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I seriously doubt they are designing a game to kill one of their old games.Considering how Smash Ultimate looks like an attempt to finally kill Melee (it won't, but I appreciate the effort), I suspect Smash4 will also end up a casualty. Not necessarily a bad thing. If people don't play the new games as they come out, then uh... they will likely stop making new games and that's the darkest timeline.
Why not? It's not like Nintendo financially benefits from the Melee scene as isI seriously doubt they are designing a game to kill one of their old games.
Benefits don't come only from sales. The fact that people are staying on Melee divides the Smash Bros. community, so if their goal is to make everyone agree on a game, Ultimate becomes bigger, and the bigger the better. Not only in terms of game sales, but also a bigger community attracts more people, more viewership, more exposure, and more sponsors. Given how Nintendo seems interested in supporting the Smash Bros. esports scene, it is in their best interest to keep a maximum of good players and fans in one place rather than dividing the community.Why not? It's not like Nintendo financially benefits from the Melee scene as is
I highly doubt competitive Smash Wii U will be less popular than competitive Brawl. As of right now, practically the only events that have Brawl are those that are very Smash-centric and have all the games. I can't imagine Brawl getting any kind of a boost nor can I imagine Smash Wii U dropping below that threshold. Not to mention that Smash Wii U has been widely considered the better game on a number of factors.I don't think Smash Wii U has much of a future at all. Some things to keep in mind: Smash 64 is the first game in the series and very different from the other games, which gives it a niche. Melee is Melee. Brawl sold around 13 million copies and is played on the Wii, a popular console. Smash Wii U sold around 5 million copies and is played on the Wii U. From what we've seen, it's likely that Smash Ultimate will be more similar to Smash 4 than Smash 4 was to Brawl, which gives people less reason to play it. Also, keep in mind that Brawl had several characters that Smash Wii U didn't have (like Snake, Ice Climbers, and Wolf). The Switch has already sold better than the Wii U, too. Smash Wii U will have very little to offer Smash Ultimate players when it comes to content (maybe customs on-tournaments will have a niche, since it looks like Smash Ultimate won't have customs for non-Mii characters).
So, competitively, I think Smash Wii U will be even less popular than Brawl and Smash 64 some time after Smash Ultimate's release. I don't think I've seen a single people claim that they'll still play Smash Wii U competitively in 2019. Casually, I imagine quite a few people will still play Smash Wii U (and Smash 3DS, which has, as far as I know, pretty much died competitively).
Let it be known that if Smash 4 tourneys are still hosted alongside Smash Switch tourneys at locals I will definitely enter both. still love this game and would be happy to keep competing in it to some degree
— Remzi (Abu Laith) (@Remzi_SSB) May 14, 2018
Brawl didn't die after Smash 4, I don't see why Smash 4 will die after Ultimate.Smash 4 will die pretty quickly given that Smash Ultimate addresses nearly ALL the issues Smash 4 itself had such as
- Hazard Toggle
- Nearly every stage returning which coincides with point 1.
- Nerfing Defensive Options (Thank Goodness).
- Buffing everyone that isn't considered Top Tier
- Nerfing Bayonetta and Cloud
- Allowing more options in neutral thanks to dash-cancel
- Lowered Landing Lag across the cast
- Battlefield and Omega Versions now being completely identical
- Need I say more?
Brawl sold nearly three times as much as Smash Wii U though, and the Switch has already sold better than the Wii U, so switching over to Ultimate should be easier than switching over to Smash Wii U. Smash Wii U might not 100% die but competitively it'll likely drop severely, perhaps even lower than Brawl. Many/most local scenes will likely move over to Ultimate.Brawl didn't die after Smash 4, I don't see why Smash 4 will die after Ultimate.
I agree with this, Smash Wii U's death will come faster than Brawl, and the reason is in the title, it's Super Smash Bros. for WII U. In fact, I'd argue the only reason Brawl hung on at all was because of the Wii U.Brawl sold nearly three times as much as Smash Wii U though, and the Switch has already sold better than the Wii U, so switching over to Ultimate should be easier than switching over to Smash Wii U. Smash Wii U might not 100% die but competitively it'll likely drop severely, perhaps even lower than Brawl. Many/most local scenes will likely move over to Ultimate.
Okay yeah I make it sound like it'll die off immediately. The playerbase will definitely decrease slowly but surely. That's more of what I mean.I don't think it will die right away. Especially not if they have Smash 4 along side Ultimate at venues, people will compete. Probably will still be around the popularity of 64 maybe.