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I fully support what @Mighty Minotaur is saying on the comment section. He is a really good guy, and I appreciate his support for Shantae. Please make sure that you follow him, because he is a rue Shantae fan! Also, don't forget to follow me too!Hey guys! I need some help.
I saw the trailer for the Smash Bros. Crusade update, and noticed a lot of Shantae positivity in the comments below.
A guy by the name of 5th Kie (The rest of his name has ... so I'm assuming that his full YouTube name is "5th Kie...") made this comment:
"SHANTAE MOTHER*******!!!!! FIRST CRUSADE, THEN FOR WII U!!!! #VoteForShantae #ShantaeForSmash"
I joined the hype band wagon, but a couple comments later, some guy shows up and starts blasting us for supporting Shantae. Now, YouTube has been very buggy recently, with comments disappearing and reappearing at random. I've been fending off his arguments (Which have been very bad, but he doesn't seem to think so) but he's really starting to wear me down.
Another thing is that his grammar is very, very bad. I'm not normally a grammar nazi, but this guy is going to kill me.
This was his most recent comment (In response to me generally saying that he should slow down when he types, and that he should stop arguing because I've basically debunked his arguments. He also believes that I've somehow been deleting his comments because I'm scared of him.)
"+Mighty Minotaur lol you talk about my grammar when your grammar alone is ****.You didn't debunked anything instead of showing foolish comment and avoiding most of my comments.1 if you would have debunked anything then you wouldn't been scared to ask for my comments to be deleted but hey,i couldn't expect less from peoples who likes stupid characters lol.I proved your comments are invalid i have the satisfaction .Hell wasted enough time of my life with scared peoples"
I would greatly appreciate help ASAP. Here's the link. (Just scroll down through the comments, you'll know it when you see it.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7HUkK67JFE
If you don't have a YouTube account, I would greatly appreciate some advice on what to do with this guy. Thanks!
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WE DO NOT NEED FOODMust...have.
Must...have...Shantae...Amiibo!!!
This scene was everything when it first came out lol
Answer.I need help:
Apparently, someone decided to argue with me saying that Wayforward has done NOTHING to help Nintendo with, and said Nintendo was helping them the whole time. Acting like Wayforward is helpless, and just there doing nothing. He's NOT a Shantae hater, don't worry. But he decided to bug me and act like I'm some idiot (or some 10 year old).
So I need someone to help me with Wayforward's history when it comes to Nintendo. Yes, I know that they LOVE Nintendo and all, but I need more of their backstory, so I can shut this guy up. >_<
To be honest, if the game was made by Nintendo's own hands, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion right now.Answer.
Shantae 1 was supported by Capcom.
That is all.
And I believe her games and many other Wayforward products was mainly by their own hands, not Nintendo's.
Tell him to do research.
Basically put, if Nintendo had been helping them the entire time... "where" are they? Where is this support? What happened to all of those cancelled Shantae concepts?... If Nintendo "really" had been helping them, Shantae would be considered a full on first party (or second, whatever).. and for that matter, many of the cancelled games would have seen the light of day.. (they probably never did, because Wayforward is considered an INDIE DEVELOPER... (The very definition states "video games (commonly referred to as indie games) created by individuals or small teams generally without video game publisher financial support. Indie games often focus on innovation and rely on digital distribution.)I need help:
Apparently, someone decided to argue with me saying that Wayforward has done NOTHING to help Nintendo with, and said Nintendo was helping them the whole time. Acting like Wayforward is helpless, and just there doing nothing. He's NOT a Shantae hater, don't worry. But he decided to bug me and act like I'm some idiot (or some 10 year old). He was even saying that GOKU has a better chance -_-
So I need someone to help me with Wayforward's history when it comes to Nintendo. Yes, I know that they LOVE Nintendo and all, but I need more of their backstory, so I can shut this guy up. >_<
Well, not exactly, unless Wayforward was owned by Nintendo, making it either 1st or 2nd party at least. But I get what you mean, I was thinking the same thing anyways.To be honest, if the game was made by Nintendo's own hands, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion right now.
It be considered a first party, and she would probably would have already ended up in the roster by now.. lol XD
another thing, that guy blitz mentioned sounds like a troll to me.. only a troll would come up with something hilarious like that... either that, or a moron.
I posted a comment on IGN saying Isaac (from Golden Sun) for Smash. Some guy responded to me saying that he doesn't deserve to be in because we don't need no more Fire Emblem characters :/Ok.. so steering away from that, just to get a topic going..
What is the dumbest/most ridiculous argument you have heard against a character campaign you like (including this one)?
Ok.. so steering away from that, just to get a topic going..
What is the dumbest/most ridiculous argument you have heard against a character campaign you like (including this one)?
Rayman shouldn't be in Smash because he's more of a Sony character. I've literally heard people say this.Ok.. so steering away from that, just to get a topic going..
What is the dumbest/most ridiculous argument you have heard against a character campaign you like (including this one)?
You know I think what makes Shantae kind of a notch above those examples is that, well, she actually seems to be enjoying herself and having fun when she's ""sexy""
....Yeah....This is the stupidest one I remember WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BACK after Smash 4 was announced at E3 2011:
"Shantae never appeared on any Nintendo systems ! Plus she wouldn't fit with the likes of Mario besides Goku or Naruto are better and would make it in before her !"
I've never face palmed so bad infact I double handed facepalmed XD
Looks nice. Nicely done on her figure.View attachment 70717 Another Shantae for y'all. Give me a yeah on Miiverse if ya happen to be by.
Let's grant a wish! #Shantae4Smash #VoteForShantae
Thanks. She got hips for days yo!Looks nice. Nicely done on her figure.
What a silly argument. WayForward and Nintendo are both companies driven by profit, which operate in their own interests. Neither one of them is a charity. That being said, WayForward has consistently focused on developing games for Nintendo systems when they could easily have prioritized other consoles or Steam instead (as a lot of companies have). They have contributed a lot of high quality, exclusive content to Nintendo's eshop over the years. So clearly Nintendo is also benefiting from WayForward. WayForward has also benefited from Nintendo providing them a good set of platforms to develop for. That is why WayForward and Nintendo have such a good relationship with each other. They have been very good to each other over the years. They have a history worth recognizing.I need help:
Apparently, someone decided to argue with me saying that Wayforward has done NOTHING to help Nintendo with, and said Nintendo was helping them the whole time. Acting like Wayforward is helpless, and just there doing nothing. He's NOT a Shantae hater, don't worry. But he decided to bug me and act like I'm some idiot (or some 10 year old). He was even saying that GOKU has a better chance -_-
So I need someone to help me with Wayforward's history when it comes to Nintendo. Yes, I know that they LOVE Nintendo and all, but I need more of their backstory, so I can shut this guy up. >_<
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Soooooo cute! Dang this artist is good!
http://tran4of3.deviantart.com/art/ShantaeAmiibo-sml-556886142
Wow. This happened faster then I thought it would.
Here's a paraphrased version of Wayforward's history of titles made for Nintendo, and Shantae's history.I need help:
Apparently, someone decided to argue with me saying that Wayforward has done NOTHING to help Nintendo with, and said Nintendo was helping them the whole time. Acting like Wayforward is helpless, and just there doing nothing. He's NOT a Shantae hater, don't worry. But he decided to bug me and act like I'm some idiot (or some 10 year old). He was even saying that GOKU has a better chance -_-
So I need someone to help me with Wayforward's history when it comes to Nintendo. Yes, I know that they LOVE Nintendo and all, but I need more of their backstory, so I can shut this guy up. >_<
You underestimate the power of the internet, good sir!
http://tran4of3.deviantart.com/art/ShantaeAmiibo-sml-556886142
Wow. This happened faster then I thought it would.
Wow, nicely write up, thanks man. I may draw on that as a source if anyone ever asks me about the background of Shantae or WayForward.Here's a paraphrased version of Wayforward's history of titles made for Nintendo, and Shantae's history.
Wayforward has been making games since the start of the SNES era. While their first few games started on PC with the "WayForward fun pack", they later started to develop games together for the Game Boy and SNES. Believe it or not, for liscensed games, Wayforward had a suprising start, taking on some of the biggest names in media, like the Muppets and Mickey Mouse. Matt seemed to most excited about getting games he made for the Game Boy and SNES on the shelves, seated next to Super Mario World and Tetris.
Matt Bozon was in college around this time, with Wayforward being somewhat of a part time job. Erin, who was his fiance at that time, came up with an idea for a Video Game character: A genie girl who uses her long hair as a whip, and can dance to summon up magic, which she later trusted with Matt. (In Nintendo Power, Matt jokingly claims that their marrige was based on the act of trust that was Erin passing down Shantae to him. )
Liscensed title after liscensed title, Wayforward was hard at work, and Matt really wanted to get Shantae going. There were many design pitches, one for the SNES, PC, Playstation... But almost every time, they got the exact same response: Video Games starring female characters don't sell well. What a shame, really. This was shortly before Tomb Raider made it's debut, and sold like hotcakes.
Around the Game Boy Color era, Wayforward had a bit more money to burn, and started to make original titles like Xtreme Sports, which was recieved quite well. They later decided to finally make a full Shantae title, to be released on the system. (Erin Bozon, now married to Matt and recently came back from animating the first few season of Futarama, also helped with the game. She actually animated the sequence where Shantae enters a building in the towns.)
Published by Capcom (with the rights being bought back to continue the series later), Shantae did extremely well critically, being considering one of the best games on the GBC, as it pushed the system to it's limits. However, it didn't sell very well, as it was released too late in the system's lifecycle.
Wayforward continued developing games (one of those original titles being Sigma Star Saga for the GBA), which I eventually want to play), they tried a few more times to make a sequel for Shantae, and they were all on Nintendo platforms. There was the cancelled GBA title, a full 3D game for the Gamecube (which was shortly canned), and Wayforward even tried to make a sequel for the Wii. The only original game Wayforward made for the Wii was LIT, which was... Okay.
However, this story has a happy ending. When Nintendo started up DSiWare, Wayforward fully realized that they could self-publish games onto the system, and got to work right away, building up a fanbase through Mighty Flip Champs, Milky Way, and most importantly: The incredible amount of love and support from Nintendo Power!
And there is was: Risky's Revenge. Released for the DSiWare service, it was also critically acclaimed, and considering one of the greatest games to come out on the DSi.
With the release of the Wii U and 3DS, Wayforward decided to keep the ball rolling. Mighty Switch Force was one of the first games made for the 3DS eShop, and also became a hit, getting an upgraded version for Wii U, and a sequel... And do I even need to bring up Ducktales Remastered? Remaking one of the best games on the NES library? It also got an award for one of the best titles for the eShop upon releasing for the Wii U. But what did this mean for Shantae? ... A lot.
Now, with Wayforward's widespread recognition across the gaming community, Shantae came back with full force. Pirate's Curse was revealed on Nintendo Power, and was so big that it actually was a cover story! (If you were subscribed, anyway.) The Half-Genie Hero kickstarter came along, too, which got Shantae new fans, and gamers everywhere hyped up for our Half-Genie Hero.
I'll stop here.
You underestimate the power of the internet, good sir!
The funny part is that Rayman has had more games on Nintendo platforms than any other, mostly on the Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance (which had the only good version of Raving Rabbids)Rayman shouldn't be in Smash because he's more of a Sony character. I've literally heard people say this.
You're welcome!Here is another poll, first one I've seen since the Shovel Knight speculation. Let's crush it: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll400103x47f848ed-15?s=res
EDIT: Just FYI, I saw this on reddit, where the poll maker accidentally posted the link to the results rather than the poll itself. An hour after posting and he still hasn't fixed it. I posted the link to the poll itself in the comments, but if he never updates it in the OP, this could turn into a flop.
Wow, nicely write up, thanks man. I may draw on that as a source if anyone ever asks me about the background of Shantae or WayForward.
Yeah I can see the results and with my vote Shantae and SK are tied lol.Here is another poll, first one I've seen since the Shovel Knight speculation. Let's crush it: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll400103x47f848ed-15?s=res
EDIT: Just FYI, I saw this on reddit, where the poll maker accidentally posted the link to the results rather than the poll itself. An hour after posting and he still hasn't fixed it. I posted the link to the poll itself in the comments, but if he never updates it in the OP, this could turn into a flop.
People want that Issac?!Yeah I can see the results and with my vote Shantae and SK are tied lol.
EDIT: Actually the tie is between Issac(from The Bindings of Issac) and Shantae. Shovel Knight has two votes so far.