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That, or Links maybe? Lol, depends, but yeah I think it's kinda mixed.
Yeah, totally agree.
I'm a Roy main and I've almost never touched 64 Yoshi.
Epic costumes. You should add them in the OP.Aww yeeeah
The list is growing! Let's see if we could continue to make teh ph1r3 grow.
Oh, I was searching through my old files, and I remember starting to do some Roy recolours for practice and fun, though it was like before we knew anything about Smash 4 haha. I'll post them for the heck of it, though idk if I should include them in the OP. I ought to make more...
Lol @ rainbow Roy. Dunno what was the inspiration for that... but all FE Lords should have blue hair! =P
Love the 2nd Roy colour. It's definitely my idea of Roy Badguy.Aww yeeeah
The list is growing! Let's see if we could continue to make teh ph1r3 grow.
Oh, I was searching through my old files, and I remember starting to do some Roy recolours for practice and fun, though it was like before we knew anything about Smash 4 haha. I'll post them for the heck of it, though idk if I should include them in the OP. I ought to make more...
Lol @ rainbow Roy. Dunno what was the inspiration for that... but all FE Lords should have blue hair! =P
The 3rd colour reminds me of Ephraim with that hair, and the Purple colour looks great too!
) while Ike's is stabbing the ground causing a plume of fire to rise up. Roy's, on the other hand, if they brought him back, would probably retain his Flare Blade from Melee, which is now a unique move + animation of its own now, since the neutral specials are a bit more varied.
I was just thinking about that.Love the 2nd Roy colour. It's definitely my idea of Roy Badguy.
And one thing I'd like everyone to consider is this: In Melee: Both Marth and Roy's Neutral Specials were powerful forward slashes. Today, Marth and Lucina's Neutral Special is what one could consider an elegant jab, (Though Lucina, Wii Fit Trainer might need to help you out on your posture so you don't fall over
I think it is fine for FE to have 5 reps. They could maybe make the announcer say "Roy Koopa". Roy has a lot potential to be unique so he wouldn't share the same moves as Marth & Lucina.Here's what I think. With two of the well-known Melee veterans back after 13 years, Dr. Mario and Mewtwo
Now, here's where it gets interesting: Which one would cut it as DLC? Let's see some arguments for and against these last possible Melee DLC candidates. They're lengthy, so I put them in spoilers.
Young Link is very unlikely. At the time, Young Link had Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask going for him, and he was an easily made clone. We know that he was cut from Brawl and Toon Link is filling in the space of a smaller and faster Link. There's also the issue of continuity and clone redundancy. "Hang on, why are there three Links?" As part of the Legend of Zelda franchise, it's a theme that the Spirit of the Goddess's Hero is always reincarnated as Link, and that there are so many incarnations of Link. In Smash Bros, we have the Adult Link
The little shocker, commonly regarded as the worst character in Smash Bros, mainly due to the fact that it always hurts itself. It's quite unlikely they'd bring back Pichu after Mewtwo. Then again, Pichu represented Generation II of Pokémon, Gold, Silver and Crystal, with HeartGold and SoulSilver also seeing the occasional Pichu. Regardless, Pichu still sees a bit of love every now and then, with Spiky-Eared Pichu. Regardless, there's no denying that it was outright cut, seeing only two trophy cameos (Love the 3DS trophy render, though.
And now - the moment you've been waiting for: THE BOY ROY!!!"A new foe appears!!" The sound of the challenger approaching siren in Melee sends chills down anyone's spine. Their shadow hidden in mystery. A man cloaked in navy blue, gentle blade in hand, awaiting those at the Fountain of Dreams - you may call him Marth.
Come 2006, Super Smash Bros Brawl was announced, and in 2007, a new challenger came from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance: A man who would go on to fight for his friends under the title of The Radiant Hero: Ike.
Some people weren't happy with Brawl, seeing only perfection in Melee. To this, a clone engine was born, and Roy and Mewtwo returned in a cruel battlefield, home to competition and glory only. A modded battlefield known infamously as Project M.
Come 2012, the news of a new Super Smash Bros began to circulate. Many thought this would be the time we would see an answer to the fates of the Big Three, Ridley, Mewtwo and King K. Rool. In this year, a new Fire Emblem was born, with the Boy Roy returning as DLC.
Awakening is still regarded today as amazing, and many thought it was obvious we'd see a new Fire Emblem hero in Smash Bros, one being a hero by the name of Chrom, descendant of Marth, Lucina, the daughter of Chrom from a ruined future, and Robin, the tactician who holds the lives of Shepherds in his hands to save the world from destruction.![]()
The first images were shown at E3, and my thoughts still kept onto the cheers of "Roy's our Boy", yet amazed with the newcomers, the psychotic Villager,
The flames began to die when the ESRB leak showed only one of Roy's trusted allies Dr. Mario was confirmed to return, yet there was no sign of Mewtwo. Just by sheer coincidence, Roy faced a new opposition, in the form of Roy Koopa,
It wasn't until now that our fires have been re-ignited, thanks to Roy's ally Mewtwo confirmed as DLC. If you ask me, the way to bring back the best of the Melee Clone Trio is that our Boy Roy comes back as DLC, however unlikely that situation be.
TL;DR, Roy has a few good qualities that can justify his return:
+ A veteran character from Melee that is considered popular by his fans.
+ A recent design can be used to change him from being a full-clone to semi or quasi-clone.
+ Could be a good choice should they decide to bring back another cut Melee veteran.
(Also throwing these in: His game was the first portable Fire Emblem. Marth and Roy also established the popularity of FE in the west.)
His counters, however:
- Does Fire Emblem really need 5 characters? Is it overrepresentation? Then again, what is overrepresentation?
- Commonly regarded by others as a character in both Smash Bros and Fire Emblem as one that leaves very little impact on the players.
- Would he be a clone again? "We don't need two Marth Clones!"
- Marth's violet costume, which has turned him into my punching bag. (Sorry Marth.)
- Roy Koopa. Wouldn't it get confusing having two Roys in the same game?
Any thoughts? Also, please suggest move sets for a new Merc!Roy. You can use Project M, Melee or anything else you can think of. Once again, it's nice to see this thread back.
I doubt they'll change the koopaling's files at all. I think it's just way more likely for them to record and use "Lord Roy" if they bring Our Boy back. As for number of reps, the roster and representation was never balanced to begin with.
I actually wouldn't mind that Purple one or Red one in PMAww yeeeah
The list is growing! Let's see if we could continue to make teh ph1r3 grow.
Oh, I was searching through my old files, and I remember starting to do some Roy recolours for practice and fun, though it was like before we knew anything about Smash 4 haha. I'll post them for the heck of it, though idk if I should include them in the OP. I ought to make more...
Lol @ rainbow Roy. Dunno what was the inspiration for that... but all FE Lords should have blue hair! =P
Let's see... From Melee, we've only got Roy, Young Link and Pichu. 3 (Used to be four with Mewtwo presumed dead and buried, but nope.) From Brawl, we have Ice Climbers, Wolf, Lucas, Squirtle and Ivysaur, and Snake. (5)
Probs not.
I really love the pixel art! May I put the Roy pics in the OP?
Same.
Same here. There are plenty of factors that spark some hope.
You're hope makes the Ph1re in my heart burn brighter... I want our boy... so all the Marth clones can be united in a single Smash.
The absence of Wolf and Lucas is baffling. Why Nintendo is still cutting characters is beyond comprehension. Roy is really popular in Japan with less of a following elsewhere, so you'd think Sakurai had heard the clamor. Snake could go anywhere.
I'm starting to lose hope for Lucas. Mainly because Sakurai said that if a character has no future, they'll be removed. Pichu, Young Link, Ice Climbers & Pokémon Trainer are very unlikely. I kinda doubt Snake too. Wolf is very likely. Roy I think has some chance, but not a huge one.
I've seen some people that are genuinely interested in a character having a reverse Marth tipper. Tbh, I'd much rather have Sakurai come up with a new mechanic for Roy, though if they're going to keep Roy's tipper, I'm going to remain skeptical on how they implant it. They're going to have to up the damage input on some moves, especially the sweetspots, and make Roy hit HARD. That way there's a bigger feel of satisfaction when you do actually get close to the opponent and **** in their face lol.
I can't stop laughing.
