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The Louisiana Thread: Flarefox Forever - We are alive.

Sudai

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I'll be there.

If anyone wants to smash between now and then, I'll be looking for people to smash with. I don't have school for the rest of this week. Supposed to be smashing with Freddy tomorrow, but he says I can't go over till 6ish, so anyone else wanna smash some before that?
 

FakeGeorge

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Aww, that sucks. Though, you're going to Final Smash 2, right? At least you'll be able to hang out with some Louisiana people there.

Sudai, I wouldn't mind playing you sometime. Tomorrow would be bad, but maybe Thursday or something? That is, if you're free and wanna smash.
 

Cyphus

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u should probably ban wobbling :)
i don't mind, considering i play without it now..but if its for money..i will deffinately wobble my way to first =]
so..either ban it....
or i'll agree to not wobble for each oponent that agrees not to pick rainbow/pokefloats versus me =]
 

Sudai

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Randall, I'm down to play, but thursday I have a post opp that I forgot about. It's at 2 (I think? Earlier if not at 2 though) so we can play after that if you want.
 

KenAlleman

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I need some serious practice before this tournament.
I'm free tomorrow before 6pm... So, Sudai, if you wanna come smash at my place, then at 6, go smash at freddy's that'd work for me.
 

FakeGeorge

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Cyphus, since you're the only person who really plays Ice Climbers and don't mind not having it, I'll just ban it then.

Sudai, later in the afternoon would be better for me anyways. I'm not certain if I'll be up for playing Thursday, but I'll let know you for sure sometime tomorrow.
 
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man i sucked at smash tonight. i havent played in a while. i should probably play a few more times before the tourney.

randall, im more than willing to help you with what ever you need to run the tournament. i'd really like to see it run much faster than last. i used to have virtually no breaks between matches and would be done in a few hours.
 

xyouxarexuglyx2

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My tier list to aggravate Sars

Top: Marth, Fox, Sheik (no order)
High: Peach, Falco (Peach better than Falco)
High Mid: Falcon, Jiggs, Samus
Mid: ICs, Mario, Doc, Luigi
Low/Bottom: The rest

Top: Tourney winners. Big tournies. Not local ones.
High: People that place high in tournies but don't quite make the cut
Everyone else: Basically everyone else, with a few people placing higher i.e. HugS, Mango, Chu

I'm really hard on Falco because how easily he gets killed off and can't gimp as well as... well, basically everyone else in the top 5.

[21:59] Forward: like most characters, you have to be hit several times during a ledge guard to be killed
[21:59] Forward: but falco you just have to hit once
[22:00] xroflmaowtfx: is that the reason that you don't use Falco as much anymore?
[22:00] Forward: one of the reasons

Tai out. Back to the Southwest boards.

btw, hi and bye (HiBi LOL), Vaughn and Randall.
 
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ice are easily better than jiggs and samus. arguably even peach and capt. chu isnt the only ice beast. wobbles is awesome, than fl player than i cant remember his name, among others.
and falco is a beast. way greater than peach. but everyone has their own opinion, so it's totally cool.
 

Entreri

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Is Houma going to make it to the tournament and is everyone still going to enter teams if Taylor and I team up? I think it would be dumb though if we don't get any out of city competition, but I just got an awesome idea. I'll play Roy and you play Marth. No subbing no matter what. Except for Lee and Cyphus. Then we go Fox/Falco. Clearly. And unplug their controllers.
 

FakeGeorge

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I'm thinking we'll have 4-5 TVs in all, and Gameware has 1. That means we need to bring 3-4 TVs. I have one, and Gary has two. Then there's Vaughn's, so that gives us what we need right there. What would be most helpful is one more setup. Alex and I can provide 2 maybe 3 cube/smash combos. I'm sure Vaughn has one as well as Gary. That's 4 maybe 5, so one more would be nice.

I'm thinking we'll need one or two tables for some of the setups, unless we want to put tvs on the floor. Chairs would also be nice. If anyone has some small chairs/ stools, please bring them. A few of the setups will be so high that standing would probably be more comfortable, but chairs would be nice.
 

xyouxarexuglyx2

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ice are easily better than jiggs and samus. arguably even peach and capt. chu isnt the only ice beast. wobbles is awesome, than fl player than i cant remember his name, among others.
and falco is a beast. way greater than peach. but everyone has their own opinion, so it's totally cool.
Yeah, I know.

Rob 3-stocked my Marth with his ICs.
 

Sudai

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I can bring a cube, melee, and possibly 2-3 controllers. I know I have my own controller, but these would just chill on a set-up or something.
 

FakeGeorge

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That would be useful. I'd much rather have too much stuff than not enough. Tables/ chairs anyone? I probably have a few at my house but not nearly enough.
 

Cyphus

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Yeah, I know.

Rob 3-stocked my Marth with his ICs.
who r u?
i mean..robmoney could 3 stock u w/ a few characters. but iunno..i don't think he's that pro anymore, and i didn't think he played ice. bleh....
next time i wont SD and i'll win...*grumble* god he's such an poor *** sport at smash.
 

Sudai

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His recovery is terrible.

So like, fun stuffs tonight guys.

I'm not gonna be free tomorrow like I thought I would, but I should be free Friday - Sunday.
 

Sars_Pirate

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Top: Marth, Fox, Sheik in that order
High: Peach, Falco, Falcon
High Mid: Ice Climbers, Jigglypuff, Samus
Mid: Doc, Ganondorf, Mario
Low: Luigi, Link, Young Link, Zelda, Donkey Kong
Bottom: So subjective this category, it's not worth mentioning.

Top tier: The rationale for here is simple. Marth is the most dominant character across the board now and the current metagame. Just judging by the way m2k has redefined Marth and making it more gay by utilizing ledge invincibility and an increase attention towards agility than Ken-like combo fantaticism, Marth's game has evovled and allows it to compete with the fast moving game that most of today's characters have. Also, it's clear once again that space animals are countered or at least at a disadvantage by Marth's dominant edgeguarding game with a combination of high priority edgeguarding as well as off the stage acrobatics. Also, Brolly plays him and plays him well. Without advanced tactics. That alone should show how broken he is.

Next on the list is Fox. Short reason is because it's Fox. Fox still carries the most potential of all the character and its speed allows it to compete with virtually any matchup. Also, it's not really fully countered by anyone (like 30-70 countered) and is the one character that is the least affected by stage counterpicks in my opinion (only stages horrible for Fox is like Brinstar and Battlefied. It's true Fox can't kill upwardsly as well on DL64, but he has greater mobility and a retreating, lasering Fox can rack up more than enough damage required to KO).

Sheik is the only other character in contention of being top tier because her metagame has shown the kind of potentiality that allows her to compete with the best. Like Fox, she is rarely affected by stage counterpicks, and today's Sheik game demands she be more agile and FINALLY people are paying attention to the fact that she can be played technically, not just smartly. Also, Sheik loses primarily only to Fox/Falco/Ice Climbers players while countering everyone else (though today's Marth metagame was pulling closer than ever until KDJ came about). But Fox has a more difficult time utilizing the shine as a combo starter against Sheiks now since shine DI is more clearly defined, and players like Tope and Drephen have showed consistently how gay it is for a space animal to play against Sheik--imo Fox especially. Also, to those who say she doesn't belong up here, m2K and Ken have both agreed she is the best character in the game, just underplayed, and since there are only two good Sheik players in the nation at the moment (Drephen and Forward) it's hard to argue for a character's position as being so high but in accordance to my smash theory, it makes perfect sense.
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High: Peach is undoubtedly one of the more untapped cheap characters. Because her game appears so simplistic, many players tend to not try anything new with her and stick with tricks that are always known to work--like how for the longest time Sheik players though d-throw to Fair was all they needed. But Peach can be played much more technically and her high priority and lag less aerials, her retardedly useful dash attack, the fact that turnips are still stunningly effective, and the fact that her throws make very effective combo starters mean she can easily adapt to many matchups and overwhelm with stats much like Marth does. Also, since players have further invested their time discovering the secrets about DI, Peach players live phenomenally longer than they used to. And in truth, there are only two characters who regularly aim to KO vertically--Fox and Pikachu; and I guarantee you only one of these characters will actually be seen in tournaments where as the other can still be easily comboed by a Peach although admittedly, Fox is without a doubt Peach's bigggest challenge since she can't do anything to get out of shine combos. But aside from that, Peach very nearly dominates most of the cast listed underneath her with the exception of those listed in her own category. Also, only reason why I list her above falco--I have to play against KOS-MOS. Trust me, it makes a difference mentally >_>

Falco's game a year ago seemed near impossible to get around with its heavy blitzing style of play and fast 0-60 combos that seem to rack itself up effortlessly. But a year since then, every player in the world has played against a good Falco and knows how to get around it--grab it, cheap it out, and then edgeguard. To be honest though, Falco seems to be as deadly as he has ever had been before and with FL becoming freakishly technical and skilled specifically with lasers, this is probably my hardest placement and the one I'm least sure about. But even with gimp kills, it should be recognized that Flaco can easily gimp just as well with the easiest dair in the game and a phenomenal edgeguard game that is only enhanced by DJ cancelling lasers. If FL players go to Pound 2 and make an impressive showing though, I'd easily put this character above Sheik and have 4 characters in top tier.

Falcon's game has always been difficult to critique because he is by far the least stacked of all the good characters. He doesn't have lasers, a down smash, ******** priority and range, or the shine. Everything a Falcon player does has to be done perfectly too because it's so easy to gimpy kill a Falcon--so much so that there aren't any matches that I'd say that Falcon would be considered to be a counter. Not Samus, not Ganondorf, not Peach, not even Bowser =O. Reason being is he's easy to combo, easy to edgeguard, and easy to disrupt. But what Falcon players have done now is with the new emphasis on agility and wavelanding and such, become even quicker than they have before as well as being more patient for the purpose of pulling off more technical, gorgeous Knee combos as well as putting in an added emphasis of utilizing underused techniques such as smash attacks, walljumped recoveries, and of course moonwalked edgeguards. Falcon's mobility has allowed him to be a much more tricky and frightful opponent and his speed has reached a point where players are becoming unsure of how to approach the character. Also as SilentSpecter and Darkrain have repeatedly shown, Falcon's grab game can control the pacing of the opponent very wickedly. Though space animals and Sheik players are excellent against Falcon, his grab game robs them of all their mobility and perfect techcasing as well as smart comboing allows for Falcon players to rack up damage and control the pacing of the game to their liking. Also, Falcon players tend to redefine themselves by learning to use Falcon's mobility to cope with stage disadvantages (since most stages in the game really don't favor Falcon but rather unfavor the opponent). Hell, FoD which was quintessentially known as Falcon's worst stage for the longest time has become a fantastic stage in the hands of SS--against space animals!

*will continue later*

This is why I didn't want to be involved . . .
 

Entreri

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Marth may be top tier on Yoshi's Story, Battlefield, Dreamland, Pokemon Stadium, Fountain of Dreams, and Final Destination. Too bad those aren't the only stages in the game.
 
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falcons recovery is arguably the worst in the game and he's still an awesome char. but seriously if you let falcon back to a normal stage... lol noob.

in other news... is houma or n.o. coming to the tournament? and kyle i'd rather just win than play marth and roy. we should practice our real teams for san antonio in a tournament situation. there are a couple br teams that could compete.

in other other news, if people are going, i'm 100% going to be at dibbs saturday night. let me know.

i got my smash back after a few hours of playing tonight, but i still want to play houma and n.o

and falco deserves a top tier position, no matter what order you put them in. he's too good. (but not as good as marth, Oh!)
 

Sars_Pirate

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@Manko

Well, you only really have one awesome Marth player, and he tends to not use Marth and switch to other characters a lot :p
 

Cyphus

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i work a double saturday (but could still techncially go after..)but i have work sunday morning at 11:30...so...that would be really gay. Probably not gonna go..but dont know yet...
 
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4 stocked by the hood. twice (but rly like 5 times)

so i woke up way too late today. i didnt realize how way to late until i tried to leave my house. when i walk out my front door i see 2 people walking down the street out of the corner of my eye. this is not unusual at all so i continue to my car, getting in and shutting the door to avoid suspicion. i tend to light up a cigarette at this point and usually passers by dont **** with me. they pass me up before i get to light one so i feel its cool. the guy makes a crazy turn and comes back asking me something. i figured he was just asking for a couple bucks which never really bothers me so i roll down the window to see what he has too say. what a mistake. he asks for a ride for him and his girlfriend "just around the corner," supposedly her foot was hurt and couldnt walk anymore. i stupidly agree. he asks me what i was about to do and i retardedly say i didnt have any plans i was just trying to get out of my house (which was completely true, but i shouldve acted urgent as though i had places to go.). he tells me the directions to his destination and makes small talk. by small talk, i mean completely chaotic talk because this guy was insane. he must have been high on crack or something because he was totally nuts. the girl was chill but it didnt rly make the situation any better. he even tried to sell his hoe to me. freaking out telling me to turn on the lights. he starts squeezing her thigh asking me "you like this man? you cant tell me you dont. you can have this bro." after 2 minutes of refusal he finally gave up. she was completely non responsive during this whole thing, which makes me think this isnt the first time it has happened. he said he had to stop somewhere and pick up some money that was a christmas present, then they were going home. he leaves the girl in the car so i cant drive away. she tells me how her dad just died because someone injected poison into his beer with a needle before giving it to him. totally ****ed up. i dont know if this was a hint or w/e else but her man kept trying to offer me a beer an i kept refusing. she asks if she can have my lil wayne cds and i agree (they were free, burnt drought 3 cds, and i really didnt mind). he gets back in the car and says they need to go buy some weed before i bring them home. im totally not excited about this but what could i do? he was totally cracks out and i didnt know if he had weapons or what ever else so im pretty much just doing everything he says out of fear. it's so lame how when you try to help someone out, they can take COMPLETE advantage of you. anyway, he asked me "what i did," as in what type of drug. coke, jiggs, weed, and other stuff, but i told him i was totally clean and after a few minutes he left it alone. the girl makes up a lie for me that i need to go pick up my niece or something so he needed to hurry up. he heard, but didnt really heed the request at all. we go to the next house, the whole time he's freaking out about directions, where to park, and everything else. i talk to the girl for a few minutes, who is totally ****ed up but still acts way more normal and calm. he comes back and says we can go to his house now. when we get to highland road he begs to go to jack in the box and pick up some dollar burgers. i agree, still not knowing if he has a gun, shank or what ever else. we get there and they order $11 worth of food. finally we head to their destination on polk st. believe it or not, the worst part is yet to come. when we arrive he tells her to go inside because he needed to talk to me. she leaves and he gets in the front seat. he says he wants to bring her to a hotel tonight and needs $20. i say i just started a new job and i really didnt have any money, especially since i just drove them around and bought them jack in the box. he is extremely persistent, if possible even more than when the girl was in the car. i give him $4 i had left and he isnt satisfied. he asks for some change but i show him my jar of pennies and he doesnt want that. (good thing i just cashed out my change for like $30.) he does take my lighter out of my console however and then starts talking again. he says "but seriously man, it's really cold outside, let me get your jacket," as in the one i was wearing. flabbergasted, i say it was a christmas present and i really cant get rid of it. he was previously sitting in the back where my big tan suede-ish jacket was and asks for that one. i tell him it was my mom's dead father's and it's also extremely important. he is, once again, extremely persistent, especially after being turned down twice so finally i just give it to him. he finally gets out of the car and im free. it frustrates me to no end, when you can try to help someone and they virtually rob you. i still dont know if he had any weapons but i came short $15 dollars, a lighter, 2 cds, my nice jacket, and some of my faith in humanity.

morals of this story include many which im not going to state. it was just really lame,
peace.
(or maybe violence. im pissed off a little bit)
 

Cyphus

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sorry to hear about that taylor. i'm sure everyone would tell you "man, i would have done this, instead,...blablabla, etc" but people really don't know what they're talking about if they haven't lived the situation. You did the 2nd smartest thing possible (first being not pick them up), so theres no shame in that...i know if i were in your shoes right now i'd be wishing i would have given them nothing instead or wish there was something you could do about it, but yea...sadly it doesn't work that way. Its ok to be really upset about it, i know i would, but know you will eventually get over it. (much like i did about getting triple teamed in a fight).

Which jacket did u give to him? Were they really a christmas present and your grandfather's?
Listening to it, i wish i was there to beat the **** out of him........all in all, he more than likely did not have a weapon............but u never know. :/ You played the safest game, so no johns. The way i look at it, is he didn't get away with really much...(outside the jacket) he's totally the worst kind of loser there is, so at least you have the comfort in knowing he's just as miserable now as he was before he took advantage of you.
 

KenAlleman

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THat sucks some major balls, Taylor. Sorry to hear that.
Lol. report it to the police as a theft at knife point. Then if they catch him, it'll just be your word against a drug addict's.
 

SetsumA

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That story just made me ****ing furious. people.. corrupt by greed, and substances should not be aloud to live. fcking scum of the earth.

all in all im glad youre okay man.
 

Mankosuki

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lol Cyphus, that's like the 3rd time you've posted that over the years and it never gets old.

glad you're safe though Taylor.
 

Sars_Pirate

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Yeah, Taylor, it really sucks that being a nice guy really gets you screwed in this state sometimes. Really ****ed up how things turned out especially for you, but I wouldn't get too down about it. Yeah there are a lot of ***holes, but there are better people out there too.
 
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thx for teh love guys xD

so who's going to dibbs saturday?
im going for sure if any of houma is going.
let me know soon as possible.
peace.
 

Flarefox

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i still dont know if he had any weapons but i came short $15 dollars, a lighter, 2 cds, my nice jacket, and some of my faith in humanity.
I feel bad for you Taylor. The world is a cold, dead place sometimes, and it really is greed that is the source of all bad things.

The important thing is that you weren't hurt physically in this incident. You were probably really pressured into giving them a ride, and, once he got in, you had to give him the stuff to not get hurt. I don't think you made any real mistake that you should worry about. It's a shame that when you're nice to people, they threaten and hurt you, which makes you not want to help anyone that might actually be in need from then on.

I'm glad you're okay.

You should have driven your car into the police station while they were in it, though. :laugh:
 
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cyphus, where can i find manko's porn? every time i youporn: mankosuki, nothing comes up. please help me!
 
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