The Fundamentals of Melee (re-uploaded with HQ audio) + 2 new Tutorials!

[F Zero]

To my knowledge, in the last ten years, there has never been a video quite like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQxy26IijUA

This video teaches you how to fight an opponent, how to use the tools (techs) you've acquired. Keep in mind that this video is just basics, and I will elaborate on everything in the next video: "Advanced Fundamentals of Melee".

Moonwalk Guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGJeThNnbyw
Gentleman Guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atcUA-lH4Bs

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

This looks like it would be really useful for incoming players. Keep up the good work man!

 

[Luma]

"recover quickly"

bull****, if you wanna teach something do it right...

 

[the_CAM_factor]

this is definitely useful for people just getting into the game

 

[Rappster]

very nice.
my main critique would be that you should refer to the video more.
because i watch a lot of smash, i can tell that what you're talking about corresponds to what you're showing, but if you were to say stuff like
"watch how this sheik predicts falco's tech in place and punishes it with an upsmash" (at 7:40)
that would really make it clearer for new ppl

 

[CloneHat]

"recover quickly"

bull****, if you wanna teach something do it right...

Recovering slowly is not a good idea, I'm afraid.

I like the information in the video, and think it would be useful for friends of mine. It would be nice if the clips matched what you were saying, though, sometimes they're playing something else, and it can be distracting.

 

[JOS.fm]

parappa the rappster brings up a great point.

edit: this is a great video

 

[hectohertz]

one of the best intro videos i've ever seen

 

[Sinji]

Good stuff. Hope to see more from you.

 

[Teczer0]

I saw a bit of the video. Cool stuff. I'd like to add it to somewhere in video disc and the qna thread later.

Many thanks =3

 

[-ShadowPhoenix-]

very informative for beginners

 

[MasterShake]

Recovering slowly is not a good idea, I'm afraid.

Marth:

Samus:

Peach:

Jigglypuff:

 

[Zantetsu]

I found the video to be a great other half to Wak's tutorial videos. I've got a few friends who can do advance techs just fine, but don't understand why they're not getting better. These videos should help them out a lot. Looking forward to the next one.

very nice.
my main critique would be that you should refer to the video more.
because i watch a lot of smash, i can tell that what you're talking about corresponds to what you're showing, but if you were to say stuff like
"watch how this sheik predicts falco's tech in place and punishes it with an upsmash" (at 7:40)
that would really make it clearer for new ppl

I agree with this.

 

[F Zero]

thx for the input guys, my next will cater to all you vets

 

[KirbyKaze]

How to win at Melee:

Learn how far the opponent's SHFFL distance is (and other important attack techniques; obviously with Peach or something you want to know her float heights and how much she can move in that position). Position yourself outside that range (if you're on defense) and know how to play inside it (if you're on offense).

Know your own SHFFL distance (and appropriate attack technique ranges). So you can initiate, defend, and position effectively. Also know your hitboxes so you can beat moves, know what you can challenge, know where you're at advantage, etc.

Learn the relative properties (lag, startup, hitbox duration, hitboxes, etc.) of your opponent's important moves and then challenge, bait, dodge, or move around them accordingly.

Combo intelligently. I cannot stress enough. U-smash not good at 50 in Fox dittos on FD.

You should generally be trying to hold, or acquire a certain range or position. Or be doing something. "Nothing" counts as doing something but it also doesn't really do much for your position (though if you're already in a good position, it can be a beastly scare tactic and it also doesn't immediately worsen your position most of the time if you're on the defensive). Playing off "nothing" demands a lil' reaction time / prediction (because you're not really defending or doing anything).

 

[aRes_fuRy]

I have to say I am new to melee and I found this tremendously helpful. I also very much enjoyed your "How to Train your Falcon" video, since I am a falcon player these two videos helped me out a ton. Thanks F Zero!

 

[F Zero]

im guessing this hasn't picked up as much steam because it's not on waffle's channel, lol. either that, or there aren't enough players THIS new to the game. Either way, my next vid will be split into 2, maybe 3 parts and will be much more in-depth. It will cover Reading & Manipulation, and elaborate on the steps covered already.

What do you guys think wasn't covered enough?

 

[HT F8]

I also very much enjoyed your "How to Train your Falcon" video, since I am a falcon player these two videos helped me out a ton. Thanks F Zero!

I didn't even know about that Falcon video until reading your post. That video is amazing, it's been helping out a ton. :D

 

[Wenbobular]

Nice idea ... I guess ...

If you're going to continue doing this video series I'd suggest dissecting like ... players with much better execution than you <_<

Marth doing random double jump / full jump Fairs and then throwing out a random Fsmash vs Falcon is "keeping space"?

High Dairs on shield / in immediate dashdance grab range is "safe approach"?

Why is Roy even in this video, and how is "counter randomly" anything like "utilize hitstun" ... maybe showing some combos that abuse hitstun like ... Knee knee? Stomp knee? Maybe something like safe shield pressure (unless you think dropping down from the mountain with Bair is safe <_< at least the Bairs looked sufficiently late)

There was like 1 real combo in the "combo" section, everything else was like ... ._. what is this

At this point I realized there was actually commentary, so I watched the whole thing over up to edgeguarding

Why Roy???

First example in edgeguarding is a relatively low risk high reward read ... followed by Bairing a dead Falcon, probably the last thing you want to do because if he DId it better he might've had a 2nd chance =_=

Link???

Some not terrible edgeguarding (although they still look mad awkward) ... followed by Falcon grabbing Fox's illusion and following with an Ftilt into the stage ... great

Show clip of Bowser, no mention of up-b out of shield ... hmm ...
O I see, his shield is so BIG
And his SIDESTEP ... wait that's Mario sidestepping ... cuz Bowsers sidestep is terrible ...

I hate how the Fox recovers because I think he's doing it like, totally wrong ~_~

Whatever - not really trying to hate, but I think the examples reeeeeeeeally need some more work (or you can just like, take vids of Peepee playing or something <_<)

Interesting idea
Better clips
Characters no one plays like Roy would be better off in like their own tutorial if someone actually has trouble with them
Characters a few people play that are super cheap (like Luigi) should definitely get their own tutorial maybe I'll make one ...

 

[aRes_fuRy]

I didn't even know about that Falcon video until reading your post. That video is amazing, it's been helping out a ton. :D

Ya one of the best videos i have watched in melee for sure, has helped me out a lot. Even if you are not a falcon player the training techniques found here should be infinitely useful.

 

[Hydro_Smasher]

I guess its alright for new kids, but Wak's advanced how to SSBM worked fine for me in 2008. and after playing people, and watching videos (silent spectre) I kinda figured most things on my own

 

[F Zero]

haters. well im gonna get to work on fixing the audio...
but examples are examples.

edit: I think you're taking this way too serious wen. Im not about to match everything perfectly, that would take forever. My goal is to get the point across, the point being in the audio.

 

[F Zero]

1st video fixd + 2 new vids

 

[erbanez]

From one falcon to another, amazing job

 

[Myztek]

How to win at Melee:

Learn how far the opponent's SHFFL distance is (and other important attack techniques; obviously with Peach or something you want to know her float heights and how much she can move in that position). Position yourself outside that range (if you're on defense) and know how to play inside it (if you're on offense).

Know your own SHFFL distance (and appropriate attack technique ranges). So you can initiate, defend, and position effectively. Also know your hitboxes so you can beat moves, know what you can challenge, know where you're at advantage, etc.

Learn the relative properties (lag, startup, hitbox duration, hitboxes, etc.) of your opponent's important moves and then challenge, bait, dodge, or move around them accordingly.

Combo intelligently. I cannot stress enough. U-smash not good at 50 in Fox dittos on FD.

You should generally be trying to hold, or acquire a certain range or position. Or be doing something. "Nothing" counts as doing something but it also doesn't really do much for your position (though if you're already in a good position, it can be a beastly scare tactic and it also doesn't immediately worsen your position most of the time if you're on the defensive). Playing off "nothing" demands a lil' reaction time / prediction (because you're not really defending or doing anything).

Listen up to KirbyKaze, son.

 

[sirlaser]

Haters gonna hate.

Props++ F Zero.