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The Greench Goes To A Tourny!

The Grinch

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I know there are vid threads, but I haven't been to a tourny---nor more importantly, haven't posted vids in a LONG time so I wanted to make my own thread, ha ha. Mods may delete if you don't want me taking up space ;)

Anyways I was only able to record 2 sets out of my 5 sets today due to camera dying! But both sets are against great smashers on these boards---Champ, and the deadly BoA.

NOTES:

- BoA matches on the way, those vids are on a different memory stick at the moment so I'll get 'em up tomorrow.

- Camera sucks I'm sorry, but my camera man was standing in a very crowded room, so just pay as much attention to the game as you can.

- Some people tend to only post vids they win in, however I am not doing that. Champ took a round on me, and BoA beat me senseless, but I like posting these vids however because I'm playing for one main reason, and that's to be the best Luigi player I can be. It's the reason I try my best to contribute to our Luigi community when I can...and the reason why I NEVER, and I mean have never switched characters during a match. Even today with my Luigi vs Metaknight, DDD and Marth. I play Luigi, to be the best I can. I'm not there simply to just counterpick. Sorry.

- Today was a great day to be in the community, and a great reason for you guys to also keep up the good work as Luigi. There's only one other professional/regular Luigi player in my area, so when I show up, it's always nice to meet new people (And old friends alike) who have heard good things about me because I represent the man in green.

Lesson here is....don't give up Luigi boards. We may NEVER beat MK/DDD or whoever, but it's not always about that. It's about doing your best, and making others glad to be playing him.

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VIDS: (vs BoA to be added tomorrow)

Match 1 vs CHAMP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbfBubKuSik

Match 2 vs CHAMP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNarMguTB9Y

Match 3 vs CHAMP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOAq-Iw7UR8


Thanks to EVERYONE who showed up today and gave me support. Like I said I met lots of great new people who follow my tourney hops, and I really appreciate the support you guys give me during the matches. Great match Champ, luck was on my side man, I hear you're too good and everyone was shocked I won today's match. Your record precedes you!

I'm The Greench baby.

~The Greench
 

The Grinch

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i play with Luigi, but i don't know much about his metagame, and i have a question for you, why do you walk instead of running?
Luigi's dash attack is too easy to punish, and doesn't have much knockback, so I don't want to be caught in that attack by mistake. Also, one of the bigger advanced games of Brawl most players don't utilize, is that while you are running you can only turn around by pivoting which can take time.

However, if you're walking, you can instantly dash in the other direction without a pivot animation, so it's insanely faster, and leads to huge mixups. If you watch in one of my vids (I THINK it's the first one vs champ) there's a moment where I walk towards Fox, and as soon as he gets near, I instantly dash the other one and pull an upsmash out. Two birds with one stone---I avoid a near grab/hit, and since Luigi's leans so far back with his upsmash, I catch Fox and whoever I pull it on every now and then.
 

CR4SH

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You can avoid both problems by canceling your dashes with shields. The turn around is just as fast, and you can pull any move out of a dash, not just a DA.
 

The Grinch

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You can avoid both problems by canceling your dashes with shields. The turn around is just as fast, and you can pull any move out of a dash, not just a DA.
Walking still works out best for me, because if my opponent reads my shielding he'll just grab when I approach (Which happens OFTEN).

Pull any move out of a dash??? You sure? As far as I know I can only usmash, Dash Attack, grab, and of course my specials. Or am I misunderstanding you?
 

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He meant out of a Shield Canceled Dash. I'd love to get used to walking instead of dashing, but I have trouble being gentle. I'm working on it though.
 

hippiedude92

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Walking gives the advantage of range of a dsmash because of how low traction's.

Shield cancel dashs are great. You can instantly powershield any projectile or attack as well.

also you can just basically shield cancel dash to a ftilt approach.
 

ALiAsVee

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Walking gives the advantage of range of a dsmash because of how low traction's.

Shield cancel dashs are great. You can instantly powershield any projectile or attack as well.

also you can just basically shield cancel dash to a ftilt approach.
I still like walking more, whats the rush :p. Lol hippie, it seems ftilt is the answer to everything for you xD. Not saying it isn't :p
 

ALiAsVee

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It is the answer :3 look at how many shield dash cancels are here espically by boss's mario. He goes into beast mode, with the reverse upairs and bairs, and still powershields.
I think it depends on the situation, but I find walking to be more reliable than shield dash cancel. I find myself to use both in one match though.
 

CR4SH

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One way or another I think it's important to get very comfortable with a shield cancel. Especially for a luigi.

I understand the argument for walking and the dsmash. Mostly to make it less easy to read. But I really think the added speed of dashing really is an advantage.

Hey, hey. Ho, ho. It's all up to you.
 

-Mars-

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Hey Greench, do you mind if I post these videos on the Fox boards?
 

Charoo

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the only time i decided to play brawl singles again and it got recorded haha

I'm not that good anymore since my mind set is on SF4 now. So take this as whatever you like. I got 3rd with edrees in teams if that matters.

imo, I lost cause I don't know how to fight luigi. Neutral air cancels everything I did.

p.s. legit john: when I was laying on sunday, my wrist is hurt pretty dang badly. After that tourney, I had to get a calf for my wrist on monday. I was playing tennis for too long on saturday haha. I guess I can take a picture if you don't believe me or something.

greench is pretty good though. I didn't really feel good or bad losing to him since I didn't expect to go very far at all.

i wish gamble vs me was recorded. The whole crowd at quizno was watching it.
 

The Grinch

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the only time i decided to play brawl singles again and it got recorded haha

I'm not that good anymore since my mind set is on SF4 now. So take this as whatever you like. I got 3rd with edrees in teams if that matters.

imo, I lost cause I don't know how to fight luigi. Neutral air cancels everything I did.

p.s. legit john: when I was laying on sunday, my wrist is hurt pretty dang badly. After that tourney, I had to get a calf for my wrist on monday. I was playing tennis for too long on saturday haha. I guess I can take a picture if you don't believe me or something.

greench is pretty good though. I didn't really feel good or bad losing to him since I didn't expect to go very far at all.

i wish gamble vs me was recorded. The whole crowd at quizno was watching it.
Champ!

Hey man, I don't know if I'm just reading too much into it but I hope you don't take my vid posting as like a, stab at you sort of like, "Ha ha I beat champ!!!" If I'm came off that way my bad! But I got that feeling reading your post so yeah really man I'm sorry if I came off that way.

Like I said too luck was on my side, I mean I heard lots of great things about you, and I can tell you're too good...I didn't even know Fox could combo into his dsmash, 'cuz I got hit with it tons.

Don't worry though I'm posting my vids of me vs BoA as soon as I get them off my friend's comp. Then everyone can see how terrible the Greench is, ha ha.

And uh, I'm sure you overheard Julian/RACE talking to me too, about SF4, so you know I'm GETTING HYPE for that too. The only reason I still play at smash tourneys is to keep the Luigi scene alive because the guy's too great. Other than that...piledrivers all day son. I've got a vid of Alex Valle's Sagat against my Gief on the first day I tried SF4. Too good! THAI GER THAI GER!
 

Charoo

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Champ!

Hey man, I don't know if I'm just reading too much into it but I hope you don't take my vid posting as like a, stab at you sort of like, "Ha ha I beat champ!!!" If I'm came off that way my bad! But I got that feeling reading your post so yeah really man I'm sorry if I came off that way.

Like I said too luck was on my side, I mean I heard lots of great things about you, and I can tell you're too good...I didn't even know Fox could combo into his dsmash, 'cuz I got hit with it tons.

Don't worry though I'm posting my vids of me vs BoA as soon as I get them off my friend's comp. Then everyone can see how terrible the Greench is, ha ha.

And uh, I'm sure you overheard Julian/RACE talking to me too, about SF4, so you know I'm GETTING HYPE for that too. The only reason I still play at smash tourneys is to keep the Luigi scene alive because the guy's too great. Other than that...piledrivers all day son. I've got a vid of Alex Valle's Sagat against my Gief on the first day I tried SF4. Too good! THAI GER THAI GER!
greeeeeench

i'm not mad at u man. Internet is too hard to see people emotion haha. I have no remorse at losing to you. You are a great player. I just feel that if I knew what Luigi can do to fox, I could have done much better. Why do u think I play cat and mouse after I found out I couldn't combo you haha.

People say crazy stuff about me because I use fox/sheik/falcon. I mean I'm good with them (before I stop playing and start playing SF4) but a good fox/sheik/falcon player is just an average brawl player if you know what I mean =(

BoA told me that you were really good. Too bad Boa have ROFL practice every week so he kinda know Luigi haha.

Also, yeah I'm glad you hype about SF4. That game is toooooooooooooooooooooooooo good. julian, me, and you should go to AI together soon hehe. I just love how Sagat say Thai-ger KNEE now haha.

You're a pretty cool guy. Very chill and relax. Sorry if my post seem like I was mad. I'm never mad at video games (except that one time where Ken beat me in melee haha jk)
 

The Grinch

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greeeeeench

i'm not mad at u man. Internet is too hard to see people emotion haha. I have no remorse at losing to you. You are a great player. I just feel that if I knew what Luigi can do to fox, I could have done much better. Why do u think I play cat and mouse after I found out I couldn't combo you haha.

People say crazy stuff about me because I use fox/sheik/falcon. I mean I'm good with them (before I stop playing and start playing SF4) but a good fox/sheik/falcon player is just an average brawl player if you know what I mean =(

BoA told me that you were really good. Too bad Boa have ROFL practice every week so he kinda know Luigi haha.

Also, yeah I'm glad you hype about SF4. That game is toooooooooooooooooooooooooo good. julian, me, and you should go to AI together soon hehe. I just love how Sagat say Thai-ger KNEE now haha.

You're a pretty cool guy. Very chill and relax. Sorry if my post seem like I was mad. I'm never mad at video games (except that one time where Ken beat me in melee haha jk)
Kickass man, good to know I didn't offend you =]

This probably sounds really noobish, but WOW, BoA said that about me??? I'm just super shocked because he practically 3 stocked me on his MK. Good ****, tell him thanks for the complement if you see him.

Julian's tight, yeah we should all ride to AI fo sho. We both play Gief, but my advantage is that I've been playing Gief for years, while Julian's been playing Hugo ;) I'm a Super Turbo player btw. I love SF3 don't get me wrong, but I've been playing 2 for what seems like forever.

Oh and Marsulas, SF4 = Street Fighter 4.
 

Charoo

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i see. I never actually play 3s before haha. Last one I play was sf2 but I guess the latest capcom game I play is cvs2. Two Gief and one Sagat? Haha

I don't want to turn this thread into sf4 discussion (every1 should go play it) so I'm going to stop.

Hit me up on aim or something so we can talk more about SF4, xuerarit
 
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