Depending on whether or not anyone comes forward with their findings from the last Conquest, I'll continue shooting for 20/21 points (possibly 20 instead, IF the last Conquest is to be trusted) in search of that minimum number.

I'm repping Shulk on 3DS for this Conquest

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

It's a good thing I said possibly and didn't use red text on that statement, so I can instead switch to Kirby on the Wii U version too, just so we can cover all the bases.
21 points for the Wii U, and 20 points for the 3DS (I'm already halfway there.) are what I'm aiming for this week.

I am down with you repping Shulk, Tartoon. I myself would've repped him if it weren't for (Orange) Kirby being here for this week (and me only having 1 point towards Ike...), presenting me with a chance at copying his Monado Arts, one of the absolute BEST abilities that Kirby could possibly take from anyone. The sheer amount of mo~e that which is generated by his voice during the Art activations is so stronk (<Hashira Itaru (aka Daru from Steins;Gate)> "MoeMoe, KYUUN~! 8D" </Character Song> = My general reaction. XD), as is the payoffs he gets from each of the Arts:

Buster = "Up Tilt City~" </Tyga, one of the countless "popular tune" rappers>

Speed = <SF3:NG/2I!Alex> "You can't escape!"

Jump = <Castlevania Judgment!Sypha Belnades> "FREEZE SOLID--" *Initiates part 2 of her Toward Special* "I'm not done." (I also find myself saying this whenever I press R as Jr when I'm strongly hit (NOT weakly, like DH's sourspot NAir) out of my Up B and successfully get back the Clown Car because of it. :>)

Shield = "NOTHING moves THE BLOB!" </X-Men The Konami-made 6-Player Arcade Game's The Blob>, and

Smash = <Castlevania Judgment!Eric Lecarde> "WITH A SINGLE STRIKE--" *Lands the Super* "I'll end this. Can you survive?"

 

[IsmaR]

I'll be on Team Shulk for Wii U. Have yet to decide for 3DS, though usually I go and let random decide.

 

[Splooshi Splashy]

*Cue FF13-1's Battle Results Theme*

20 points for Kirby on the 3DS get!

... Which I actually did already get by the 2nd day of this Conquest in the FG FFA room, due to 2 1st place finishes netting me 10 points each in 2 days. *Sheepishly smiles* If you want to see the 2nd battle, look in the U.S. 3DS FG FFA section for the name "UpB-CideDIverted". I'm personally quite proud of this one, 'cus not only did I get to pick on a non-Side B Jump Cancelling Jr (one of my favorite kinds of opponents to fight and even try to showcase tech to, no matter who I happen to be when they show up, which is 50+% more often than what I actually want it to be (Can you PLEASE give me the Side B Jump Cancellers, FG Anywhere? They're such hype joys to challenge, and if they show up in the Wii U version, I want to directly add them to my Friends List. If in the 3DS version, I MIGHT have someone to give a shoutout to at the Player-Finder Thread again).), but the magic of proper DI seemed to have blessed me once more... The moves that proper DI can save us from astounds me still.

I've also gotten 21 points for Kirby on the Wii U as well.

Look for the replays, "OpportuneHammers" in the U.S. Wii U FG FFA section & "SafetyInChef&UpB" in the U.S. Wii U FG 1v1 section if you're curious. I MIGHT upload them onto my YT account...

The real question is whether or not he's going to win this, 'cus I honestly have no idea who's really going to be taking this one. I'm practically rolling the dice for this one and hoping it's Kirby, just for the sake of the minimum number search.