The De-Confirmed Character Thread

[Jiikae]

Well, I'm making this thread as a list of de-confirmed characters for Brawl and discussing your angst for them being de-confirmed, your joy for them being deconfirmed, or express your understanding of the logic of them being de-confirmed or vice-versa. I searched and their was no thread like this and if the moderator feels as if there is no need for this thread feel free to delete it but I thought this would be a fun interesting thread to have to see people's thoughts on these DE-confirmed characters because I personally thinks that de-confirmed characters are just as exciting as confirmed ones. I'm not sure if I can keep this updated. So if I fall behind or anything like that. Please lock/delete this thread and anyone can feel free to continue it. So without further ado here is the small list of de-confirmed characters so far.

Samurai Goroh (popular)
Hammer Bros. (not so popular)
Deoxys (popular but I considered him being in the shadow of Lucario and I'm a Mewtwo player so I didn't want two psychics in)
Tom Nook (moderately popular)
KK Slider (not so sure)
Dr. Wright (not so popular)
Arguably/ Controversially De-Confirmed:
Tom Nook
Reason for Controversy: Considering the surprises that smash games are known to bring and that the Mr. Game and Watch level had himself in the background some people make the argument that Tom Nook could be removed from the background when he is unlocked or while he is playing. Which honestly, imo, is not that bad of an argument. I do find it weird that you would have a level for a franchise and not have a character from it. So some might ven say that this RAISES his chances or even CONFIRMS him, but when can specualte all day it really comes down to just waiting and seeing

Tell me if I forgot anyone.

 

[Super Smash Master]

I think the fact that Deoxys isn't in makes a stronger case that Mewtwo will return.

 

[Circus]

I don't think I'd count Tom Nook deconfirmed yet. I really don't think he'll be playable, but we don't KNOW that he won't hit you with a "CHALLENGER APPROACHES" screen, and then just mysteriously disappear from the Smashville stage.

As for the rest, the only one I'm really happy about is Deoxys. I really think it's got one the ugliest character models I've ever seen a pokemon have. But it's got such a large fanbase, that I can't help but feel bad for them. Cause I know I'll probably suffer the same fate at some point.

The rest, I'm basically indifferent on.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

I agree with you on the excitement of the de-confirmed characters. Actually, before I even think of the newly de-confirmed character not being in the game, I think of how the thread about them on this forum gets shot in the head. It makes me giggle, because most of those character suggestions are stupid and I think those characters deserved representation in Smash Bros. just not as full characters, that would've been too much, but AT and PokeBalls fit perfectly for them!

I'm no Animal Crossing player, but someone said that you can see Tom Nook in the background of Smashville every so often. If that's true, doesn't that De-confirm him?

PS: If you ever put Young Link in there, I will stop support! O.o

 

[Problem2]

Samurai Goroh: Even though I didn't care personally if he was in, I thought that he deserved a spot because of the fans and his appearance in the melee intro.

Deoxys: I used to think he deserved a spot as well, but after a while, I came to realize how confusing it would be to make moves for this shape shifting pokemon. Sort of glad it's deconfirmed

Hammer Bro: Who honesty thought that this had a chance?

Animal Crossing: People keep talking about them, (the Nsiders still haven't given up yet despite all odds) but I am glad that they're deconfirmed. I don't mind them as a stage like Sakurai has made them, but it just wouldn't seem fit to have a miniture dog wailing on people with a guitar.

Dr. Wright: I think this character falls under the same category as the Hammer Bro. No one wanted him playable in Brawl unless they were trying to be silly, but I'm sure if they were hoping for his inclusion, they were surprised he was making an appearance at all.

 

[Kunitsuna]

All these people mocking those who were rooting for deconfirmed characters...seriously, what the frick is up with them?

But I digress...I didn´t think Deoxys will make it, but I´m not sure that Lucario will, either. Munchlax would be interesting.

 

[ZeldaFox38]

When were KK Slider and Tom Nook deconfirmed? I guess I can't find them being anything else on the Smash site. Or, do you mean that they're deconfirmed because they appeared on a stage?

I'm happy that Deoxys is a Poke'mon and not playable, frankly. I liked Poke'mon, but not enough to have an overwhelming amount of them as playable characters. I was a little confused why they even threw in Pichu in the first place, but I digress.

Then again, I haven't played Poke'mon hard-core since Gold and Silver, so I can't be a good commentator on this subject.

It's good we have a starting list, but I'd suggest you put down why the characters are deconfirmed. I knew why for most of them, but some might still question the Animal Crossing characters.

 

[the grim lizard]

Are you sure you wanna go here? I think you can have a list as long as your arm of "deconfirmed" characters if you look hard enough...

You also forgot Nintendog, every other AC character that appears in Smashville, Moblin, Bulblin and Lord Bullbo, Shyguys...I could go on.

 

[Jiikae]

Are you sure you wanna go here? I think you can have a list as long as your arm of "deconfirmed" characters if you look hard enough...

You also forgot Nintendog, every other AC character that appears in Smashville, Moblin, Bulblin and Lord Bullbo, Shyguys...I could go on.

Yeah I was thinking that before I made this thread..but I just said what the heck I'll just do characters that had a strong or moderately strong fanbase that I noticed. Oh and for the Tom Nook fans I'm gonna make a change to the thread that I hope makes everyone happy.

 

[Phaazoid]

you forgot nintedog. he is deconfirmed.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Are you sure you wanna go here? I think you can have a list as long as your arm of "deconfirmed" characters if you look hard enough...

You also forgot Nintendog, every other AC character that appears in Smashville, Moblin, Bulblin and Lord Bullbo, Shyguys...I could go on.

This thread is for the de-confirmed characters that had a chance in certain people's eyes. This is why Jeike (don't want to assume it's a dude, that would be sexist. lol) didn't put down Goldeen, moblin archers from TP, or Groudon.

This thread is to show your support for the choice to make said character not a playable one or to show your disdain for said character not being playable. This why I amongst others were showing our disdain for them. You are free to show your support.

 

[Jiikae]

This thread is for the de-confirmed characters that had a chance in certain people's eyes. This is why Jeike (don't want to assume it's a dude, that would be sexist. lol) didn't put down Goldeen, moblin archers from TP, or Groudon.

This thread is to show your support for the choice to make said character not a playable one or to show your disdain for said character not being playable. This why I amongst others were showing our disdain for them. You are free to show your support.

I'm a male. And thank you for understanding where I was coming from. For all you Tom Nook people if you read the edit tell me if you're happy/ satisfied.

 

[Brawlman]

The only one I'm upset about is Goroh. Everyone else was either "Meh, so he's not in. So what?" or "Woohoo! he's not in!" (That last quote was for Deoxys)

 

[Smile Guy]

It seems to be Sakurai's current tactic that even if he's not confirming characters yet he's slowly but surely de-confirming popular suggestions leading us closer and closer to the right characters. I do however think we need some ACTUAL new characters very, very soon because now two huge fanbases of Deoxys and Samurai Goro(h) fans are seriously depressed. It's been over a year since we've had new NEWCOMERS... it's what the fans want. And we're ready for it now!

 

[tirkaro]

bah, I'm still mourning over the loss of deoxys. whoever thought it was a good idea to make him a pokeball pokemon deserves a good falcon punch to the face.

 

[DonkeyPirate]

I'm glad Deoxys didnt make it. I think he is kinda an Uggo. I dont really follow pokemon except the origional set from Gameboy Red and Blue. Then the cartoon too because I was a kid back then.

 

[Chidosengan]

We need Yoshi re-confirmed! It'll complete the original 8!

Well, yea, that kinda sucks for all Goro and Deoxys fans.

...I predict Toad and Laughing dog to be de-confirmed.


EDIT: I nominate this thread for sticky... I you commit yourself to it.

 

[Jiikae]

We need Yoshi re-confirmed! It'll complete the original 8!

Well, yea, that kinda sucks for all Goro and Deoxys fans.

...I predict Toad and Laughing dog to be de-confirmed.


EDIT: I nominate this thread for sticky... I you commit yourself to it.

Lol I think I can. I'll try my best. But when school starts It'll get I tad bit hectic for me, but I think I can do it.

 

[Masque]

You can't say that Nook and K.K. have been OFFICIALLY deconfirmed as of yet. Until that time, talk of those two being deconfirmed is merely conjecture. There is some logic behind it, but they cannot be deemed absolutely deconfirmed until Sakurai-san gives the word.

 

[Procrasticritter]

So far, I haven't been too dissapointed with the characters that have been de-confirmed as of yet. I just I won't have to be dissapointed at some point in time.

I agree with the whole "Tom Nook is not officially de-confirmed" thing. You never know what they might do, and it still seems strange to have a stage without having a character from that franchise as playable to go with it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think so far, there haven't been any stages represented only by an AT.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

1) Melee had characters with no stages, so why can't the opposite be true?

2) Is Tom Nook in Smashville background, YES or NO? If YES, then he's not a PC, if he's NOT there, then there is still a chance.

 

[alpha n00b]

Toad, Geno, Laughing dog, Capt. olimar, Midna, BLAZIKEN, (hopefuly Lucario) are all pretty much de-confirmed (to me)

 

[Bajef8]

i agree that it's about time they added some new characters. iv'e been tired of waiting for brawl since it was "suppossedly" a release title.

i also think tom nook will probably be playable since they have an animal crossing stage. y would there be an animal crossing stage without out an animal crossing fighter?

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

i also think tom nook will probably be playable since they have an animal crossing stage. y would there be an animal crossing stage without out an animal crossing fighter?

Sigh...As I've said plenty of times, there were characters with no stages in Melee, so why can't the opposite, stages with no characters, be true? For the people giving me blank stares, I mean Marth and Roy.

 

[Masque]

Toad, Geno, Laughing dog, Capt. olimar, Midna, BLAZIKEN, (hopefuly Lucario) are all pretty much de-confirmed (to me)

Gahhhhhhh, just wait one cotton-pickin' minute there, ya varmint! Toad has neither been confirmed NOR deconfirmed as of yet, so there's no reason to suggest it yet, as there is no evidence from which one might infer that. In addition, Olimar is one of the most likely newcomers, Geno has a rabid and fairly expansive fanbase, and Midna has a good shot at appearing on the playable roster. Your picks for deconfirmation are actually characters that I would expect to see...except Blaziken and Laughing Dog. Blaziken is likely to be Pokéballed and LD will be an AT. Lucario has a very high chance of making it onto the roster now that Deoxys is out of the way.

Also, something to consider about Tom Nook: notice that he only appears in the background of the default Smashville screenshot. They could easily have just placed him in the background to have a recognizable character in the basic stage picture. I dunno. Until Sakurai shows a different AC character on the roster or makes official Nook's deconfirmation (via an AT or an explicit statement), I still think he has a shot.

 

[Rx-]

Sakurai is going to cause alot of grief by having these posts that look exactly like a character post at first, and then at closer examination are assist trophies or pokemon. Seeing the ? Jar in the top-right corner of the post that confirms that the Character displayed in the Big picture is actually an item and not a playable character really got me good twice, today with deoxys and earlier with the Samurai Goroh pic.

 

[tstumo]

the only one that i feel bad for is Samurai Goroh. i say this because if there was to be any other character from F zero i think it would be him. where as from the Pokemon series it's more of a preference plus theres alot of different pokemon in the first place.. and for whatever reason people wanted Deoxys in.

I doubt Animal crossing is getting a character. just like someone stated. there were characters in melee that didnt get a stage. so that doesnt mean just because a stage is in the game a character needs to be too. they had Mach rider and balloon fighter music. where were they? a trophy thank you very much. and then you bring up the animal crossing leaf icon. the icon is there to represent the series as a stage. someone had said "how come on the smash bros site Dr Wright got the smash symbol?" that's because sim city isnt getting a stage nor a character. simple enough. at least animal crossing is getting a stage. you'd think that would be enough.

 

[Bassoonist]

I'm sad that Tom Nook won't be a character. I mean it would be kind of crazy to give him a moveset, but still... It's the fun of the SSB series for me. Just having all of these characters from all of these series fighting each other.

I have to ask, though. Exactly what stage was there that there wasn't a character for in SSBM?

 

[Circus]

I'm sad that Tom Nook won't be a character. I mean it would be kind of crazy to give him a moveset, but still... It's the fun of the SSB series for me. Just having all of these characters from all of these series fighting each other.

I have to ask, though. Exactly what stage was there that there wasn't a character for in SSBM?

Don't count Nook out just yet. He hasn't totally lost his chance yet.

True enough, the only stages that didn't have corresponding characters in Melee were Battlefield and FD. But, that really doesn't count for much. We only have two games to base things on—that's not much of a pattern. At this point, there's nothing stopping them from creating a stage without a matching character. They'd hardly be breaking tradition.

If the pattern holds true for Brawl as well(though I don't think it will), then maybe it'll have some substance.

 

[Reno>]

bah, I'm still mourning over the loss of deoxys. whoever thought it was a good idea to make him a pokeball pokemon deserves a good falcon punch to the face.

Thats were the Pokemon belong, in there Poke balls.

 

[LeadPenguin]

The Smashville level seems like it is really fluid, very living. People move in and out of there at as time goes by. It seems like it would be easy to have one character not show up if he were playable. Not that I'm even that big of a supporter of the games. Posters just love to jump to conclusions.

(Now check it out, I'm totally going to jump to a conclusion)

And plus, there was something about that last comment about the concert on Saturday @ 8pm that just screamed "unlock this character." They even had the fighters looking at him, all shocked. (Not that they haven't pre-arranged characters for screenshots before.) I don't know, maybe I just want to El Kabong people with a dog. BUT, nonetheless, I think the only characters that are officially de-confirmed are the Assist Trophies and Pokemans.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

That's one heck of a stretch, LeadPenguin. Yes, it does seem like a very fluid and fun to-be stage.

And everyone is screwing up, there were characters with no stages in Melee, not the other way around. I was just saying that, why can't the opposite of that be true for Brawl?

 

[the grim lizard]

You forgot Groudon. He was the first deconfirmed character.

 

[Jiikae]

You forgot Groudon. He was the first deconfirmed character.

Once again..popular characters even though I have a feeling you're joking lol. Basically grim lizard here's how I choose:

-if I don't see 2-4 threads on the N-sider forums on the same page about how sad they are that the "given character" is not in the game then I won't put the character as de-confirmed.
-if I never saw a thread on here that was taken the slightest bit seriously I won't put them on here
-and most importantly if anyone other than you isn't telling me to put them on here seriously then I won't put them on lol.

Anyway..do you all think this ZSS situation deserves any attention on this thread? And I'm really slowly starting to believe an Animal Crossing character is in the game if not tom nook. Animal Crossing IS the only franchise without a character that has a symbol on the website and that is kinda off.. the series has to have a character on this game. Dr. Wright doesn't have a symbol....

 

[Kunitsuna]

Once again..popular characters even though I have a feeling you're joking lol.

I´ve seen Groudon suggested as a character; either as a Bowser clone or original. Granted, not the most popular of contenders, but it has happened.

Anyway..do you all think this ZSS situation deserves any attention on this thread?

Not really. Nobody has been confirmed or deconfirmed.

And I'm really slowly starting to believe an Animal Crossing character is in the game if not tom nook.

I´m thinking it´ll be the player character (Animal Crosser). Hopefully you´ll be able to customize his/her appearance, which will eliminate the necessity for Miis.

Animal Crossing IS the only franchise without a character that has a symbol on the website and that is kinda off.. the series has to have a character on this game. Dr. Wright doesn't have a symbol....

SimCity doesn´t have a stage.

It´s very possible that some franchises that don´t have characters adequate for a fighting game will be represented solely through stages, which would be a neat idea. At this point it´s anyone´s guess, although Smashville is a very detailed and changing stage that features pretty much all of the franchise´s important characters, so...

 

[the grim lizard]

Once again..popular characters even though I have a feeling you're joking lol. Basically grim lizard here's how I choose:

In that case, take off Goroh, Deoxys, Tom Nook, Hammer Bros., KK Slider, and Dr. Wright.

 

[brofan15]

tom nook is de-confermed yet, he still has a chance

 

[Bassoonist]

I just can't begin to believe that Tom Nook could appear in the game after he is on the background of a stage.

It's really silly to think that he could still be in. It's just not something that has happened in the SSB series before. "you unlock the character and they no longer appear in the background." just doesn't sound right to me.

Too bad. Still the idea of a customizable Animal Crossing player is something I can hold hopes to. I know that there are some in the background, but if they customizable it's understandable that they'd have some in the background.

 

[Sgt.Frog]

I'm not so bothered about Deoxys, I had him on my slightly possible list, the Pokeball idea sounds fine. I'd like to see a more interesting character to appear.
I was miffed at Goroh being an AT. He was a strong candidate for a second F-Zero playable rep for his series.

 

[Shadowplusle]

i mean sure i agree about deoxys being a little weird looking but i think he would have been an interesting brawl character. as for tom nook maybe whenever tom nook is in play hes automatically removed from the back ground.


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