Really IMO, I think that F&L was a bit too ambitious? I know it sounds weird, but I think it's because Lupe hasn't really developed his idea and thoughts yet, just concepts and just spat it like crazy on his first album but no one ate it up cause it was too high and beyond. The Cool however brought it down a bit, not dumbed it down, but just made the concepts more easily realized is I guess what I want to say? And I think the production was also better on the second album too. And I agree with what everyone says about how Lupe's rhymes are just filled with depth, but more importantly, I love the beats that go behind it. Any sort of deviation from club beats is always fine with me.
And I agree with Taylor about Lil Wayne. There are a lot of moments where he'll just speak the truth though, and right now I think he's reached a point in his career where he aims to do more of that than anything else. But so far as just straight rapping is concerned, nobody will ever reach the level of lyrical creativity that Wayne has. His freestyles, his mixtapes, his tracks are just insane because he doesn't bite off of anyone or even off himself. Jiovanni's right in that Lupe also seems inexhaustible, but his volume of works just isn't nearly as huge as Wayne's. When it comes to just putting out lyrics, Wayne is just amazing. He's just able to keep it going forever or so it seems. And CIII keeps that tradition up too. I just was a bit disappointed that the production seemed a bit less highend than I thought it could be. :/ I was really expecting more than just Kanye and Jay-z to help with production too. What happened to BG or Mannie Fresh?
Meh, Wayne isn't that creative. As far as raw material goes, Lupe has some 15 mixtapes in addition to his two albums as well. The thing about Wayne is that he makes his lyrics easier to decipher while still providing shallow metaphors which looks good on the surface, but fails to satisfy people that delve far beyond the surface. As far as Mannie goes on C3, he's been beefin with Wayne for a while about why he was conveniently absent on the Carter II. Highly disrespectful IMO considering Wayne wouldn't be where he is now without the Mannie Fresh beats (case a point: Young Jeezy, one of the ****tiest rappers ever, but his first single had a catchy hook and a Mannie Fresh beat. The power of production). I will give it to Wayne, he is the hardest working rapper right now and deserves at least some of the hype considering he works 200% harder than 85% of rappers, but hard work isn't everything.
Trust me, if you go and download at least Fahrenheit 1/15 I, II and III you can see just how much better Lupe is than the rest of the game. Then you can branch out into other worthy hip-hop artists as well. Once you get through those, make sure you find a copy of the Food & Liquor leak, if you can't find it, I have it on my comp and can burn it for you if you give me a CD.
Also as far as straight rhyming goes, Black Thought (The Roots) >>> than everyone. I've heard multiple songs where this guy carries 3 syllables for an entire verse, sickness.
and yeah, let's get some
DIBBZ action sometime soon, maybe 1ish
edit for the sake of quoting Lupe:
Big ups to Footloose and all the fans of me,
my fanbase spans from Vans to Timberlands, from
Mansions to section 8 campers, B,
I'm they champion and I ain't even sound standard, see
I been lamping,
whipping up an answer to these rappers, who got it backwards like they zippin up they pants to pee!
Like I'm just a rapper, and I ain't dapper, I'm frequently fly, I can go to France for free!
And i ain't no fan and base, cookin up grahams of seed, weighin they wet, stretchin they O's like rubber bands, to feed!
Segment from the freestyle "Lu Myself." Notice how he keeps the same rhyme (he actually keeps this rhyme for the whole verse) and just how ridiculous his language and metaphors are. Wayne could never use a word like "lamping" properly and probably doesn't even know what it means.
Oh and I'm black btw, and as far as white people arguing about hip-hop goes, I went to this Kweli concert here my freshman year, and there were literally 7 black people out of about the section I was standing in of about 200 or so. I don't really doubt that people outside of my own race have knowledge of hip-hop music.