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The Explanation to Why Neighborhood P Is Ridiculously Cocky

Shmooguy

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So I've always wondered what makes P so incredibly cocky. The various ranked players that he says are terrible and that he can easily beat, the noobs he's lost to that he says he'll 4 stock in tourney, the East Coast giants that have apparently named him the "best Fox in Socal," and many more people who have fallen victim to his words (but not necessarily his Sheik) can all attest to this supreme arrogance of his.

While, most people have already shrugged off his personality as nothing but pure pride and thought nothing more, I have researched further, based on the knowledge that there is always a reason to the madness. I have uncovered that mystery. And now, the explanation you've all been waiting for (which is by no means simple, nor was it easily obtainable):

Adam Madison analyzes every video ever uploaded, pours over pages of text on Smashboards, and travels around SoCal to train with the best of our region. While all this effort can be very effective (and quite admirable in some cases), this has warped his playstyle to reflect that type of mindset.

What I mean is, he does the best move in each situation and he recognizes each situation quite quickly and accurately, but the "best" move in each situation is not necessarily the smartest choice. This is pretty confusing, so let me explain further. P does not adapt based on his opponent's habits; he plays all his matches as if he was fighting that opponent for the first time.

For example, I am Falco and he is Marth.

He downthrows me, I tech towards him. He quickly downtilts in the spot where I teched and then turns around and grabs me again (a move most people would recognize from the M2K vs PC set at Evo East). After another downthrow, I tech back into him yet again (this is a friendly and I wanted to test my theory out). Again, he downtilts where I would have teched in place and regrabs me. The third time follows quite similarly, except this time I buffer a spot dodge with the C-stick after rolling back into him. Consequently, he misses the grab and I shine and follow into a combo.

Now, considering this match didn't mean very much, this might not seem very important. But if I had told you that during the entirety of the match I always teched towards him after a downthrow (and spotdodged to avoid getting grabbed again), you might wonder why he didn't WD > Fsmash Tip me knowing exactly where I'd end up? This is because he either doesn't think when he plays (not likely) or he thinks that doing the best move in each situation is actually better than using a move that has a lower success rate but a higher payout if successful. So while he could have skipped the downtilt and just regrabbed me five times in a row or positioned himself to Fsmash me (and kill me), he continuously did the exact same set of moves which would have normally covered the most options against a new opponent, but was ultimately the inferior choice considering the circumstances.

What does this mean? This means that P actually has more knowledge of the game than most of the good players in Socal (and quite possibly the nation... or the WORLD), which leads him to believe that he's better than those people. His moves make sense and make him look like he knows exactly what he's doing (and in certain ways he actually does). However, because he doesn't adapt and switch up depending on who he's fighting, he ends up losing to the "noobs" that he himself has named.

Just thought I'd share my findings ^^. Not that this excuses him from talking **** in any way; Neighborhood P is still quite the ***** online.

=P
 

JTB

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What does this mean? This means that P actually has more knowledge of the game than most of the good players in Socal (and quite possibly the nation... or the WORLD), which leads him to believe that he's better than those people. His moves make sense and make him look like he knows exactly what he's doing (and in certain ways he actually does). However, because he doesn't adapt and switch up depending on who he's fighting, he ends up losing to the "noobs" that he himself has named.
That accounts for why he posts in like every single Melee-related thread on this site.
 

NeighborhoodP

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rofl, kira, if you're that bored, play more smash with me. my fox ***** you.

i rarely tech chase into a fsmash because i hate using fsmash as marth because you get punished for it so badly. so i don't use it until i have a read on the opponent's tech and rarely against falco because i know my marth isn't good enough to use fsmash more, so i'm going to miss a lot, which means when i miss i'm going to get comboed a lot, which means i should rarely be doing fsmashes until i know when to do them.

edit: oh yeah, i read that the marth dtilt thing only works on fox's tech, not falco's, so i was trying to test that
 

NeighborhoodP

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and man, after a post like that, who was the one that was high? that was some type of **** i'd say.
 

AzN_Lep

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^^^ me neither... which means we must be less people. Maybe I can start a logical rant...

Why are less people going to Pound 3 from the West Coast? Well because we're awesome of course. The real question is why aren't most people going? Most people said they would go, but then at the last second decided not too, making plane ticket johns and whatnots. Meanwhile less people held strong and got their acts together, at the cost of not watching PC vs M2K videos. Were most people right in their choice to watch videos instead of working to save money? Perhaps... probably not though. Less people decided that they really wanted to go to pound, and subsequently it would seem that less people happen to amazing people, ie. Edrees. In conclusion I have derived that most people are pretty lame, since they aren't going; and although less people wouldn't be able to recognize "a move most people would from the M2K vs PC set" we remain fundamental superior in terms of "non-lameness," an attribute highly desirable by most people, yet ironically unattainable given their lame characteristic qualities.
 

JTB

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Correlation doesn't imply causation.

Just because more people watch PC vs M2K videos and don't go to Pound 3 mean that the two are related.
 

AzN_Lep

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ummm not really sure how people could have taken that seriously... lol I was just playing on the whole "most people" and "less people" haha
 

araknophobik

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What I mean is, he does the best move in each situation and he recognizes each situation quite quickly and accurately, but the "best" move in each situation is not necessarily the smartest choice. This is pretty confusing, so let me explain further. P does not adapt based on his opponent's habits; he plays all his matches as if he was fighting that opponent for the first time.

For example, I am Falco and he is Marth.

He downthrows me, I tech towards him. He quickly downtilts in the spot where I teched and then turns around and grabs me again (a move most people would recognize from the M2K vs PC set at Evo East). After another downthrow, I tech back into him yet again (this is a friendly and I wanted to test my theory out). Again, he downtilts where I would have teched in place and regrabs me. The third time follows quite similarly, except this time I buffer a spot dodge with the C-stick after rolling back into him. Consequently, he misses the grab and I shine and follow into a combo.

Now, considering this match didn't mean very much, this might not seem very important. But if I had told you that during the entirety of the match I always teched towards him after a downthrow (and spotdodged to avoid getting grabbed again), you might wonder why he didn't WD > Fsmash Tip me knowing exactly where I'd end up? This is because he either doesn't think when he plays (not likely) or he thinks that doing the best move in each situation is actually better than using a move that has a lower success rate but a higher payout if successful. So while he could have skipped the downtilt and just regrabbed me five times in a row or positioned himself to Fsmash me (and kill me), he continuously did the exact same set of moves which would have normally covered the most options against a new opponent, but was ultimately the inferior choice considering the circumstances.
for a visual aid/summary of this thread in 1:07 click here
 

JTB

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ummm not really sure how people could have taken that seriously... lol I was just playing on the whole "most people" and "less people" haha
Lol, I wasn't being serious either ;)
 
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