The Lycia Alliance: Roy Legacy Support Thread

[The Revolutionary Cafe]

All they gots to do is recreate his PM moveset with the awakening design and put him as DLC And my life will be complete.

 

[LEGOfan12]

If Roy does become DLC, what do you think Pit, Palutena & Viridi's conversation for him will be like?

 

[Roy-Kun]

If Roy does become DLC, what do you think Pit, Palutena & Viridi's conversation for him will be like?

We still don't even know the other characters' convos, let's not get ahead of time.

 

[Hellrazor]

If Roy does become DLC, what do you think Pit, Palutena & Viridi's conversation for him will be like?

Something about a harem and soulless gingers.

 

[Waluigi is too big]

So... How good of a chance does roy have of being dlc.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

So... How good of a chance does roy have of being dlc.

He's pretty unlikely compared to many other possible candidates for DLC like Wolf or King K. Rool, but out of the Melee veterans, he's more likely than Young Link and Pichu.

 

[Roy-Kun]

So... How good of a chance does roy have of being dlc.

Compared to veterans such as Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake and Lucas, he doesn't have many chances. He'd possibly take priority over Pichu and definitely over Young Link. Asking for Young Link is like asking for OoT!Link to be in, rather than having this current Link. Toon Link is the new Young Link.

If Sakurai is willing to bring more Melee nostalgia though, he may, and just may, do the same that Project M did: bring Mewtwo and Roy back. Mewtwo is already back, and that may give Roy another point to his favor.

 

[SchAlternate]

Compared to veterans such as Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake and Lucas, he doesn't have many chances. He'd possibly take priority over Pichu and definitely over Young Link. Asking for Young Link is like asking for OoT!Link to be in, rather than having this current Link. Toon Link is the new Young Link.

If Sakurai is willing to bring more Melee nostalgia though, he may, and just may, do the same that Project M did: bring Mewtwo and Roy back. Mewtwo is already back, and that may give Roy another point to his favor.

I personally think he has a chance over Snake.

But really, if there are more DLC veterans on the way, Wolf and Lucas are guaranteed to appear before Roy.

Also, HEY!

BUH-ZAYUM!!

Also, palette swaps!

Spoiler

 

[LEGOfan12]

Compared to veterans such as Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake and Lucas, he doesn't have many chances. He'd possibly take priority over Pichu and definitely over Young Link. Asking for Young Link is like asking for OoT!Link to be in, rather than having this current Link. Toon Link is the new Young Link.

If Sakurai is willing to bring more Melee nostalgia though, he may, and just may, do the same that Project M did: bring Mewtwo and Roy back. Mewtwo is already back, and that may give Roy another point to his favor.

How could the Ice Climbers get higher priority than Roy? The 3DS couldn't handle them.

 

[Roy-Kun]

I personally think he has a chance over Snake.

But really, if there are more DLC veterans on the way, Wolf and Lucas are guaranteed to appear before Roy.

Also, HEY!

BUH-ZAYUM!!

Also, palette swaps!

Spoiler

Snake has even less priority than the first-party veterans. But maybe then, he'd have similar chances as Roy, then.

Also nice Alternate costumes.

How could the Ice Climbers get higher priority than Roy? The 3DS couldn't handle them.

That's because of how the fandom is just DEMANDING their return, no matter what. You can't just ignore how loud they've become after finding out about the limitations that the 3DS has brought upon this.

That's why I say they have higher priority. At least to me, but if the problem persists, then they're gone for good, or they'll be Wii U exclusives.

 

[Waluigi is too big]

Honestly I only hold wolf and lucas over Roy in terms of priority.
I hold snake lower because he is 3rd party.
Ice Climber because of technical problems and sakurai talking about there exclusion in interviews..
I also hold all veterans over newcomers in terms of DLC.

 

[Hellrazor]

Ice Climbers have zero chance. Screaming at Sakurai won't make the 3DS more powerful. I think the Brawl vets definitely do have more of a chance, since they were more original and less clone-y. In order, I'd say:

1. Wolf
2. Lucas
3. Roy
4. Newcomers
5. Snake
6. Pichu

 

[SchAlternate]

I don't know, they could revamp the Ice Climbers so that they only share one AI (in a similar way to how Duck Hunt works).

Regardless of which, I think Roy would be a very likely DLC addition if:

1. There will be more DLC characters outside of Mewtwo
2. Said DLC characters will mostly, if not exclusively, be compromised of veterans
3. Wolf and Lucas are among them.

 

[LEGOfan12]

Snake has even less priority than the first-party veterans. But maybe then, he'd have similar chances as Roy, then.

Also nice Alternate costumes.


That's because of how the fandom is just DEMANDING their return, no matter what. You can't just ignore how loud they've become after finding out about the limitations that the 3DS has brought upon this.

That's why I say they have higher priority. At least to me, but if the problem persists, then they're gone for good, or they'll be Wii U exclusives.

I doubt they could be Wii U exclusive. Mainly because Sakurai wanted the 3DS and Wii U versions to have the same roster.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

Regarding Roy, I think one thing that can definitely be improved is his air game, and I think he deserves at least a few new aerial attacks. Here's a few ideas that I have for his Nair and Dair.

Neutral Air: Burning Somersault: Roy spins in the air with the Sword of Seals burning, dealing fire damage when his sword hits along the hilt. I guess you could say it comes from a Mercenary's critical hit animation from games like Awakening, and part of Ike's Aether.

Down Air: Flaming Punishment: This attack starts off just like Roy's Melee Nair, with a fast sword swipe, but for the second sword swipe, Roy brings the Sword of Seals into his opponent from above, dealing a flaming meteor smash.

Yeah, that's as much as I can think of now.

 

[SchAlternate]

Part Two.

Things never turn out well for him, huh?

Well, at least in this case, both Roy and Pittoo seem to be hindered by this turn of fate.

 

[DougX]

Part Two.

Things never turn out well for him, huh?

Well, at least in this case, both Roy and Pittoo seem to be hindered by this turn of fate.

Yep. Dark Edgy Pittoo didn't get enough time to get all of his gear. If Roy wants to get in, he's gonna need to change up his look a little... *Squints eyes and motions towards the Awakening Roy*

Regarding Roy, I think one thing that can definitely be improved is his air game, and I think he deserves at least a few new aerial attacks. Here's a few ideas that I have for his Nair and Dair.

Neutral Air: Burning Somersault: Roy spins in the air with the Sword of Seals burning, dealing fire damage when his sword hits along the hilt. I guess you could say it comes from a Mercenary's critical hit animation from games like Awakening, and part of Ike's Aether.

Down Air: Flaming Punishment: This attack starts off just like Roy's Melee Nair, with a fast sword swipe, but for the second sword swipe, Roy brings the Sword of Seals into his opponent from above, dealing a flaming meteor smash.

Yeah, that's as much as I can think of now.

It's a start and some nice ideas. I've been trying to brainstorm some new ideas for Roy as well, but I'm trying to think of certain moves that wouldn't be going too overboard. If the other aerials remain the same, they could be faster/stronger/better at linking/whatever.

 

[Hellrazor]

Project M's Roy is too perfect. If anything, he might expand his arsenal of explosions. I could see his dair be something similar to Ike's but with an added fireball launch downward, and if he hits with the blade sweetspot it can be a meteor (literally, flaming character crashes downward).

A twirling, fiery nair makes sense to me. A vertical spin would certainly set him apart from Marth however.

There should definitely be a more extravagant animation for his DED, which shouldn't be touched really other than that, and maybe they can add a little poof of flame on the blade of his dtilt to make the pop up make more sense.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I personally think he has a chance over Snake.

But really, if there are more DLC veterans on the way, Wolf and Lucas are guaranteed to appear before Roy.

Also, HEY!

BUH-ZAYUM!!

Also, palette swaps!

Spoiler

Love it, just like how I've imagined him as DLC. If there's any Fire Emblem veteran that was in need of using their Awakening design, it would definitely Roy.

 

[Croph]

You have good taste..love the Awakening design as well. Should he make it in Smash, I think they should use 4 classic/lord and 4 redesign for his swaps/alts.

And as far as the suggestion.. my pleasure.

Fire Emblem: Binding Blade/SoS: http: //gba-mk2.com/srpg/fire.html

Also, Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword (FE6 prequel): http: //gba-mk2.com/srpg/fire2/index.html

For comparison, Fire Emblem: Awakening: http: //ndsmk2.net/3ds/title.php?title=233

^ Are what I like to reference. Just remove the spaces after the http:, it wouldn't let me post links due to not having 10 posts...odd rule

Oh wow, thanks for the links *bookmarks them*

I have another source, that's apparently taken from Famitsu on FE sales. Link if you'd like to see: http://chartget.com/2008/08/media-create-sales-0811-0817.html

Adjusted the outline and head tilt.

This is so cool!! Okay if I include it in the OP?

I personally think he has a chance over Snake.

But really, if there are more DLC veterans on the way, Wolf and Lucas are guaranteed to appear before Roy.

Also, HEY!

BUH-ZAYUM!!

Also, palette swaps!

Spoiler

So sexy... so cool... Imma put the colour swaps in the OP. Awesome job, and I'd totally main Pink Roy.

Yeah, I'd love if Roy gets his Awakening design as an alt, or something loosely based on it (or for his default design).

 

[J04KlM]

This is so cool!! Okay if I include it in the OP?

Yep!

 

[LEGOfan12]

So... How good of a chance does roy have of being dlc.

Compared to the Brawl veterans (such as Wolf & Lucas), not very likely. But I do see him as the most likely Melee veteran to return.

 

[Roy-Kun]

Loving the new OP and thread title!

And that chart is very interesting. I wonder what became of Mystery of the Emblem though. It was said to be the most popular among the Japanese fanbase, while the Western fanbase prefers Geneaolgy of the Holy War.

 

[LEGOfan12]

Hopefully Wolf's just on vacation and he'll be DLC when he gets back.

Don't worry, he'll come back.

 

[LEGOfan12]

Oh wow, thanks for the links *bookmarks them*

I have another source, that's apparently taken from Famitsu on FE sales. Link if you'd like to see: http://chartget.com/2008/08/media-create-sales-0811-0817.html


This is so cool!! Okay if I include it in the OP?

So sexy... so cool... Imma put the colour swaps in the OP. Awesome job, and I'd totally main Pink Roy.

Yeah, I'd love if Roy gets his Awakening design as an alt, or something loosely based on it (or for his default design).

I think you should add a list of supporters in the OP.

 

[CadePirate]

Roy is so much better than Lucina. Just make Lucina a marth alt. GIVE ROY THE SPOT IN THAT AWAKENING MADNESS.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

I think you should add a list of supporters in the OP.

I was about to propose the same thing. The more supporters we have, the more likely we'll be heard, despite the constant detractors arguments. I wonder if we'll one day be as persistent as the Ridley Thread. (We remember you, Ridley)

Roy is so much better than Lucina. Just make Lucina a marth alt. GIVE ROY THE SPOT IN THAT AWAKENING MADNESS.

Or we cut Marth or someone who shouldn't be there in the first place (Nope, not even Dark Pit or Dr. Mario)... Then again, cuts are heartbreaking, as we've seen in the Wolf and Lucas threads. Regardless of how you view them, clones are their own characters, and the people who want Wolf back far outweigh the ones who wanted him gone because of being another Fox clone - he's not. Wolf's almost part of a trio, where he's the Akuma to Ryu (Fox) and Ken (Falco). Why not finish the trio?

 

[Autumn ♫]

Roy is so much better than Lucina. Just make Lucina a marth alt. GIVE ROY THE SPOT IN THAT AWAKENING MADNESS.

 

[Croph]

Sure, I'll add a supporters list. I think it would be best if people want to be added to tag me (@ Croph ) or quote me, as some people may not really support Roy but still may post here.

 

[Hellrazor]

why is your username so goddamn long

hnngh copypastarino

@ Croph

You know I'm all for our boy.

 

[CadePirate]

Sure, I'll add a supporters list. I think it would be best if people want to be added to tag me (@ Croph ) or quote me, as some people may not really support Roy but still may post here.

ADD ME AT THE HELM
OF THE SUPPORTERS LIST!

 

[Autumn ♫]

@ Croph

I've been a long time supporter of Roy, so go ahead and add me, please.

 

[DougX]

Roy's not just your boy, he's my boy, he's our boy, he's everyone's boy. I may continue to try and add on some of my ideas for ol' Roy as I've said a billion times, but never done anything about it.

@ Croph

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

@ Croph ,
ROY'S MY BOY!! He's the veteran I wanted back the most since the announcement of Smash 4, and I want him back.

Add me to the supporters list!

 

[Roy-Kun]

@ Croph

Of course I'll be supporting our boy from Elibe. Let's go.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

@ Croph

Add me on the list since mah boi needs all the love he can get.

 

[SchAlternate]

@ Croph I'd like to be added, obviously.

Also, is it me, or do almost every Melee Roy main happen to be a 64 Yoshi main as well?

 

[Hellrazor]

@ Croph I'd like to be added, obviously.

Also, is it me, or do almost every Melee Roy main happen to be a 64 Yoshi main as well?

I see a mix, actually. I was more inclined toward Link myself (I like swords, okay?). Some go Mario, Falcon or Fox.

 

[Croph]

Honestly though, I know there's some people out there that are all like, "ololol Roy sux!" and whatnot. But I think Roy just needs to return with his Awakening design (default or alt) since it's generally well received, give him some buffs, and play up with the fire capabilities, and I'm sure a lot of the naysayers would welcome him, even if he's still clone-ish (FE fighters tend to be popular as well, and PM Roy's a good start). I could just imagine younger players thinking Roy's really "cool" because of his fire sword and awesome design anyway.

 

[Hellrazor]

Honestly though, I know there's some people out there that are all like, "ololol Roy sux!" and whatnot. But I think Roy just needs to return with his Awakening design (default or alt) since it's generally well received, give him some buffs, and play up with the fire capabilities, and I'm sure a lot of the naysayers would welcome him, even if he's still clone-ish (FE fighters tend to be popular as well, and PM Roy's a good start). I could just imagine younger players thinking Roy's really "cool" because of his fire sword and awesome design anyway.

I always wonder why we give people who find that they have no better use of their time than to **** on what other people like the time of day. They're clearly just out to start something for their own satisfaction.

It's one thing when you're providing valid evidence of why a clone wouldn't return, but there are people who just go "Roy was bad lol" and then try to act like they think they matter.

A character is a character. If we expand the roster, nobody's hurt. We can only do good with bringing back old faves, so just disregard mouthy ****posters.