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The Louisiana Thread: Flarefox Forever - We are alive.

-Ran

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I had the carter III 2 weeks before it came out....

Why is Lylat Cruise a counter pick stage now...?

Who are these people throwing the tournament ive never heard of seen before?
Because, some people suck so bad they cannot recover on a slowly slanting stage.
 

Battousai780

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I moreso hate it because the 3 even platforms are favorable to taller chars (Zelda, Snake, Marth, DK, Bowser, Falcon, Ike, etc.) and notably unfavorable to shorter characters (Kirby, don't care about anyone else).
I say we all play Battlefield every match!!!! Yay4Marth.
 

Sars_Pirate

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I had the Carter III the hour it was leaked lol (friend is a music reviewer, knows about all this ****)
 

-Ran

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My best/favorite stage is/was Lylat, at least a month and a half ago. Grenades are more fun on an ever changing stage.
 

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I do love some BF, except on Saturdays between the hours of 8pm and 12am. D@mn KK Slider knows how to put it down!!!
I do believe you mean Smashville, not BF. : P

I really don't have a favorite stage at all.. I love PKMN Stadium back in melee, but like, I don't really like any of the stages in Brawl.. lol
 

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I do believe you mean Smashville, not BF. : P

I really don't have a favorite stage at all.. I love PKMN Stadium back in melee, but like, I don't really like any of the stages in Brawl.. lol
I think he means that KK is so good, that everyting sucks in comparson. so during that time, he hates being anywhere else but on smashville.
 

sHy)(gUy

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Im going to gamewhere monthy #2 gonna be reppin da orima.....

5th place or betta or i quit smash for good.... i need some money for an apartment... i work one day a week making about 27 dollars lol, i have about 2000 saved up from poker and old paycheks.... if i cant make moneyoff smash i have to quit and focus on poker..... (going to be entering a poker tournie soon at the treasure chest casino) ill see how that goes....
I kinda wana move back to baton rouge though so i can hang out with eric,phil,taylor,vaughn and all the other people i love so much....

Peace Out
 

Battousai780

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I dont like Final Destination that much. Meh. But yeah, I was sad when there was no FoD.... that was my favorite stage.
 

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It does. The actual thread for it is:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=157077

Dibbz, for those that haven't gone there, only has two TVs. They think the tournament for Brawl will be over in two hours.... Lawl.
I lol'd. XD Btw, thanks for the info on astrology Shyguy, definitely learned something new today. Lol. I'm really looking forward to the next Gameware tourny... I'm kinda tired and my eyes are blurring up my vision so I guess it's nite nite for me... **** body. Haha.
 

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Woah, people here listen to Lupe Fiasco?

I agree, The Cool is the album of the year. Track after track is gold, better than the Carter III and loads better than Graduation (most overrated hip-hop album IMO. American Gangster is so much better).
Lupe doesn't have **** the C3.

I'll admit though hes pretty bad ***.
 

Hawks go Caw

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Food & Liquor is significantly better than The Cool in my opinion. Even the 12 minute outro where all he does is say thanks to a billion different people is a good track.

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Tournament starts at 12, but I called him and he said that they'll let us in at 10 or 11 to register and get in some casuals to warm up and what not.

I'm going and two of my buddies are tagging along. They're not especially great, but they'll be able to hold their own for a bit. I don't know how good I am either seeing as how this would be my first tournament. I was thinking there'd be maybe about 20 people with 15 of them being scrubs/eight year olds; though I have no basis for my estimate.
 
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shyg, phil is a noob who separated himself from our entire group of friends and only hangs out with kyle; who also doesnt see us any more. the rest of us would love to have you though.

sorry for being late on this discussion. yall post way too fast. as far as the charter 3 and the cool are concerned... they're completely separate issues. its like comparing melee to brawl LOL. wayne is the best rapper. lupe is the best hip hop artist. surprisingly enough, they're completely different styles. i think the first time freddy and young dylan heard lupe was with me the other day playing the cool in my car. i dont agree with alot of things wayne says just because we are completely oposite types of people. he raps mostly about money, sex, and being the best while those two ideas are ******** to me. even through this i cant deny the fact that he is a lyrical GENIUS. the rhymes he comes up with are insane. better than lupe imo only concerning his rhymes, not his material.
in general, i do think lupe is a better artist. he talks about much more realistic things that people can relate to and some of which i actually agree with. while his rhymes themselves i feel arent as inventive, his general message is better and i like his style more. still; you cant compare hip hop to rap. its like comparing jazz to some blues. they sound similar, but are completely different.

i am a hip hop elitist.
 

Sudai

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So, I just woke up from a nap and like, I had a sex dream...about Road from D. Gray Man. o.o

I liked it. Even I find it somewhat strange though...the details are a bit too much for the public forum though...
 

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Lupe doesn't have **** the C3.
You need to listen to more Lupe Mixtapes

Food & Liquor is significantly better than The Cool in my opinion. Even the 12 minute outro where all he does is say thanks to a billion different people is a good track.
F&L isn't that much better than The Cool, a lot of the tie in songs require mixtape listening to completely understand (i.e. "The Coolest" makes little sense unless you've heard "Real Recognize Real" a few times). Overall F&L wins simply because he wasn't trying to do too much. In The Cool, he tries to make this concept, but at the same time doesn't follow through with it entirely (in case anyone was wondering the flow I think it goes Real Recognize Real -> He Say She Say -> The Coolest -> Streets on Fire -> Gotta Eat -> Put You on Game -> The Die -> The Cool and I think there may be a branching "what if" storyline with Hip-Hop Saved My Life) and leaves people questionable with the weird track layout.

sorry for being late on this discussion. yall post way too fast. as far as the charter 3 and the cool are concerned... they're completely separate issues. its like comparing melee to brawl LOL. wayne is the best rapper. lupe is the best hip hop artist. surprisingly enough, they're completely different styles. i think the first time freddy and young dylan heard lupe was with me the other day playing the cool in my car. i dont agree with alot of things wayne says just because we are completely oposite types of people. he raps mostly about money, sex, and being the best while those two ideas are ******** to me. even through this i cant deny the fact that he is a lyrical GENIUS. the rhymes he comes up with are insane. better than lupe imo only concerning his rhymes, not his material.
in general, i do think lupe is a better artist. he talks about much more realistic things that people can relate to and some of which i actually agree with. while his rhymes themselves i feel arent as inventive, his general message is better and i like his style more. still; you cant compare hip hop to rap. its like comparing jazz to some blues. they sound similar, but are completely different.

i am a hip hop elitist.
Very true point, Rappers = Trash, Hip-Hoppers = Gold. But if you think Wayne is lyrically better than Lupe, you need to get on Azureus and d/l the entire Lupe mixtape anthology, that shows what he can really do.

Most importantly, people need to get to Dibbz since I'm off today.
 

TheDownSyndromeKid

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Heh, not much out there that's funnier than a bunch of white kids discussing hip hop fundamentals.

Although this conversation has piqued my interest in so much that I think I'll download some Lupe Fiasco and check it out...it sounds like solid stuff.
 

Sars_Pirate

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Really IMO, I think that F&L was a bit too ambitious? I know it sounds weird, but I think it's because Lupe hasn't really developed his idea and thoughts yet, just concepts and just spat it like crazy on his first album but no one ate it up cause it was too high and beyond. The Cool however brought it down a bit, not dumbed it down, but just made the concepts more easily realized is I guess what I want to say? And I think the production was also better on the second album too. And I agree with what everyone says about how Lupe's rhymes are just filled with depth, but more importantly, I love the beats that go behind it. Any sort of deviation from club beats is always fine with me.

And I agree with Taylor about Lil Wayne. There are a lot of moments where he'll just speak the truth though, and right now I think he's reached a point in his career where he aims to do more of that than anything else. But so far as just straight rapping is concerned, nobody will ever reach the level of lyrical creativity that Wayne has. His freestyles, his mixtapes, his tracks are just insane because he doesn't bite off of anyone or even off himself. Jiovanni's right in that Lupe also seems inexhaustible, but his volume of works just isn't nearly as huge as Wayne's. When it comes to just putting out lyrics, Wayne is just amazing. He's just able to keep it going forever or so it seems. And CIII keeps that tradition up too. I just was a bit disappointed that the production seemed a bit less highend than I thought it could be. :/ I was really expecting more than just Kanye and Jay-z to help with production too. What happened to BG or Mannie Fresh?
 

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Really IMO, I think that F&L was a bit too ambitious? I know it sounds weird, but I think it's because Lupe hasn't really developed his idea and thoughts yet, just concepts and just spat it like crazy on his first album but no one ate it up cause it was too high and beyond. The Cool however brought it down a bit, not dumbed it down, but just made the concepts more easily realized is I guess what I want to say? And I think the production was also better on the second album too. And I agree with what everyone says about how Lupe's rhymes are just filled with depth, but more importantly, I love the beats that go behind it. Any sort of deviation from club beats is always fine with me.

And I agree with Taylor about Lil Wayne. There are a lot of moments where he'll just speak the truth though, and right now I think he's reached a point in his career where he aims to do more of that than anything else. But so far as just straight rapping is concerned, nobody will ever reach the level of lyrical creativity that Wayne has. His freestyles, his mixtapes, his tracks are just insane because he doesn't bite off of anyone or even off himself. Jiovanni's right in that Lupe also seems inexhaustible, but his volume of works just isn't nearly as huge as Wayne's. When it comes to just putting out lyrics, Wayne is just amazing. He's just able to keep it going forever or so it seems. And CIII keeps that tradition up too. I just was a bit disappointed that the production seemed a bit less highend than I thought it could be. :/ I was really expecting more than just Kanye and Jay-z to help with production too. What happened to BG or Mannie Fresh?
Meh, Wayne isn't that creative. As far as raw material goes, Lupe has some 15 mixtapes in addition to his two albums as well. The thing about Wayne is that he makes his lyrics easier to decipher while still providing shallow metaphors which looks good on the surface, but fails to satisfy people that delve far beyond the surface. As far as Mannie goes on C3, he's been beefin with Wayne for a while about why he was conveniently absent on the Carter II. Highly disrespectful IMO considering Wayne wouldn't be where he is now without the Mannie Fresh beats (case a point: Young Jeezy, one of the ****tiest rappers ever, but his first single had a catchy hook and a Mannie Fresh beat. The power of production). I will give it to Wayne, he is the hardest working rapper right now and deserves at least some of the hype considering he works 200% harder than 85% of rappers, but hard work isn't everything.

Trust me, if you go and download at least Fahrenheit 1/15 I, II and III you can see just how much better Lupe is than the rest of the game. Then you can branch out into other worthy hip-hop artists as well. Once you get through those, make sure you find a copy of the Food & Liquor leak, if you can't find it, I have it on my comp and can burn it for you if you give me a CD.

Also as far as straight rhyming goes, Black Thought (The Roots) >>> than everyone. I've heard multiple songs where this guy carries 3 syllables for an entire verse, sickness.

and yeah, let's get some DIBBZ action sometime soon, maybe 1ish

edit for the sake of quoting Lupe:

Big ups to Footloose and all the fans of me,
my fanbase spans from Vans to Timberlands, from
Mansions to section 8 campers, B,
I'm they champion and I ain't even sound standard, see
I been lamping,
whipping up an answer to these rappers, who got it backwards like they zippin up they pants to pee!
Like I'm just a rapper, and I ain't dapper, I'm frequently fly, I can go to France for free!
And i ain't no fan and base, cookin up grahams of seed, weighin they wet, stretchin they O's like rubber bands, to feed!

Segment from the freestyle "Lu Myself." Notice how he keeps the same rhyme (he actually keeps this rhyme for the whole verse) and just how ridiculous his language and metaphors are. Wayne could never use a word like "lamping" properly and probably doesn't even know what it means.

Oh and I'm black btw, and as far as white people arguing about hip-hop goes, I went to this Kweli concert here my freshman year, and there were literally 7 black people out of about the section I was standing in of about 200 or so. I don't really doubt that people outside of my own race have knowledge of hip-hop music.
 

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"i feel big..like not as in weight but like..i feel....collosus....like..*sigh*"
Rappers shouldn't ever talk! just rap...every time they open their mouth to speak they dont even know what they're saying, lol

i'm not working tonight...everyone is going to dibbz or something?..dunno what i'm doing.
 

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Sudai, I was planning on going, as well as Vaughn, I believe. I dunno if anyone else is interested in going, but if it's just us, then we can all ride together (Alex too, of course). I'm gonna see Vaughn today, so I'll talk to him and whoever else is there.
 

Sars_Pirate

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Black thought.

Oh my God, does anyone have better delivery than that dude? I didn't think anyone would have brought him up, but I'm not sure his rhymes are the best. I think his style and his flow are amazing but his rhymes aren't what make him. It's his politically conscious words and his ability to deliver them that make him who he is. But something should be stated about how raw he always sounds and the fact that he can sell a song always by himself. In all of his feat, I've never heard him get killed. He always drives it better than any other rapper on his tracks.

And I'm guessing you're not a guy who likes the club beats? More socially conscious/underground stuff? I mean, all that is awesome and respectable, for sure, but I'll admit. With the state of the game right now, you can't help but listen to some of the club stuff which is why I take it upon myself to argue for Wayne. And for Young Jeezy who, I admit, does not rap in like 99% of his songs, but when he does, his style just brings a certain kind of authority and swagger that helps elevates what he has to say. While some rappers go on what their lyrics say to connect with audiences, some aren't gifted enough to do that and instead have to reach out using other means. Jeezy IMO just does it through his style. :/

And while I understand why production shouldn't sell an artist, it's recognized that this is what it's turned into, right? So while I may not like it, I still recognize the guys who are able to make it due to production.
 

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Black thought.

Oh my God, does anyone have better delivery than that dude? I didn't think anyone would have brought him up, but I'm not sure his rhymes are the best. I think his style and his flow are amazing but his rhymes aren't what make him. It's his politically conscious words and his ability to deliver them that make him who he is. But something should be stated about how raw he always sounds and the fact that he can sell a song always by himself. In all of his feat, I've never heard him get killed. He always drives it better than any other rapper on his tracks.

And I'm guessing you're not a guy who likes the club beats? More socially conscious/underground stuff? I mean, all that is awesome and respectable, for sure, but I'll admit. With the state of the game right now, you can't help but listen to some of the club stuff which is why I take it upon myself to argue for Wayne. And for Young Jeezy who, I admit, does not rap in like 99% of his songs, but when he does, his style just brings a certain kind of authority and swagger that helps elevates what he has to say. While some rappers go on what their lyrics say to connect with audiences, some aren't gifted enough to do that and instead have to reach out using other means. Jeezy IMO just does it through his style. :/

And while I understand why production shouldn't sell an artist, it's recognized that this is what it's turned into, right? So while I may not like it, I still recognize the guys who are able to make it due to production.
Though most people may look down on rap music because of synthesized beats, I in fact love all kinds of beats. Anything that can catch my ear. Some beats are bad, but some club beats do go very hard. As far as content goes, it doesn't have to be politically conscious, just deep. Since we were previously talking about Lupe, I'll use him as an example. "Superstar" while a good song wasn't at all socially conscious song. It was still very deep however and still kept me thinking. Whereas Lupe can also switch-up the swagger and deliver a song like "Gotta Eat" (best song IMO and one of the best songs I ever heard, the running metaphor of fast food is absolutely ridiculous) or "Put You on Game" which are socially conscious and deep at the same time.

I just don't like the fact that nowadays the airwaves are dominated by rappers who can't actually rap very well and are moreso talking over a beat with lame rhymes and no metaphors or similes. Coming from the days of Public Enemy and Run DMC to something as great as BlackStar, OutKast and Common, then all of a sudden taking a nosedive into the stuff that you hear now is especially disheartening from someone that's black. Though all people may enjoy hip-hop equally, for a black person its like a reflection of the community. Other people take it as entertainment, but for me, this is how my people act and how I'm assumed to be to total strangers. I hate to get all political and deep on Smashboards but clearly the black race is seeing a decline in population growth rate and success rate. I honestly believe that the music we listen to has a big role to play as well. Thankfully for me, my parents were able to get me out of the hood at a young age, but to kids who can't get away from hearing about murders, crack sales, and f!ckin b!thces, it sucks. They pretty much get set-up for failure from the get-go. The worst part is that the kids idolize these wack rappers because they have money and they (allegedly) started off in the streets selling crack.

In the words of the great Kweli:

We keep it gangsta, say fa shizzle fa sheezy, and stayin crunk,
its easy to pull a breezy, smoke trees, and we stay drunk,
Yo I activism, attackin the system, the black and latins in prison
The numbers in prison they victims, lackin the vision,
**** all they got is rappin to listen to
 

TheDownSyndromeKid

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Oh and I'm black btw, and as far as white people arguing about hip-hop goes, I went to this Kweli concert here my freshman year, and there were literally 7 black people out of about the section I was standing in of about 200 or so. I don't really doubt that people outside of my own race have knowledge of hip-hop music.
Sorry, it was just a racial joke. I don't actually believe that white people can't know anything about it or that everyone in the conversation was definitely white. Just a joke.

And, given the chance, I would've loved to been one of the 193 white people in that section. Or just anywhere in that building really. Talib Kweli is definitely art, in every sense of the word, that I can enjoy.

And as far as your last post goes....don't really matter....Kweli and Mos made Black Star. That's automatic ethnic win.
 

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I can probably head over to Dibbz around 2:30 or 3 and stay until around 5 or 5:30.
BRING YOUR WII AND BRAWL AND POST BEFORE YOU LEAVE AND I'LL HEAD OVER!!!

Sorry, it was just a racial joke. I don't actually believe that white people can't know anything about it or that everyone in the conversation was definitely white. Just a joke.

And, given the chance, I would've loved to been one of the 193 white people in that section. Or just anywhere in that building really. Talib Kweli is definitely art, in every sense of the word, that I can enjoy.

And as far as your last post goes....don't really matter....Kweli and Mos made Black Star. That's automatic ethnic win.
No offense taken.
 
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