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THIS IS A DISCLAIMER: YOU'RE EGO WILL/MIGHT BE HURT IN SOME WAY BY READING THIS. IT'S AN EYE OPENER, SO DON'T THINK YOU'RE OUT OF THE WOODS JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE CONSIDERED TO BE A SCRUB OR A NOOB. YES, THIS DEFINES YOU, TOO.
I truly think that it's time that we address something that people tend to ignore quite a bit. I think it's utter bull that people do, too. Elitists. To be one....people feel as if they have a right, but nobody has the right to be one. You don't earn the right to be an A-hole. Elitists are horrid people who feel that they are above everyone else for some reason. There's news for you...who cares about your "experience"? It doesn't give you the right to treat others badly. We'll go over the different kinds of Elitists, because I think people will be surprised to find out what I have to say about them.
The basic Elitist-We'll cover these first, although I pretty much did. these are people who feel they have the right to treat people however they wish because of their experience or their own victories. These are the ones that typically attack people who they feel are "Noobs" and instead of explaining things properly, they just trash them for no reason. Most of the time, these aren't top players, but rather players who might be ranked High in their state. Either that, or just really great players who aren't ranked yet.
The snobbish Elitist- Now these are different, not as bad as the previous kind, but still have their horrid ways about them. These usually fall under the category of top or well known players. These are the ones who aren't openly rude like the basic ones, but rather are outright cocky. These players also can't stand to lose and will either john about it, or talk down to the person that beat them, or someone else well known. In general, a nice person, but behind the scenes they are rather rude and backstabbing. It's a shame when the truth comes out in the open. Your favorite player may be like this
The inexperienced/scrub Elitist- These two kind of go hand-in-hand, but we'll cover the Scrub Elitist first. Scrub Elitists are those who have had the game for some time, and granted, know the game inside and out. HOWEVER, they refuse to learn anything advanced once they've found out that they aren't the best anymore. They consistently harass better players, and to be honest, Basic and Scrub Elitists create each other. Scrub Elitists are people who got their feelings hurt after running their mouths. They also use the terminology such as "Tourney or tournament ***s" and also gave birth to the phrase "Tiers are for Queers". These kinds of Elitists wish to leave character rankings up to individual preference and then force their ideas upon other people. They want to create their own Tier list, but lack sufficient proof to do so. They also give birth to the inexperienced Elitists. Now these are just those who follow the leadership of the Scrub Elitists and don't even have valid arguments to back up their statements. They just know that their friend beats people with this character, so he's the best. They truly have next to no knowledge of the game, and also get upset when you correct the terminologies that They or their Scrub elitists friends come up with for BASIC moves. That is, moves that already have names the creators gave them. They then use the excuse "Terminology doesn't measure skill". They are unwilling to learn, but rather take the easy way out. Both always have Johns for every time something happens and are usually just outrageous. These will also use other Scrubs/noobs who go to tournaments as reference as "I beat these guys who go to tournaments all the time". They like to exacerbate their victories and also swear on their life that they ***** them using items.
Scorned Elitists- This is really just a stepping stone to either a basic or inexperienced/scrub elitists. Their goals are different though. They are just set out to make people feel bad about themselves because they can't win. Either that, or they get reemed out needlessly by some other Elitists. These can be avoided if people would just get their heads out of their butts and be kind. Be forewarned: These Elitists are highly dangerous and will do anything to try and piss you off. There are many that roam the forums and just troll to no end. Then they act like they did nothing to try and piss you off more. They do it to get laughs, and attempt to make people quit. Especially those with more potential than them. Their frustration comes from not winning money like they want to. It also comes from watching somebody newer than them beat people that they couldn't or themselves.
"Experienced" Elitists- These, are really a combination of basic, scorned and snobbish. The biggest difference is that they are only well known because they've been around for so long. They throw their "experience" in people's faces whenever they get a chance. They shoot down ideas, don't bother to listen to what people say, and are overall jerks. Their As with Scorned Elitists, their motivation to hurt people is because they watch people get better than them. They feel because someone has done better than their "top ranked" players, they have to force that person to quit. When new people come back with victories, they dismiss it as lies, even though the person they beat sees it, and doesn't protest. They take it upon themselves to say that Experience outranks placement and don't give people who deserve their right to be ranked, a chance. These are the people who don't have a reason to be cocky, because they, themselves are good, but not THAT good. They are just ticking time bombs waiting to happen. They will also be nice to you at first, talk about you behind your back, and then plan an all out attack. They are the first to say "No Johns" When they themselves John like crazy. Probably the worst kind of Elitist.
Elitists are nothing but people who have their head stuck so far up their butts that they don't even realize how much of a jerk they're being. However, some Elitists go out of their way, NEVER missing an opportunity to bash on someone. I've got messages for them.
1.) Tourney ***s are better than you...even at the basic core of the game. They could play you without any advanced techniques and still win. Get over it.
2.) Tiers exist-face it. Now here's the part where you don't understand and READ what is being said here: Tier lists are based upon results in tournament, These people are in NO way saying that the character sucks and shouldn't be used. They also aren't telling you who you SHOULD use. Your defense is "You just have to work harder...blah, blah, blah." Okay, guess what? They do. You get your best defense for who you feel represents your character the best, and then put it up against a decent player. I guarantee you that your representative will lose. Why? Because a good player knows the game better. I can beat people who main a character with their own character. Oh and guess what? I don't even use advanced techniques to prove a point. The other thing is how can you go off and say that, when you yourselves are trying to create a Tier list? You try to force on other people that certain characters suck. Also, allow me to give you an example of you contradicting yourselves. "Tiers are for Queers!! Tiers don't exists...except Pichu, he sucks" Is that not, in effect, you trying to make people shy away from a character? If Pichu sucks so much, then how come people can win tournament matches with him? I was IN tournament with a Pichu and watched him **** our competition with his last stock. Oh and guess what? He put the time and work into Pichu. People make their own Tier lists because they flock to characters and say other ones suck. Actual Tier lists go based off of results. HOWEVER, we do point out character strengths as well as flaws so people know.
3.) For the record....get over it Marth > Roy. I play Roy, I <3 Roy, but Marth is the better character. When the game came out, I knew that. I got Marth, and when I got Roy, I thought he was cooler. But the truth came out when I actually played. The difference was I played with Roy all the time, and won. When I lost with him, I switched to Marth and won MUCH more easily. Even at low level play, before AT were brought into the light, Marth could be seen as the better character.
4.) Get your head out of your butt. You might be the better player, but that doesn't give you the right to look down on people. You might have more experience, so when you lose...be a real man and just accept defeat. Then look at what you did wrong and fix it. That's what "less experienced" players do.
5.) Stop feelin' yourself so much. People know more than you. If they give you advice, don't fight them. Take the friggin' advice. Someone else can see your flaws better than you can. If they correct you on a terminology....WHO CARES!? Stop being suck a prick and just deal with it. Thank them and move on. It doesn't hurt to show some humbleness every once in a while.
6.) Don't be such jerks. This goes with the last one. If you're gonna give advice, be nice about it. If they don't want to listen, screw them and just play on. Eventually they'll get the point.
7.) No johns means no johns. Don't tell someone No Johns, and then 5 minutes later turn right around and John like crazy yourself.
8.) Be helpful. Instead of getting frustrated with a less experienced player, help them out. Look for their strengths and potential and focus on that to help them. People swear that their communities are dying out...well help the new guys out to play. You want the competition, train it yourself.
Feel free to comment respectfully. Leave the Elitist attitude at the door. If you disagree, then do so, but try to use some fact with your opinion. what I have here is based upon observation and experience. It's not just opinion, it's fact-based.
THIS IS A DISCLAIMER: YOU'RE EGO WILL/MIGHT BE HURT IN SOME WAY BY READING THIS. IT'S AN EYE OPENER, SO DON'T THINK YOU'RE OUT OF THE WOODS JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE CONSIDERED TO BE A SCRUB OR A NOOB. YES, THIS DEFINES YOU, TOO.
I truly think that it's time that we address something that people tend to ignore quite a bit. I think it's utter bull that people do, too. Elitists. To be one....people feel as if they have a right, but nobody has the right to be one. You don't earn the right to be an A-hole. Elitists are horrid people who feel that they are above everyone else for some reason. There's news for you...who cares about your "experience"? It doesn't give you the right to treat others badly. We'll go over the different kinds of Elitists, because I think people will be surprised to find out what I have to say about them.
The basic Elitist-We'll cover these first, although I pretty much did. these are people who feel they have the right to treat people however they wish because of their experience or their own victories. These are the ones that typically attack people who they feel are "Noobs" and instead of explaining things properly, they just trash them for no reason. Most of the time, these aren't top players, but rather players who might be ranked High in their state. Either that, or just really great players who aren't ranked yet.
The snobbish Elitist- Now these are different, not as bad as the previous kind, but still have their horrid ways about them. These usually fall under the category of top or well known players. These are the ones who aren't openly rude like the basic ones, but rather are outright cocky. These players also can't stand to lose and will either john about it, or talk down to the person that beat them, or someone else well known. In general, a nice person, but behind the scenes they are rather rude and backstabbing. It's a shame when the truth comes out in the open. Your favorite player may be like this
The inexperienced/scrub Elitist- These two kind of go hand-in-hand, but we'll cover the Scrub Elitist first. Scrub Elitists are those who have had the game for some time, and granted, know the game inside and out. HOWEVER, they refuse to learn anything advanced once they've found out that they aren't the best anymore. They consistently harass better players, and to be honest, Basic and Scrub Elitists create each other. Scrub Elitists are people who got their feelings hurt after running their mouths. They also use the terminology such as "Tourney or tournament ***s" and also gave birth to the phrase "Tiers are for Queers". These kinds of Elitists wish to leave character rankings up to individual preference and then force their ideas upon other people. They want to create their own Tier list, but lack sufficient proof to do so. They also give birth to the inexperienced Elitists. Now these are just those who follow the leadership of the Scrub Elitists and don't even have valid arguments to back up their statements. They just know that their friend beats people with this character, so he's the best. They truly have next to no knowledge of the game, and also get upset when you correct the terminologies that They or their Scrub elitists friends come up with for BASIC moves. That is, moves that already have names the creators gave them. They then use the excuse "Terminology doesn't measure skill". They are unwilling to learn, but rather take the easy way out. Both always have Johns for every time something happens and are usually just outrageous. These will also use other Scrubs/noobs who go to tournaments as reference as "I beat these guys who go to tournaments all the time". They like to exacerbate their victories and also swear on their life that they ***** them using items.
Scorned Elitists- This is really just a stepping stone to either a basic or inexperienced/scrub elitists. Their goals are different though. They are just set out to make people feel bad about themselves because they can't win. Either that, or they get reemed out needlessly by some other Elitists. These can be avoided if people would just get their heads out of their butts and be kind. Be forewarned: These Elitists are highly dangerous and will do anything to try and piss you off. There are many that roam the forums and just troll to no end. Then they act like they did nothing to try and piss you off more. They do it to get laughs, and attempt to make people quit. Especially those with more potential than them. Their frustration comes from not winning money like they want to. It also comes from watching somebody newer than them beat people that they couldn't or themselves.
"Experienced" Elitists- These, are really a combination of basic, scorned and snobbish. The biggest difference is that they are only well known because they've been around for so long. They throw their "experience" in people's faces whenever they get a chance. They shoot down ideas, don't bother to listen to what people say, and are overall jerks. Their As with Scorned Elitists, their motivation to hurt people is because they watch people get better than them. They feel because someone has done better than their "top ranked" players, they have to force that person to quit. When new people come back with victories, they dismiss it as lies, even though the person they beat sees it, and doesn't protest. They take it upon themselves to say that Experience outranks placement and don't give people who deserve their right to be ranked, a chance. These are the people who don't have a reason to be cocky, because they, themselves are good, but not THAT good. They are just ticking time bombs waiting to happen. They will also be nice to you at first, talk about you behind your back, and then plan an all out attack. They are the first to say "No Johns" When they themselves John like crazy. Probably the worst kind of Elitist.
Elitists are nothing but people who have their head stuck so far up their butts that they don't even realize how much of a jerk they're being. However, some Elitists go out of their way, NEVER missing an opportunity to bash on someone. I've got messages for them.
1.) Tourney ***s are better than you...even at the basic core of the game. They could play you without any advanced techniques and still win. Get over it.
2.) Tiers exist-face it. Now here's the part where you don't understand and READ what is being said here: Tier lists are based upon results in tournament, These people are in NO way saying that the character sucks and shouldn't be used. They also aren't telling you who you SHOULD use. Your defense is "You just have to work harder...blah, blah, blah." Okay, guess what? They do. You get your best defense for who you feel represents your character the best, and then put it up against a decent player. I guarantee you that your representative will lose. Why? Because a good player knows the game better. I can beat people who main a character with their own character. Oh and guess what? I don't even use advanced techniques to prove a point. The other thing is how can you go off and say that, when you yourselves are trying to create a Tier list? You try to force on other people that certain characters suck. Also, allow me to give you an example of you contradicting yourselves. "Tiers are for Queers!! Tiers don't exists...except Pichu, he sucks" Is that not, in effect, you trying to make people shy away from a character? If Pichu sucks so much, then how come people can win tournament matches with him? I was IN tournament with a Pichu and watched him **** our competition with his last stock. Oh and guess what? He put the time and work into Pichu. People make their own Tier lists because they flock to characters and say other ones suck. Actual Tier lists go based off of results. HOWEVER, we do point out character strengths as well as flaws so people know.
3.) For the record....get over it Marth > Roy. I play Roy, I <3 Roy, but Marth is the better character. When the game came out, I knew that. I got Marth, and when I got Roy, I thought he was cooler. But the truth came out when I actually played. The difference was I played with Roy all the time, and won. When I lost with him, I switched to Marth and won MUCH more easily. Even at low level play, before AT were brought into the light, Marth could be seen as the better character.
4.) Get your head out of your butt. You might be the better player, but that doesn't give you the right to look down on people. You might have more experience, so when you lose...be a real man and just accept defeat. Then look at what you did wrong and fix it. That's what "less experienced" players do.
5.) Stop feelin' yourself so much. People know more than you. If they give you advice, don't fight them. Take the friggin' advice. Someone else can see your flaws better than you can. If they correct you on a terminology....WHO CARES!? Stop being suck a prick and just deal with it. Thank them and move on. It doesn't hurt to show some humbleness every once in a while.
6.) Don't be such jerks. This goes with the last one. If you're gonna give advice, be nice about it. If they don't want to listen, screw them and just play on. Eventually they'll get the point.
7.) No johns means no johns. Don't tell someone No Johns, and then 5 minutes later turn right around and John like crazy yourself.
8.) Be helpful. Instead of getting frustrated with a less experienced player, help them out. Look for their strengths and potential and focus on that to help them. People swear that their communities are dying out...well help the new guys out to play. You want the competition, train it yourself.
Feel free to comment respectfully. Leave the Elitist attitude at the door. If you disagree, then do so, but try to use some fact with your opinion. what I have here is based upon observation and experience. It's not just opinion, it's fact-based.
