The Founding of D Gamesia - Game over? Who scum wins reigned supreme in DGames?

[#HBC | J]

Also vocal's a feeling, don't think Vocal would of had the guts to attack me Day 1 as scum when I was the king.

o_O never knew you to be this odd Swords.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

o_O never knew you to be this odd Swords.

You're odd.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Your reasoning for things is terrible but I think that's coming with the fact it's 3am and no one has cared about this game in a long time.

At the current time, I can't honestly answer that question because the only strong scum-read I had was Zenny but now I gotta go back and look a few things over because this is a very odd cast of people to be left with. For me, it's looking like the pool to choose from is Nabe/Vocal/Soupa (though Soupa's off the table for toDay, I still need to look into him).

I'm not tired at all, and this is the gist of my overall reasoning anyways that I've held for awhile, just without fluff.

This reasoning is great and you know it.

Scum went hardcore on Soup

Soup went hardcore on scum back

Soup's not a good enough player to fake that ****

plus Soup has been playing obv. townie all game so whatever

 

[#HBC | J]

It's just that you are basing things off of gut and pure WIFOM/meta of something someone could or could not do.

*shrug*

I just got the impression that you were more analytical.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm not tired at all, and this is the gist of my overall reasoning anyways that I've held for awhile, just without fluff.

This reasoning is great and you know it.

Scum went hardcore on Soup

Soup went hardcore on scum back

Soup's not a good enough player to fake that ****

plus Soup has been playing obv. townie all game so whatever

But with a scum-team like OS/Zenny, he could easily be fed/told what to do since both of the two flipped are pretty good as scum.

Bussing/Distancing is WIFOM Swords and you can't justify that as a reason to call SoupaTown. Like your last line is the most valid but even then it's just, "He's town cuz he's town so yeah."

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

what aren't you getting here?

if you want me to put this differently, then how about this:

Soup looks genuine. His interactions with people do not look fake in the slightest.

Stop trying to get me to doubt my reads J. If Nabe's not scum then you definitely probably are.

 

[#HBC | J]

what aren't you getting here?

if you want me to put this differently, then how about this:

Soup looks genuine. His interactions with people do not look fake in the slightest.

Stop trying to get me to doubt my reads J. If Nabe's not scum then you definitely probably are.

Why didn't you just put it that way in the first place... It would have saved us time. I'm not trying to get you doubt your reads but I'm trying to see what logic you are using to establish them which just, to me, didn't seem sound. It's a problem of mine but if something seems illogical/unanswered, I have to press it and get to the bottom of it.

Also you have yet to explain why Nabe/I are scum besides "Lawlz, they are cuz I have stronger town-reads and because they are."

From my memory, I can't recall much of anything from Nabe, let alone anything that is scummy of him so I want you to tell me WHY I should look into him more. I'm not gonna look into myself cuz that's just dumb since I know I'm town.

So to me, I have Soupa/Vocal/Nabe and at the current time, there is no sound logic to make me believe they are town or scum yet. However I'll do ISO's on them shortly to get my own opinion but I wanted to see what yours was made of to see if I could trust it but it doesn't really do much for me.

 

[#HBC | J]

Shortly = Tomorrow or some other day because I am tired atm.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

J homework: look at Chaco/scum interactions for me and tell me what you see.

Bed now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I pronounce my kingship as



You're all idiots who couldn't find scum if it hit you right in the face.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup's not a good enough player to fake that ****

You doubt me too easily



So, who's all left?

Sword/J/Nabe/Vocal

Sword is town
J is town

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

purple is town too

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

FYI i'm most likely shooting Nabe, i'll look at -Vocal- real quick however.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Nabe, can you explain your actual case on me? I looked up the posts you highlighted in your game breakdown but often I just couldn't see what you were talking about.

So nabe made a case on vocal.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm shooting Nabe soon if noone disagrees, Vocal is town.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Soup as king? Ehh. Don't shoot so fast, there's lots of discussion to still be had.

Swords, you've called Vocal an easy push by me -- this suggests that you agree with the points I laid against him D2, but discount them because of some aspect of Vocal's character? Or am I wrong in that?

I'm curious @town in general what people think of Roxy's F0 shot v. Swords' Asdioh shot.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I don't plan on i t

 

[Purple]

wtf who's town.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I don't plan on i t

Could've fooled me.

I'm shooting Nabe soon

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm on page 9.

So far the Meadowsizze and Duder argument is making me want to punch myself. Sizzle is just a dumb****, and I'm okay with Duder. Although all those walls were absolutely not needed. I figured concision could be of use.

I don't like Purple. To "I'm here and active guys!" for my tastes, and just seems to try and comment on absolutely every little thing to get his nose out there. But not deep. Just enough to scathe it.

Vocal is highly expendable, not sure of alignment. Sucking Ryker's nuts too much.

I'm actually okay with Raz, I think he might be good to have around. I'll see.

Zen is nothing.
Forever is nothing.

I actually think Soup is town now. I found myself agreeing with Soup for one post. That there is enough to make me think he is actually putting forth an effort, and it seems legitimately town to me,

Uhm, who else is in this game...

Sword, not much to say really. Nor putting much thought to you really since killing you isnt even an option currently.

Chibo is null to me, and just seems Chibo-ish...

Beat not sure yet.

And Marluxia im gonna have to read more of and more closely.

Swords, is this the post you were talking about w.r.t. Zen/F0 connections? Especially the bolded?

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm curious @town in general what people think of Roxy's F0 shot v. Swords' Asdioh shot.

It heavily implies they were town. Roxy being because he was malleable to the whim of another and could have easily got away with shooting anyone else over F0 when the only one wanting it was Kuzi so basically, there was only town-intent behind his shot and I can't honestly see scumRoxy shoot F0 over people he had expressed disdain for over a long period of time (a.k.a. Soupa/Beat)

Swords has already been explained heh. ^^

 

[#HBC | J]

If you haven't guessed yet, I am looking at the Nabe slot first and probably that's all I'm gonna do tonight. Him first because he seems to be the main attraction of this game.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@J: No, I'm not really referring to any posts in particular. I'm just asking you to look for potential connections in general.

If Vocal is scum than I'll poo my pants. However, it is worth pointing out that I saw Vocal log on yesturDay, but he hasn't talked toDay yet. He needs to get in here and give us his thoughts on things and such.

@Nabe: Kind of. You were pushing legit material (his pushes were week wrt Duder and such), I just think you're wrong, and were simply going after a townie you could incriminate.

@Purple: Get in here, you're the only guy who can give me enough ****s to get through this game.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I really want to kill this guy but i haven't used the actual command yet so don't count it mod: Nabe

 

[Purple]

Don't kill nabe just yet to silly goose.

 

[#HBC | J]

Maaan this game, Nabe, can you at least tell Soupa why he shouldn't shoot you?

And where is Vocal? Even Roxy has at least let us know he still exists. I kindof want him shot moreso over Nabe at the current time but meeeeh needs to put effort in.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

You were pushing legit material (his pushes were week wrt Duder and such), I just think you're wrong, and were simply going after a townie you could incriminate.

That has little-to-nothing to do with what I said about Vocal iirc. But regardless -- why did you come to the conclusion that Vocal is town and that I'm wrong/incriminating him? Is it meta on Vocal?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

FYI I'd like character claims from everyone before my lynch toDay -- discuss.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Nah, I'm not really using meta. My town read streams from his overall play this game. Just from what I remember of him, he has this entire play this game looks brownie townie. From what he has been say, to his interactions with other players, both scum and not, all look genuine. His posts match up with the standpoint of a dumb townie.

I could point out examples, but then I'll be breaking my one liner, even more so than I already have.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

FYI I'd like character claims from everyone before my lynch toDay -- discuss.

Pretty sure no one has a character to claim, and that is only revealed upon flips/becoming the king.

At least, I had no character in my role pm.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I've already decided i'm shooting Nabe, if nobody agrees then we're done here, vocal isn't scum.

 

[Purple]

FYI I'd like character claims from everyone before my lynch toDay -- discuss.

**** doesn't help, no point in doing it. tryna look town homie?

KILL THIS GUY

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

good enough for me.

Execute: Nabe

If it's not Nabe, it's J.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Ugh, you didn't even let Vocal talk Soup.

Oh well.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Alright, it's a done deal, i had my doubts of Nabe in the first place, and i just don't see vocal as scum.

if we're going in order of the pool

J > -Vocal-

I really do not think Purple is scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

If there is something to add before i die in the night, the interaction between J and F0 was bothersome to me, such as the ridiculing of marl in his big post, alot of it just seems extremely fake in a sense and like i said, i have extreme doubts about -Vocal-.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

and Swords is obviously town, just pointing that out.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Soup you're obviously not going to die in the Night, I am.

I'm honestly not 100% okay with this kill. I mean Nabe was my top pick, but only because everyone else looked more townie than him. I could see him as town doing the things that he has done.

Even if he's scum, I'm not satisfied with how toDay was carried out. It felt like it was just me vs. Nabe the whole time with others chipping in their support for the Nabe shot, without actually giving their own reasoning as to why they wanted him shot.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

That's why i'm curious of J more.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

And i sort of see what you mean Swords, but if i had a choice, it was coming down to Nabe, perhaps i shot too fast but nothing productive was happening, and that's my mistake.