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The Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town, Shantae for SSB4 (WayForward wants her in Smash)

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Are these polls being protected against botting? Straw polls like these are usually ripe for this kind of thing.

I only ask because a washed up Hollywood actor is getting more votes than popular Nintendo characters.
 
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Update: Shantae has 2600 votes and counting

Are these polls being protected against botting? Straw polls like these are usually ripe for this kind of thing.

I only ask because a washed up Hollywood actor is getting more votes than popular Nintendo characters.
Don't worry you can only vote once per poll(unless you have a different device). But it won't be necessary because our half genie hero has a lot of support(20K to give an estimate) along with a growing fandom in Japan.
 

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Well, I chose to download Shantae for GBC...

Hopefully, I can get out of Scuttle Town before my first class tomorrow!
 

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Also look at how many voters Etika is getting for this one straw poll.

Over 19,000 votes. That is more than I can say for most straw polls.
Well, I chose to download Shantae for GBC...

Hopefully, I can get out of Scuttle Town before my first class tomorrow!
I hope you enjoy the adventure then lol.
 

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Well; I haven't posted here in a long while, have I? Only 3 days left to go! I still support Shantae, and although I have ignored that silly poll that Etika made since it honestly means nothing in the end, I suppose I will say that seeing that many true votes (not any false ones) for her is surprising. Still, I just hope she's just doing well in the actual ballot (I suspect she is, honestly).
 

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Finally made it to October.

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Well; I haven't posted here in a long while, have I? Only 3 days left to go! I still support Shantae, and although I have ignored that silly poll that Etika made since it honestly means nothing in the end, I suppose I will say that seeing that many true votes (not any false ones) for her is surprising. Still, I just hope she's just doing well in the actual ballot (I suspect she is, honestly).
While you may believe it means nothing you have to remember that it's not just us fans that browse the internet. Mr. Sakurai and his team is also looking at these polls for evidence of fans desire for said character(s).

While this poll may be silly now but the poll he intends to do on FRIDAY is the one that will give us a hint to how much Shantae's popularity has grown(hopefully enough to draw the attention of Masahiro Sakurai).
 

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Finally made it to October.

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While you may believe it means nothing you have to remember that it's not just us fans that browse the internet. Mr. Sakurai and his team is also looking at these polls for evidence of fans desire for said character(s).

While this poll may be silly now but the poll he intends to do on FRIDAY is the one that will give us a hint to how much Shantae's popularity has grown(hopefully enough to draw the attention of Masahiro Sakurai).
Yeah, you have a point, but it's hard to take the poll seriously due to some of the troll characters that are on there. If they weren't there, I would probably take it 50% more seriously and consider it something important. Either way, as long as this poll on Friday (which should include Shantae) goes well with no issues and no dumb troll characters are present on it, I suppose I will say it will be very significant to see the results of it.
 
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Yeah, you have a point, but it's hard to take the poll seriously due to some of the troll characters that are on there. If they weren't there, I would probably take it 50% more seriously and consider it something important. Either way, as long as this poll on Friday (which should include Shantae) goes well with no issues and no dumb troll characters are present on it, I suppose I will say it will be very significant to see the results of it.
The poll on Friday will have the top five characters with the most votes(Shantae is currently 4th in the amount of votes she has) so Friday's poll will be all the more serious.
 

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Well, it's safe to say that Shantae isn't surpassing Shovel Knight in the first stages of the poll. Considering it's both of the indie frontrunners in the Top 5 though, I'll accept this. (Sorry Quote, not that there's anything wrong with you, but the fanbase seems to have agreed that you've had your day in the sun.)

It's good to finally have a poll with thousands of voters that is actually IP-locked for once, and better still to see once-underrated characters coming out on top. I'm actually kind've interested to see how the final five will end.
 

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Well, it's safe to say that Shantae isn't surpassing Shovel Knight in the first stages of the poll. Considering it's both of the indie frontrunners in the Top 5 though, I'll accept this. (Sorry Quote, not that there's anything wrong with you, but the fanbase seems to have agreed that you've had your day in the sun.)

It's good to finally have a poll with thousands of voters that is actually IP-locked for once, and better still to see once-underrated characters coming out on top. I'm actually kind've interested to see how the final five will end.
I wouldn't count Quote out. He's arguably the biggest indie character in Japan seeing as that's where he originated. Wouldn't be surprised if we got Quote as a Japanese indie rep, Shovel Knight as a Western indie rep, and then Shantae as the middleman/woman as she has presence in both areas.
 

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Have some Shantae cuteness for breakfast.

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1. I'm actually glad that Yacht Club and Wayforward is (somewhat) cool with the idea of a Shantae x Shovel Knight game, I'd totally buy that

2. BOZON STOP FREAKING TEASING US
 
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Update: Shantae has over 3100 votes and counting.
 

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Is it weird that i'm legitimately expecting Shovel Knight and Shantae now? :laugh:

I mean, i also expecting other characters entirely. Because with my luck, no one i want will even be mii costumes. :laugh:
 

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Is it weird that i'm legitimately expecting Shovel Knight and Shantae now? :laugh:

I mean, i also expecting other characters entirely. Because with my luck, no one i want will even be mii costumes. :laugh:
Matt Bozon likes to tease and troll a lot. :T

If neither get in, at least their games may get battle modes or hopefully a crossover of sorts.
 
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Finally made it to October.

BELL TOLLS

48 Hours Remaining!!!



While you may believe it means nothing you have to remember that it's not just us fans that browse the internet. Mr. Sakurai and his team is also looking at these polls for evidence of fans desire for said character(s).

While this poll may be silly now but the poll he intends to do on FRIDAY is the one that will give us a hint to how much Shantae's popularity has grown(hopefully enough to draw the attention of Masahiro Sakurai).
I guarantee you that Sakurai and his team are not paying attention to Etika's poll. I also guarantee you that neither NoA or NoE are either.

Edit: Keep in mind this isn't a dig on Shantae, Shovel Knight, or whoever appears in that poll of his. I support Shantae btw. It's just that Nintendo doesn't look at these kinds of things, they'll be paying attention only to the Ballot.
 
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I guarantee you that Sakurai and his team are not paying attention to Etika's poll. I also guarantee you that neither NoA or NoE are either.

Edit: Keep in mind this isn't a dig on Shantae, Shovel Knight, or whoever appears in that poll of his. I support Shantae btw. It's just that Nintendo doesn't look at these kinds of things, they'll be paying attention only to the Ballot.
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I guarantee you that Sakurai and his team are not paying attention to Etika's poll. I also guarantee you that neither NoA or NoE are either.

Edit: Keep in mind this isn't a dig on Shantae, Shovel Knight, or whoever appears in that poll of his. I support Shantae btw. It's just that Nintendo doesn't look at these kinds of things, they'll be paying attention only to the Ballot.
Do you know Sakurai personally to be able to say things like that?

If the answer is NO then you can't really say anything. Heck, did people forget the reason why Mewtwo is back in Smash 4?
 

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I'm, uh, actually pretty sure Sakurai tweeted that guy's reaction to Mewtwo, so if anything he's the one person... they might actually be looking at???
 

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Do you know Sakurai personally to be able to say things like that?

If the answer is NO then you can't really say anything. Heck, did people forget the reason why Mewtwo is back in Smash 4?
Him, Roy, and Lucas came back because of fan reaction of Brawl...
 
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Do you know Sakurai personally to be able to say things like that?

If the answer is NO then you can't really say anything. Heck, did people forget the reason why Mewtwo is back in Smash 4?
It certainly wasn't because of Etika.

Mewtwo is back in Smash 4 because he was always planned for it but didn't make it due to time constraints.

I'm not trying to deride your work of gathering everyone who backed Half-Genie Hero or anything, I just don't think anyone official is eyeballing this poll when they have their own, official, Ballot to look at for all the evidence they need. They don't NEED this poll, they have the real numbers right in front of them. So while it's very nice that Shantae gets 3500 votes on a Youtube poll on a popular channel, Sakurai already has Shantae's true votes in front of him.

It's not out of apathy, it's out of lack of necessity.

This will be the last post I make on this, or else I'll start to come off as a detractor or troll myself.

Edit: So yes, this poll can do very well to help validate Shantae in the eyes of other Smash fans (a wee bit too late to help swing votes, but at least it increases the sample size of what we already have in fan polls), but Sakurai, and Nintendo, already know Shantae's true outcome.
 
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It certainly wasn't because of Etika.

Mewtwo is back in Smash 4 because he was always planned for it but didn't make it due to time constraints.

I'm not trying to deride your work of gathering everyone who backed Half-Genie Hero or anything, I just don't think anyone official is eyeballing this poll when they have their own, official, Ballot to look at for all the evidence they need. They don't NEED this poll, they have the real numbers right in front of them. So while it's very nice that Shantae gets 3500 votes on a Youtube poll on a popular channel, Sakurai already has Shantae's true votes in front of him.

It's not out of apathy, it's out of lack of necessity.

This will be the last post I make on this, or else I'll start to come off as a detractor or troll myself.

Edit: So yes, this poll can do very well to help validate Shantae in the eyes of other Smash fans (a wee bit too late to help swing votes, but at least it increases the sample size of what we already have in fan polls), but Sakurai, and Nintendo, already know Shantae's true outcome.
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Next time use a Japanese text meme. It will hold up better in a argument.

Fan demand is the reason all the DLC characters so far have happened.

And out of ALL the straw polls fans created only ETIKA has reached over 20,000 votes. Even the Reddit poll that Shantae won only has her with 200+ votes. THAT should tell you something.
 

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fyhryteyttrtydtyetye

Next time use a Japanese text meme. It will hold up better in a argument.

Fan demand is the reason all the DLC characters so far have happened.

And out of ALL the straw polls fans created only ETIKA has reached over 20,000 votes. Even the Reddit poll that Shantae won only has her with 200+ votes. THAT should tell you something.
You've been taking the ballot way too seriously, dude.
 
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Next time use a Japanese text meme. It will hold up better in a argument.

Fan demand is the reason all the DLC characters so far have happened.

And out of ALL the straw polls fans created only ETIKA has reached over 20,000 votes. Even the Reddit poll that Shantae won only has her with 200+ votes. THAT should tell you something.
I wasn't really trying to make a point or back an argument as much as I was being facetious but I'll keep that in mind next time I'm fishing for Sakurai memes, thank you.

Can't believe the voting's almost done, glad to see I'm not the only one here anxious about the result

Anyway, looks like it's that time of the year again:


http://fernalred.deviantart.com/art/Rawr-525602836
I would certainly not mind if I found this particular zombie popping out of the ground.
 
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I won't lie, I really don't give two @#$%s about Etika, nor am I really enthused about the biggest poll we've had having been just because of one man's fanbase. But the fact remains that it's still the biggest poll we've had, and it's towards the end of the ballot, so it's the best yardstick for the ballot that we're going to get.

I just wish we knew more about the ballot itself, ideally how many characters they're going to pick from it. They need to say something about it on the 3rd.
 
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I won't lie, I really don't give two @#$%s about Etika, nor am I really enthused about the biggest poll we've had having been just because of one man's fanbase. But the fact remains that it's still the biggest poll we've had, and it's towards the end of the ballot, so it's the best yardstick for the ballot that we're going to get.

I just wish we knew more about the ballot itself, ideally how many characters they're going to pick from it. They need to say something about it on the 3rd.
Well here's hoping they don't needlessly keep us in the dark for much longer. We've been without news of a character since Royucas in June. Unfortunately I feel that they will do just that.
 

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It's obvious than Bran-Son will be the Wayforward rep Sakurai will pick anyway

(From GameFreakDX)
 
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I won't lie, I really don't give two @#$%s about Etika, nor am I really enthused about the biggest poll we've had having been just because of one man's fanbase. But the fact remains that it's still the biggest poll we've had, and it's towards the end of the ballot, so it's the best yardstick for the ballot that we're going to get.

I just wish we knew more about the ballot itself, ideally how many characters they're going to pick from it. They need to say something about it on the 3rd.
Gotta give etika a break, he's already got ghost following him as of last night. If you don't what I'm talking about watch and listen in this video at :30 & 1:23.
 

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To be perfectly honest,... I really dislike all of these fan polls. So many fans treat these things like they are as credible as the ballot itself... well I got news for everyone.

These are NOT an accurate representation of how a particular fighter is doing in this as a whole. Everyone keeps treating these things like they mean the world for their campaign when they DON'T. Some people take these things way too seriously..

1. These polls can be rigged, and often times, people bot and spam them. Troll characters or otherwise..

2. They only show the picture of just a fraction of the fanbase.. These polls only run for a few days.. or a week at most. Plus, most of the time you are only getting the opinions of folks on that particular site. (Assuming it's a poll on a site, and not a straw poll.. which I ignore even more than site polls XD)

3. There can be bias. A lot of times, certain characters will be given more votes than others. (This can even occur for campaigns we support) I myself hate this, as it can be deceptive, and make fans think a character is doing well, when they actually don't mean a thing.. since it's been rigged in their favor.


The only true source of information on who will possibly be getting in through the ballot... is the ballot itself. Considering how we don't have any info on the results yet... Yeah.
 
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Etika's poll is unlikely to impact many votes in the actual Smash ballot, since the ballot ends in two days anyways. However it's not inconceivable that it could swing some last minute votes if Etika puts out a video on the top 5 ballot characters today or tomorrow. Since putting in a vote and sharing the link with Shantae supporters only a couple of seconds anyway, I'd say it's worth the time to do so for that reason alone.

Sakurai and Nintendo will be looking primarily at results from the official Smash ballot, so after October 3 we can basically consider the task of campaigning for Shantae to be finished. After October 3, the deluge of character polls will subside, making and sharing Shantae fan art will be just for fun, and there will be no need anymore to respond to every moron on the internet who decides to publicly badmouth Shantae.

That being said, Sakurai and Nintendo will still notice community opinions outside of the ballot to at least some extent. They take notice of community opinion on other matters, after all. Etika's poll and videos are probably not going to be the difference maker for who gets into Smash, but they are a non-trivial part of all the peripheral information available to Nintendo on community preferences.

Let's put it this way: you have to imagine that Sakurai and some other bigwigs are going to sit down in one or maybe a few different meetings and look at what data they have compiled from the ballot. They will go through a decently long list of characters and discuss briefly the pros and cons of each character, and whether they are worthy of more careful consideration. Those brief little conversations are going to decide the fates of most of the ballot characters. You add in an Etika poll here or there, and that could be enough to cause somebody sitting in that meeting to say something along the lines of: "also, community interest in this Shantae character appears to have continued its upward trend since the close of the online ballot." That could matter a lot, and that's why it's worth getting as many backers as possible to vote in this Etika poll, even though the ballot is about to close.





Speaking of Etika's poll, here's the current top 5, compiled from across all three of his polls:
1. Snake 4370
2. Shovel Knight 3908
3. Banjo-Kazooie 3571
4. Shantae 3342
5. Inklings 3213

The only change in placements is that BK and Inklings swapped places, with Shantae surpassing Inklings to stay put at 4th place in between them. Also the votes are slowing down now across the board.

GoldLiger GoldLiger mentioned that there are around 20,000 backers for HGH. If we got even just 1-2% of them to put in a vote for Shantae in Etika's ballot, then Shantae would shoot up to #3, which would be seriously awesome. 5% of them voting would put her in first. I wonder if maybe WayForward would put out an update on their HGH kickstarter page asking backers to vote in the poll? Not sure how else to dig up more Shantae voters. It would be nice if we could just reach out directly ourselves.





.... Question for you guys: why all this distaste for Etika? I don't watch him regularly or anything, but he seems pretty inoffensive to me. Shouldn't we just be happy that such a well-known YouTuber has a soft spot for Shantae?
 

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Etika's poll is unlikely to impact many votes in the actual Smash ballot, since the ballot ends in two days anyways. However it's not inconceivable that it could swing some last minute votes if Etika puts out a video on the top 5 ballot characters today or tomorrow. Since putting in a vote and sharing the link with Shantae supporters only a couple of seconds anyway, I'd say it's worth the time to do so for that reason alone.

Sakurai and Nintendo will be looking primarily at results from the official Smash ballot, so after October 3 we can basically consider the task of campaigning for Shantae to be finished. After October 3, the deluge of character polls will subside, making and sharing Shantae fan art will be just for fun, and there will be no need anymore to respond to every moron on the internet who decides to publicly badmouth Shantae.

That being said, Sakurai and Nintendo will still notice community opinions outside of the ballot to at least some extent. They take notice of community opinion on other matters, after all. Etika's poll and videos are probably not going to be the difference maker for who gets into Smash, but they are a non-trivial part of all the peripheral information available to Nintendo on community preferences.

Let's put it this way: you have to imagine that Sakurai and some other bigwigs are going to sit down in one or maybe a few different meetings and look at what data they have compiled from the ballot. They will go through a decently long list of characters and discuss briefly the pros and cons of each character, and whether they are worthy of more careful consideration. Those brief little conversations are going to decide the fates of most of the ballot characters. You add in an Etika poll here or there, and that could be enough to cause somebody sitting in that meeting to say something along the lines of: "also, community interest in this Shantae character appears to have continued its upward trend since the close of the online ballot." That could matter a lot, and that's why it's worth getting as many backers as possible to vote in this Etika poll, even though the ballot is about to close.





Speaking of Etika's poll, here's the current top 5, compiled from across all three of his polls:
1. Snake 4370
2. Shovel Knight 3908
3. Banjo-Kazooie 3571
4. Shantae 3342
5. Inklings 3213

The only change in placements is that BK and Inklings swapped places, with Shantae surpassing Inklings to stay put at 4th place in between them. Also the votes are slowing down now across the board.

GoldLiger GoldLiger mentioned that there are around 20,000 backers for HGH. If we got even just 1-2% of them to put in a vote for Shantae in Etika's ballot, then Shantae would shoot up to #3, which would be seriously awesome. 5% of them voting would put her in first. I wonder if maybe WayForward would put out an update on their HGH kickstarter page asking backers to vote in the poll? Not sure how else to dig up more Shantae voters. It would be nice if we could just reach out directly ourselves.





.... Question for you guys: why all this distaste for Etika? I don't watch him regularly or anything, but he seems pretty inoffensive to me. Shouldn't we just be happy that such a well-known YouTuber has a soft spot for Shantae?
I like the guy but I think we can all agree on his fanbase though... or at least parts of it.
 
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.... Question for you guys: why all this distaste for Etika? I don't watch him regularly or anything, but he seems pretty inoffensive to me. Shouldn't we just be happy that such a well-known YouTuber has a soft spot for Shantae?
They're all just jealous of that haircut kappa
 

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To be perfectly honest,... I really dislike all of these fan polls. So many fans treat these things like they are as credible as the ballot itself... well I got news for everyone.

These are NOT an accurate representation of how a particular fighter is doing in this as a whole. Everyone keeps treating these things like they mean the world for their campaign when they DON'T. Some people take these things way too seriously..

1. These polls can be rigged, and often times, people bot and spam them. Troll characters or otherwise..

2. They only show the picture of just a fraction of the fanbase.. These polls only run for a few days.. or a week at most. Plus, most of the time you are only getting the opinions of folks on that particular site. (Assuming it's a poll on a site, and not a straw poll.. which I ignore even more than site polls XD)

3. There can be bias. A lot of times, certain characters will be given more votes than others. (This can even occur for campaigns we support) I myself hate this, as it can be deceptive, and make fans think a character is doing well, when they actually don't mean a thing.. since it's been rigged in their favor.


The only true source of information on who will possibly be getting in through the ballot... is the ballot itself. Considering how we don't have any info on the results yet... Yeah.
Love them or hate them, they do influence who people support significantly, so we can't ignore them (until Saturday anyway).
 
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