The Mach Rider For SSB4 Thread!

[Demna]

Not sure if joke.

Why would it be :D ? Captain Falcon alone isn't really enough

 

[Deleted member]

Why would it be :D ? Captain Falcon alone isn't really enough

Because Mach Rider is not an F-Zero character.

 

[Demna]

Because Mach Rider is not an F-Zero character.

The Mach Rider was a great influence on F-zero.However, I wasn't talking about the mach rider, I wanted F-zero characters in general.

 

[Deleted member]

The Mach Rider was a great influence on F-zero.However, I wasn't talking about the mach rider, I wanted F-zero characters in general.

Then you are in the wrong thread. This thread is for Mach Rider.
There's an F-Zero character thread available as well as individual ones for Goroh and Black Shadow.

 

[Demna]

Then you are in the wrong thread. This thread is for Mach Rider.
There's an F-Zero character thread available as well as individual ones for Goroh and Black Shadow.

I am aware of that. I'm just making a connection between F-zero and the MR and relating them to each other.

 

[Deleted member]

That's well and fine, as many of us have noticed the connection between the two series, but to say "we need another F-Zero character" when referring to Mach Rider is rather strange.

 

[Bowserlick]

A Mach Rider versus Captain Falcon would be more interesting than a Captain Falcon versus any other F-Zero racer for me. New series added and a different take on a racer. (Providing of course Mach Rider would have different specials, attacks, ect.)

 

[LaniusShrike]

It'd be fun to play an event match where you play Mach Racer and you race against a bunch of Warios on their bikes.

So, are people thinking alternate costume of the Rider as a scantily clad female?

 

[Deleted member]

A Mach Rider versus Captain Falcon would be more interesting than a Captain Falcon versus any other F-Zero racer for me. New series added and a different take on a racer. (Providing of course Mach Rider would have different specials, attacks, ect.)

And Mach will show Falcon that real drivers use their guns.

 

[CombustingFetus]

I always have and always will support Mach Rider for Smash. He just oozes potential.

I'm also a fan of motorcycles, those are badass or something.

 

[Demna]

That's well and fine, as many of us have noticed the connection between the two series, but to say "we need another F-Zero character" when referring to Mach Rider is rather strange.

Not every single comment has to be a 100% legitimate comment regarding the topic
We can always briefly talk about related material to the topic

 

[Deleted member]

I know that, but once again, referring to Mach Rider as an F-Zero character is strange.

 

[Demna]

I know that, but once again, referring to Mach Rider as an F-Zero character is strange.

I didn't mean to label MR as an F-Zero character. My first comment might have been ambiugous.

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm okay with Mach Rider's inclusion, but I don't really care 'bout him.

 

[Oasis_S]

I wonder how fair it is to even say Falcon and Rider are similar... I KNOW I HAVE BEFORE, but aside from general appearance (blue, helmet, shoulder pads) and the fact that they both "go really fast," they're not all that similar. I mean, Mach Rider is not a RACER. He's not flashy and flamboyant. They're from completely different worlds. If Sakurai REALLY WANTED TO GET MACH RIDER INTO CHARACTER, he'd have a more gritty and practical fighting style.

Just with a lot of exploding and reforming. Yeah. Practical.

 

[ChozoBoy]

Not sure what the Japanese trophies said, but from what we know in the English version, Sakurai refers to Mach Rider as a "he". If Mach Rider is also referred to as a male in the Japanese version, then I'd imagine that Mach Rider will be considered a male if he gets in Smash 4 along with a reboot if Sakurai's next project is Mach Rider.

Sakurai didn't write the English text. Japanese doesn't really use gendered references at the same frequency that English does. Someone literate in Japanese should look into the original text of trophy.

Bonus: According to MDb, Mach Rider may be the first human female protagonist in a videogame, edging out Toby Masuyo. This depends on whether Mach Rider released before Baraduke in 1985. The latter's release month seems to be unknown.

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder how fair it is to even say Falcon and Rider are similar... I KNOW I HAVE BEFORE, but aside from general appearance (blue, helmet, shoulder pads) and the fact that they both "go really fast," they're not all that similar. I mean, Mach Rider is not a RACER. He's not flashy and flamboyant. They're from completely different worlds. If Sakurai REALLY WANTED TO GET MACH RIDER INTO CHARACTER, he'd have a more gritty and practical fighting style.

Just with a lot of exploding and reforming. Yeah. Practical.

To be fair, Falcon's not really flashy and flamboyant in the F-Zero series he hails from. That's all Smash, baby.

But similar to how Falcon's moves can be connected to an action taken by the Blue Falcon, I'm willing to bet Mach Rider will have moves that connect to actions taken on the Mach Bike.
Shooting a machine gun is one obvious thing, and possibly a move that increases his/her overall movement speed and attack speed while also increasing the knockback he/she takes from opposing attacks to reference the gear changing aspect of the game.
A main form of attack in the game is slamming a Quadrunner enemy into a rock or oil barrel and make them explode, so possibly an exploding slam attack can be given as well, maybe?


The game also has certain traps like oil slicks, the previously mentioned rocks and oil barrels, water puddles, and tacks. I'm thinking a tack trap move would be interesting and fitting. Like the banana peel, tacks don't send people flying, but instead of making them slip, they step hold their foot in pain if they step on them, leaving them open for attack by Mach (who is unaffected by his/her own tacks LIKE A BOSS).
Exploding and reforming is another cool technique, though it may suit well as a "get-up attack" when Mach is knocked to the floor.

Then we have the idea of using an energy knife based on the female artwork in VS. Mach Rider for normal attacks. (Perhaps Mach can be given a futuristic gun that he/she can fold back and it reveals the energy knife?), and pretty much, Mach is just waiting to be made as a Smash Bros. fighter. Even if the idea of a chain like Ghost Rider is unused, there is still a crapton to work with; moreso than even Pit did prior to Brawl.

Oh, and a rubber-burning, rapid shooting, roadkilling Mach Bike Final Smash. Can't forget that.

EDIT: Wow, Mach Rider used to just be a character I think would be cool in Smash, but now I really effing want him/her in Smash after looking at all of this....

 

[Diddy Kong]

I just realised the whole story of Mach Rider is seriously awesome, and I hope they'll revive the series properly.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Mach Rider is such an under appreciated character with tons of potential.

 

[Oasis_S]

It's true. Handled properly, he could really add a lot to Smash.

YOU KNOW one thing I look forward to is the possibility of seeing what a Quadrunner looks like, lol. I imagine them looking like Baraka from Mortal Kombat, wearing spacey motor vehicle gear. Might appear on Mach Rider's STAGE. OH YEAH, and I hope he gets a cool new remix for his theme.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Fixed Image

I'm working on a moveset. I honestly think I'm being too creative.
"Those spikes on his shoulder... SIDE SMASH!"
I seriously said that.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Moveset done. Sorry for double post.


=============================================================================================

“YOU ARE MACH RIDER”

Mach Rider, the most badass 8-Bit NES hero ever. He enters on his trusty motorcycle, and it transforms into a mobilebike, which hovers at Mach Rider's side constantly. Despite always being on his motorcycle, he is proficient in 1v1 combat. He uses machine guns, spikes, and even some oil and water bottles. Yes, water bottles.
His rival is Captain Falcon.


A – Mach Rider throws a slow, but powerful downward punch
AA – Mach Rider knees the opponent startlingly quickly.
AAA – Mach Rider finishes with a right hook

UpA – Mach Rider upercuts in front of himself. Press UpA again, and Mach Rider fires a quick shot from his machine gun.

DownA – Mach Rider tosses a trio of spikes diagonally downwards while kneeling down. Lots of stun, with little knockback.

SideA – Mach Rider swings his mobilebike quickly in front of himself.

B: Homing Bullet – Mach Rider fires a midweight bullet that will home onto an opponent. It is powerful, but cannot change direction as well as Sonic or Samus' homing missle. Occasionally a Quadrunner shoots out instead.

SideB: Machine Gun – Mach Rider pulls out his trusty machine gun. Mach Rider 'aims' for his opponent, but he can only lock onto one person at a time. Once he fires, he no longer locks on. The closer the enemy is to the gun, the more damage the bullets do.
It can be semi-rapid fired, very similar to Wolf's blaster.

DownB – Mach Rider visciously tosses down an oil can or a water bottle. It breaks open. The liquid splashes left and right, though only oil deals damage. It stays on the ground and can act as a temporary, mounted 'bannana', similar to Diddy Kong's DownB. If used in the air, Mach Rider can toss the can or bottle anywhere. He pulls the can out and can aim similar to Pit.

UpB – Mach Rider quickly leaps up on his motorcycle, as it vigorously spins upward. It creates flames randomly. The height is slightly higher than Sonic's. As a balance, he can barely move left or right in his helpless state.

UpTaunt – Mach Rider reloads his gun silently.

MidTaunt – Mach Rider collapses into pixels, then reforms. (His damage animation)

DownTaunt – Mach Rider takes of his helmet and turns to look at the backround.

Stage: Earth 2112

Earth 2112, Mach Rider's ruined world. The stage is 2D, and has no platforms. It is walk-off-able, similar to Bridge of Eldin. The stage is graphically stunning and detailed. Sometimes Quadrunners zoom by, leaving a trail of flames that damage players. You can predict a Quadrunner by looking at bullet shells on the stage.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Water bottle drink taunt ala Young Link perhaps??

 

[BluePikmin11]

Remember th

Moveset done. Sorry for double post.


=============================================================================================

“YOU ARE MACH RIDER”

Mach Rider, the most badass 8-Bit NES hero ever. He enters on his trusty motorcycle, and it transforms into a mobilebike, which hovers at Mach Rider's side constantly. Despite always being on his motorcycle, he is proficient in 1v1 combat. He uses machine guns, spikes, and even some oil and water bottles. Yes, water bottles.
His rival is Captain Falcon.


A – Mach Rider throws a slow, but powerful downward punch
AA – Mach Rider knees the opponent startlingly quickly.
AAA – Mach Rider finishes with a right hook

UpA – Mach Rider upercuts in front of himself. Press UpA again, and Mach Rider fires a quick shot from his machine gun.

DownA – Mach Rider tosses a trio of spikes diagonally downwards while kneeling down. Lots of stun, with little knockback.

SideA – Mach Rider swings his mobilebike quickly in front of himself.

B: Homing Bullet – Mach Rider fires a midweight bullet that will home onto an opponent. It is powerful, but cannot change direction as well as Sonic or Samus' homing missle. Occasionally a Quadrunner shoots out instead.

SideB: Machine Gun – Mach Rider pulls out his trusty machine gun. Mach Rider 'aims' for his opponent, but he can only lock onto one person at a time. Once he fires, he no longer locks on. The closer the enemy is to the gun, the more damage the bullets do.
It can be semi-rapid fired, very similar to Wolf's blaster.

DownB – Mach Rider visciously tosses down an oil can or a water bottle. It breaks open. The liquid splashes left and right, though only oil deals damage. It stays on the ground and can act as a temporary, mounted 'bannana', similar to Diddy Kong's DownB. If used in the air, Mach Rider can toss the can or bottle anywhere. He pulls the can out and can aim similar to Pit.

UpB – Mach Rider quickly leaps up on his motorcycle, as it vigorously spins upward. It creates flames randomly. The height is slightly higher than Sonic's. As a balance, he can barely move left or right in his helpless state.

UpTaunt – Mach Rider reloads his gun silently.

MidTaunt – Mach Rider collapses into pixels, then reforms. (His damage animation)

DownTaunt – Mach Rider takes of his helmet and turns to look at the backround.

Stage: Earth 2112

Earth 2112, Mach Rider's ruined world. The stage is 2D, and has no platforms. It is walk-off-able, similar to Bridge of Eldin. The stage is graphically stunning and detailed. Sometimes Quadrunners zoom by, leaving a trail of flames that damage players. You can predict a Quadrunner by looking at bullet shells on the stage.

Weren't guns not suppose to be in the game, like how they replaced Snake who uses guns replacing them with explosive.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Meh, you can replace 'gun' with laser gun, bullet with 'laser', and 'shell' with burn marks.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I want Mach Rider to have a Mach Punch, like Captain Falcon's so he can be a badass character everyone can talk about.

 

[Frostwraith]

I want Mach Rider to have a Mach Punch, like Captain Falcon's so he can be a badass character everyone can talk about.

Does it also have higher priority compared to other moves?

 

[Fastblade5035]

I want Mach Rider to have a Mach Punch, like Captain Falcon's so he can be a badass character everyone can talk about.

Riding a spinning bike as it combusts, blasting skyward is not badass?

 

[Frostwraith]

And before I forget... a signature icon by yours truly is right here.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Riding a spinning bike as it combusts, blasting skyward is not badass?

Mach punch could be a Neutral Special move, the recovery move is also a badass idea. I would keep it.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'll make a bigger moveset, but for now I got the special moves and Final Smashes.

B- Machine Gun- Mach Rider uses a machine gun that shoots small glowing spheres (instead of bullets). He can shoot up to 5 spheres, and the startup is very short, but the the amount of time to shoot again is 2 seconds. These bullets go very fast and grow weaker as it shrinks from distance, the distance is very short though (about a platform distance). Each bullet does 3% of damage in the closest distance, while it does 1% damage in the farthest. This special moves help stun the opponent for a short period of time so you can close combat quickly.

B-Side- Mach Punch- Mach Rider starts to focus on his punch and releases his punch diagonally downward with a motorcycle surrounding his punch. This has half the startup a falcon punch would need to execute. Although slightly weaker (20%), it has the ability to meteor smash anyone if used in the air or while edge guarding.

B-Down- Oil Drum- Mach rider begins to kick an oil drums that moves and spreads oil to the ground, causing a slippery surface. The oil drum as a projectile is weak in knock back and power, but if hit enough times it explodes for massive damage and knockback. The oil drum moves slowly, so it's easy to dodge.

B-Up- Mach 360 (working title)- Mach Rider rides his motorcycle to vigorously spin jump.This does multi damage, but he is able to remove his bike to make better knock back and great damage, but at the cost of being pushed backwards far away.

Final Smash- Mach Madness (working title)- Mach rider rides his bike to turn his motorcycle into a super knock back machine. He is able to shoot oil drums while riding that shoots upwards in the sky that can crash down to ground for massive damage.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Remember th
Weren't guns not suppose to be in the game, like how they replaced Snake who uses guns replacing them with explosive.

Even though a "machine gun" is one of his actual weapons.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Even though a "machine gun" is one of his actual weapons.

What fast blade said, it can be lasers instead

 

[ChozoBoy]

Weren't guns not suppose to be in the game, like how they replaced Snake who uses guns replacing them with explosive.

They should all be energy weapons like above. No bullets in Smash.

I also like the idea of the bike forming out of pieces in midair when she needs it for certain attacks. The attacks that use the bike would be powerful, but have an animation of it forming before hand. Maybe crash the bike and she reverts fighting style (kind of like how Pit's bow changes when some attacks are used) or the bike just dissolves after the attack?

If anyone hasn't read this recent Mach Rider article, you should: Was There a Heroine Before Samus?

I think the NES characters with the best chance are Mach Rider, Balloon Fighter, Takamaru, and Sukapon. (Hopefully!)

 

[LaniusShrike]

Y'know, even the knife that the girl is wielding could be depicted as a futuristic energy shiv. Maybe that'd take it away enough from "knife" so that Mach could actually use it as part of her moveset.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Mach rider is a girl O-o

 

[8-peacock-8]

They should all be energy weapons like above. No bullets in Smash.

I also like the idea of the bike forming out of pieces in midair when she needs it for certain attacks. The attacks that use the bike would be powerful, but have an animation of it forming before hand. Maybe crash the bike and she reverts fighting style (kind of like how Pit's bow changes when some attacks are used) or the bike just dissolves after the attack?

If anyone hasn't read this recent Mach Rider article, you should: Was There a Heroine Before Samus?

I think the NES characters with the best chance are Mach Rider, Balloon Fighter, Takamaru, and Sukapon. (Hopefully!)

Sukapon? Nope. The rest are true though.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well I would have to sadly agree, maybe because of Sukapon's dull appearance.

 

[FalKoopa]

Well I would have to sadly agree, maybe because of Sukapon's dull appearance.

Actually, because Sakurai said pre-Melee to "not expect Sukapon in Smash." I don't remember if any reasoning was given.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Anyway, for Mach Rider's "A" button moves, how about attacks based on stuff from Fist of The North Star and Mad Max? (Also some original stuff of course)