Volga
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She needs to jump inbetween the up b's right?
Not even optimized... they could of done so much more. Also that combo does 29%
Maybe up air > up b > up b > up air. Then throw platforms into the mix.
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meleebrawler
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Remember that you have to jump before you can do a second Witch Twist.
Not even optimized... they could of done so much more. Also that combo does 29%
Maybe up air > up b > up b > up air. Then throw platforms into the mix.
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Cutie Gwen
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From what I heard, Witch Time has strict timing for the time slowdown. I didn't catch any stream footage, is this true?
Mr_Kreep3r
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we should test if the jump is mandatory. Even then up b > upair >Dbl jump up b > upair?Remember that you have to jump before you can do a second Witch Twist.
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Over in WT thread we found this out 4-5 days ago her first frames of dodges trigger bat within
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Volga
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thats a neat trait of hers to have. i remember Rolling out of shield and being caught way too many times during the first frames. this is a good sub for it if that's the case.
I'm ok with that. i'll have to try all sorts of stuff when i'm accustomed to this character.
Mr_Kreep3r
Smash Apprentice
Nah but how you going to punish rolls that have built in passive? With lag too... For glory bayo will be the new little mac lol.
Erotic&Heretic
Smash Master
If I recall well, I've seen that we can punish the end of the rolls. I need to find were it was.
Edit: Here, her spotdodge is punished at the end, without Bat Within triggered. https://youtu.be/o3PNwEKzYnw?t=33
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BluePikmin11
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I'm so hyped to play as Bayonetta on Wednesday! The most I've been looking forward to out of all Smash DLC!
Mr_Kreep3r
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Yeah but, I've never been able to punish the end of a roll on FG while offline thats easy.
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My impressions of Bayonetta's aerials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_G-bqkb-Xw
She looks fun, and Witch Time looks good without being busted. I don't know how fast she is, but she doesn't look as fast as I thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_G-bqkb-Xw
She looks fun, and Witch Time looks good without being busted. I don't know how fast she is, but she doesn't look as fast as I thought.
Erotic&Heretic
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Lag is another problem. I think it's manageable (especially against those who backroll too much), but that a problem different from her design.
I'm not dissapointed in her speed at all, it's about what I expected and I don't think it's bad.
Even if she turns out to be slower than average I don't think it would matter when we have insane movement options with After Burner Kick and Heel Slide.
Even if she turns out to be slower than average I don't think it would matter when we have insane movement options with After Burner Kick and Heel Slide.
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Speculation is that her jab is frame 9.
https://twitter.com/SilentDo0m/status/693848815464480768
If that's the case, then her get-off-me game sounds pretty bad, unless it could be made up for in Bat Within or up-b.
https://twitter.com/SilentDo0m/status/693848815464480768
If that's the case, then her get-off-me game sounds pretty bad, unless it could be made up for in Bat Within or up-b.
Erotic&Heretic
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Well, jab isn't always the fastest option. I'm thinking of Zelda, for example, whose Dtilt is faster than the jab.
Anyway, the dodges with bat within will probably help her getting away a lot. Especially in some multihits moves.
Anyway, the dodges with bat within will probably help her getting away a lot. Especially in some multihits moves.
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Honestly, bayo is everything I thought she was going to be: light, can rack up damage nicely, difficulty killing outside of wicked weaves, and meh run speed.
Her moves come out a bit faster than I thought they would, but they are still slower. It looks like after burner kick into the ground will be a nice way to set up combos, but we shall see. It is going to take a good while before we will see how far she can be pushed when optimized.
Her moves come out a bit faster than I thought they would, but they are still slower. It looks like after burner kick into the ground will be a nice way to set up combos, but we shall see. It is going to take a good while before we will see how far she can be pushed when optimized.
Mr_Kreep3r
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If you hold A jab becomes fox lasers... Fox lasers is frame 11 and has a ton of end lag... and up tilt looks like a get off me and maybe down tilt.
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I could imagine aerial approaches with bullet n-air (unless holding down the A button were to impact the endlag of an aerial). Pressure like that could potentially force an approach against other characters.
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If the first few frames where she would be vulnerable during dodges trigger Bat Within, I'm assuming the mechanic is there to feel similar to the games without being stupidly overpowered (triggering Witch Time). I'm guessing her standard dodges have bad frame data to encourage users to dodge with Bat Within, and at the same time dodging with Bat Within would reward you by letting you punish a lot of things.
AeroLink_the_SoulMaster
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Someone should make a video thread so I can sticky it. I could do it myself... but I probably won't have the time to manage it.
Tobi_Whatever
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From what I've seen so far, it actually doesn't seem that strict. Plus you have Bat Within as failsafe.
Mr_Kreep3r
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I found yet another non optimized roof combo.
If they had landed a downward ABK into up B then up air it would of killed at 40%
Edit: Also she has better damage output than Sheik for sure.
If they had landed a downward ABK into up B then up air it would of killed at 40%
Edit: Also she has better damage output than Sheik for sure.
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It wouldn't, considering up-b to u-air didn't kill Marth at 100%+.I found yet another non optimized roof combo.
If they had landed a downward ABK into up then up air it would of killed at 40%
Mr_Kreep3r
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that was farther from the blast zone that combo you would be in the blast zone from up b. Downward ABK brings you pretty high up then witch twist brings them even higher.
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It was at 99% but that was on the bayo stage and we don't know the blast zones on that stage yet.
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Do you have any footage of downward ABK?
And yeah, that's true. On other stages (T&C even), that probably would have killed off the top.
Cutie Gwen
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She did it in her trailer on Pyrosphere
Hockeyfan44
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Aside from that horrific scream when she's launched, I cannot wait to play as Bayo. Since I'll never be able to afford a WIIU to get her games, this will be the closest I may ever get to playing as her, and I plan on training quite a bit to make the best use of her combo attacks.
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I took it upon myself to do it. I know I already "own" this thread, but I am very passionate about Bayonetta, so I have no problem with managing another. Heheh.
Ridel
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I just can't play the game cause my parents might have a fit lol. I wish I could though they look so relaxing (beating the ever living **** out of things).
Mr_Kreep3r
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Not even optimized... they could of done so much more. Also that combo does 29%
Maybe up air > up b > up b > up air. Then throw platforms into the mix.
Lorde
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iirc it was a strange camera angle, so we couldn't tell due to its ambiguity
I guess we'll have to wait until Wednesday to know for sure
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Mr_Kreep3r
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Wall jump and Witch Walk/Wall cling are most likely in if Sakurai has been this dedicated to her source material.
Hinata
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There was actually a short clip of that during Bayonetta's moveset breakdown in the Smash Broadcast. Here, look~I haven't looked, but I'm kind of surprised there aren't any images of Bayonetta and Ryu together doing their Tatsumaki; Bayonetta's Nair looks like a Tatsumaki and Ryu, well... TATSUMAKI SENPUKYAKU!
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Oh, I meant as an image... Maybe her classic or All-Stars image will have it... Also, Ryu getting splattered with bullets while she demonstrates her Tatsumaki.There was actually a short clip of that during Bayonetta's moveset breakdown in the Smash Broadcast. Here, look~
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Ohhhh, I get you now. I dunno, I feel like a gif makes it look cooler~Oh, I meant as an image... Maybe her classic or All-Stars image will have it... Also, Ryu getting splattered with bullets while she demonstrates her Tatsumaki.
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Am I the only one who saw this and instead thought it may have been a B-reversed witch time? Cuz having her roll being able to cancel into bat within, even at specific frames, seems kinda broken.