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If you are going for a Castle Bodygaurd, then the Bomb Shinobu is redundant. The Fire Shinobu however is unique enough to attack with his fireballs.
Hmmmnn, they would work. But part of their charm was to fool you into thinking the maiden could heal you when you found one in Murasame Castle
I mean you could have ones that DO heal you.
True, that way the surprise factor can still be there when you happen to find the wrong maiden. That's a cool Easter Egg to the game that shouldn't be ignored if you do happened to include the vengeful Hannya.
This would be a good idea. That way players can get a little spoiled until they run into the wrong geisha and deal with something just as worse as the Bulborb, Polar Bear, Bonkers, and Clubberskull. Having a lot of health and chasing you down until you're dead. It will definitely be fun. but frightening at the same time.
Great ideas. The ninjas should be just as agile and annoying to be true to their original roles. Good call on wall clinging, don't forget about taking inspiration from the Biosparks from Kirby. Even give them a fake death animation where they explode only for the real ninja to reappear in a different location.
I think he should be able to redirect his own projectiles with all of his attacks, but only have a counter-special for the projectiles of others
I think that's a silly argument to be honest. Even if he uses a sword, provided that they can give him unqiue attacks, I don't think that should be an issue. That's like saying we can't have another character, like say K. Rool, because there are too many characters that fight barehanded.
Fair enough. I completely agree on the Counters though. Marth, Roy, Ike, Lucina, Corrin, Lucario, Greninja, Palutena, Peach, Little Mac, Shulk, Bayonetta, (and some would argue Ryu as well.)
While I like the idea of scaling back the power of counters, I'm not sure how well it'd work as a universal mechanic. If that were the case then every character with a counter would need a replacement move, so for now I think simply cutting back on the characters that have counters would be the simpler solution. I think Marth should keep his due to how well it fits him, along with Shulk and Bayonetta whose counters are at least a bit more unique and a major part of their actual arsenals in their games.
Sounds about right. He should naturally have full control over his own weaponry if someone reflects it at him. That way, a good player can't be screwed by their own attacks.
Pretty much. You can't ignore one of the more unique weapons from Murasame Castle. It adds a bit more stealth to Takamaru's gameplay as a special. Not sure how different his lightning would be from Pikachu's.
Well, for the record most movesets of Takamaru's try to take the focus away from his sword as most have it sheathed. All of his specials would be unique in their own right as projectile, tornadoes, invisibility cloaks, etc. with him bringing out his sword with his normal and Smash attacks and since he is attacking from the sheathe all his attacks would be completely different from any other sword user. Just food for thought.
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's idea alot. He would have to depend on sheathing alot to stay true to that iado fashion. And giving him the ability to deflect his own stuff other than others' (at least through normal attacks) would give him more competitive options for all the reflection happy fighters out there (Looking at you 
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Welcome back PL. Added you since you're still an honorary ronin like the rest of us.
I'd argue that Mario and Spammus players are far more predictable in For Glory. But yeah, we want our samurai to be as flashy and skilled as possible instead of being a spam happy character with few defensive options. However Sakurai chooses to portray him, it would have to reflect Murasame Castle's fast paced action focused gameplay well (I mean the original of course since there is no reboot just yet).I agree with
We want to make him as tricky of a fighter as possible so he won't be as predictable as your average For Glory Link player (No offense to those who do happen to main him).
Poor Scalebound. Not that I wanted to by an Xbox One just to play it.
I beleive we' e discussed this multiple times.
Agreed. Both of them are good options either way. Team Ninja takes care of Dead or Alive and the rebooted Ninja Gaiden titles while Omega Force is mostly Warriors (while recently doing new games lately). They would be a good fit since they are all about that Japanese culture and experience in developing action games.
Pretty sure both are the same thing. It's probably their way of explaining it properly so people wouldn't get confused. No representation in the West (while somewhat untrue since Samurai Warriors 3 and Nintendo Land were a thing), is accurate enough since the game was finally brought to the 3DS far too late during Smash's development. They would have made him a character if for a little early promotion, but it was far too big of a risk for them to take or he never would have knew the game would be bought Westward.
Even if Takamaru were included in Smash 4 at the time, he probably would have gotten hate for being a swordsman. Remember the initial backlash with Shulk's inclusion? Imagine if Takamaru were added after that in addition to the Fire Emblem characters we have now.
You hit the nail on the head.
This. Does Sakurai legitimately care about the vocal minority that are against a certain character? Maybe if we remember what happened with Pichu.
Is it wrong that I laughed at how hilariously accurate these quotes are?
R.I.P. Pichu.
Did you seriously say "sword-ism"?
I could do without seeing more "-isms" and "-phobias", but that's just me.
and playing similarly. And if people just want them to be differentiated more that's a valid complaint, but otherwise all the characters who use swords and aren't clones/semi-clones by design play differently.
Yeah, we can do without them TBH.I could do without seeing more "-isms" and "-phobias", but that's just me.
Back on topic though, the whole argument against sword users has never made much sense to me. Even if two characters use a similar weapon it's all in how they actually use/wield said weapon. It's no different than if people suddenly started complaining that too many characters in Street Fighter use kicks (which is pretty much everyone except Balrog and Dudley.)
The complaint more than likely stems from the likes of
being the big burly European swordsman with slower stronger strikes. being a jack of all trades with the standard swordsmanship we all know and love along with his trademark "stuff". as the closest thing we will ever get to a fencer with a heavy reliance on how great his tip is in combat. with his spearing attacks from shapeshifting and other unorthodox sword strikes from his Omega Yato (doubling as a chainsaw nonetheless). with his focus on weapon durability and magic in addition to the standard elemental swordsmanship. And with his Monado powers dictating his overall stats despite being a slightly quicker "heavy swordsman" than Ike. and 's popularity). The detractors shook focus more on these factors than "lol swordsmen are so copy paste boring in Smash". Even if those clones were removed, they would still complain regardless.
See, you get it. Swords aren't boring unless their styles are similar and even Taka has enough tricks up his sleeve. Shame Sakurai wanted to play things safe when most of his audience would have been confused with his addition (even with those cameos). Maybe next time he can rise from the sun.
Out of curiosity, was the Game Boy Advance region free at the time or you had a Japanese GBA?