The D3 Video Lounge

[Fly_Amanita]

Welcome to the general purpose DDD video thread, intended for all things DDD-video-related. If you're looking for critique, if you want to share what you learned from certain matches, or if you just want to show off your games for whatever other reason, feel free to here.

I have recent videos to talk about, and in the interest of not cluttering the OP, I'll put them and my comments on them in collapse tags.

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[joY]

Great videos and a lot of great input on the match-up. Thanks!

 

[KOkingpin]

I only have one video of my Dedede in tournament and it is vs Ike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UY97w8Ti37M#t=120s
KOKingpin (Dedede) Vs AND (Ike)

This was pre nerf Ike so the match up only gets better from this.

To be honest I played the first stock like crap. But you have to play the match up carefully even now cause Ike is still a beast. I love the Rocket Hammer. It just messes Ike's world up but it is one of the risk vs reward type moves. A lot of people like to play it safe and just f-tilt people.

Here are some more videos I just put up for Dedede

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thZ1yJWJyCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoljDJxXONM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Jvl_XrvI0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJQYlghcHSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKGkhw5exRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkHnY7UfFO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nrQYhWZ9N4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpotZukPkQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8niWjHybbwI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmzEZDetCAk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krovgsCGqow

 

[Pimpfish]

yeah i think ftilit is pretty good for ikes upb, but i like rocket hammer if yuou get him to land on stage. ddd has a good matchup there imo

 

[KOkingpin]

I added a bunch of Videos to my youtube account and posted them in a previous post. check them out.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Some rounds I got recorded a couple weeks ago just went up. I didn't play particularly well, but mostly for a few simple reasons. I mostly just need to be a little less dumb about some shield-grabs, be a little more cautious about spacing aerials on shields, be a little more cautious with some ftilts by the edge, and stop descending with stupid dairs that either miss or hit the front of the shield (hitting the back of the shield is fine; otherwise, this might be the rare instance in which I actually decide to use inhale in the future, although it's more likely that I'll just waveland backwards). My execution could also be afford to be better, but that's just a matter of not letting rust accumulate as often as I do. On the bright side, I was able to get some practice in match-ups that I have very little experience in. Anyways, the videos:

Fly vs. Okami/3Years- Some okay stuff, some not so okay stuff, and lots of even more mediocre stuff in between.

Fly vs. Ripn- Not all that much DDD stuff in here, but still a few games. People who want to watch some of my secondaries and tertiaries for whatever reason can look at the rest.

 

[JTsm]

I appreciate the vids. Wish there was more D3 rep. Such a fun character to watch and play.

 

[zman804]

http://www.twitch.tv/azprojectmelee/c/2049276

Heyseuss (D3) vs Forward (Ike, Fox)

Some good stuff here. Heyseuss has a really solid D3 all though he doesn't post on forums very much.

http://www.twitch.tv/azprojectmelee/c/2050003

Heyseuss (D3) vs Forward (Falco, Fox)

This was a run back (and I believe a MM)

 

[heysuess]

Hey guys. Here are some matches from an AZ tourney (PAZ) that was last week.

First match is against Calabrel. 2 out of 3, tourney match. I jumped ahead to when I used D3, he beat my Ivysaur pretty bad the first game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBVshQf6gsU&feature=player_detailpage#t=254s


Here is another match against Tai. He's a Melee player from AZ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOdPhrUL4Ms

Here is another tourney match against Taj.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQv6JmwkDEA

Great sets. Please feel free to leave any feedback. Positive or negative.

 

[Ripple]

you need to play more in the air. DDD has a terrible approach game on the ground.

jump up and close some space, then come down with bair/inhale/grab/ fake out f-tilt

 

[TheReflexWonder]

http://youtu.be/9fVMzDH425s

 

[SnatoWhato]

I want to add King Dedede to my mains. I find him oodles of fun to play as, and as a result I end up playing around when I play as him. Here's a few fights I made practicing. Anyone have any advice for maining the King?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUYqQcibwj8

 

[Ripple]

I highly suggest you play human opponents. computers won't help you at all

 

[SnatoWhato]

I highly suggest you play human opponents. computers won't help you at all

Hah hah, I know the CPU is limited. But alot of my old smash rivals are married and moved away. The only people that play with me now aren't very good.. I usually have to hold back to keep them playing, cuz if I actually try they would get bored.. or frustrated. But I do get to play with my good friends on occasions. When I do, I'll try to use Dedede and post the video.

But practicing against the computer is still plenty good in order to get used to a character you don't main. From what you saw what do you think I could do to improve on my Dedede game? Like I said before, I tend to goof around with him alot. But I'd like to add him to my mains because I have like, no heavy characters.

 

[AznGamer405]

A friend of mine, who goes by GammaWaves would like his DDD critiqued.

Me (Tink) vs GammaWaves (Best of Three) - 9/19/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC8fQEnqVF8&list=PLnlhbqKWCybUo8_Uvylq4gVAVFpv4vnap&index=19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUjTf0dkF-0

Me (Tink) vs GammaWaves (Best of Seven) - 9/19/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS_L...ew-vl&list=PLnlhbqKWCybVf3NGAk_u6oXBqcawuzuNw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqpqEI-Clpo&list=PLnlhbqKWCybVf3NGAk_u6oXBqcawuzuNw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXBqbBzyNAo&list=PLnlhbqKWCybVf3NGAk_u6oXBqcawuzuNw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i43gz2HX1Lw&list=PLnlhbqKWCybVf3NGAk_u6oXBqcawuzuNw

Xethos (Snake) vs GammaWaves (Best of Three) - 9/19/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8qb_ZpRHLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jskVZnyOrH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8qb_ZpRHLA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUmrt1syyql1hf74Usn4RDxQ

Thanks for watching.

 

[Nequ]

I watched 2 Matches (1st on PS and 2nd on SV) and this is what i would like to point out.

On Stage, he just uses 6 moves: Grab, SideB, Smashes and Rolling. I saw one random f-tilt and that makes me sad. This is one awesome spacing tool with an insane range. JabJab to Grab is also kinda good (i guess). And where're the b-airs?
OffStage he waits for the F-Smash. No F-Air, no WaddleDee, nothing! Simply no gimps. But Dedede has good gimps, not only the F-Smash.

That's what i could point out. I play Dedede often against my friends, but they never play snake or tink. Maybe others could proof me wrong.

 

[Gammawaves]

So after watching over these matches myself, i agree with nequ as far as ftilt and all the airs. the only issue i have is when i short jump i have alot of trouble Lcanceling when i hit the floor so if they shield the airiel then they can punish pretty hard. i usually fsmash against TL and snake as their recoveries are predictable but im trying to edgegaurd differently against recoveries like lucarios

 

[| Big D |]

Big D VS RobyX (Video Here) W2

Big D VS RobyX (Video Here) L6

Big D VS Meta (Video Here) LSF

DieSlow VS Big D (Part 1)(Part 2) LF

If anyone has some Falco technology I'd love to hear it. Took Yakal to game 5 in a mm but Falco seems to get the best of me. Fox isn't as bad because lasers don't immobilize you. Managed to beat Toph at gameclucks

 

[9bit]

In your match vs Meta I love how the one dude said that Dedede's down-B was "********."

Not like Fox's upsmash or up-throw to up-air. No, those are legit guys. Because Melee.

Great stuff though. I'd like to see you go deeper off stage to edgeguard, but that may just be personal preference on my part.

 

[| Big D |]

Yeah my edgeguards need a lot of work lol. If anyone has tips for me in that area it would be much appreciated.

 

[9bit]

One important thing about Dedede's edgeguarding, in my opinion, is how fast he fast-falls. So, what you can do relatively often is full jump off the stage, so that covers if they recover high and maybe makes them try to avoid it, so then they recover mid or low. If they then go mid or low you can either fast fall into an aerial or just use down-air, which pops them up into a perfect position to forward-air. You fall so fast that you can usually get down to their level very quickly. If they are in front of you: Fair, if they are below you: Dair to Fair.

A couple of times when you were edge-hogging Fox and you repeatedly went for back-airs, you could have thrown in a forward-air to finish him off on the back-airs that didn't send him too far. One thing I've been practicing lately is that: quick turn-around forward-airs. That is, either falling from the ledge and turning to use Fair or doing a Bair into a turnaround Fair. I'm working on the timing because obviously if you attack too fast after jumping you won't turn around.

You basically want to force Fox and Falco to use their up-B's instead of side-B's because there is that period of time where they are stuck in place, and you should be up in their faces with a Fair at that point.

 

[9bit]

Eli as DDD at Sudden Death 14: http://youtu.be/8RK1PNtECCA?t=4m44s

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Socal started having PM tourneys recently, which is nice since it gives me an opportunity to actually play against people semi-regularly and work on some of my faults. Videos come with the tourneys, so here's some of what I've got recorded at the two I've been to so far:

From the first SSS PM tourney, hosted on October 27th:

WFs, vs Okami (Sheik/TL/Fox)
GFs, vs DSF (MK)

From the second one, hosted on November 10th (all of these are on a Twitch archive rather than YT):

vs Aggro (Squirtle)
vs Disqo (Snake/Diddy)
WQFs, vs. Heysuess (DDD)
WSFs, vs Okami (TL/Ike)
WFs, vs DSF (MK/Fox)
GFs, vs DEHF (Fox)

 

[9bit]

Socal started having PM tourneys recently, which is nice since it gives me an opportunity to actually play against people semi-regularly and work on some of my faults. Videos come with the tourneys, so here's some of what I've got recorded at the two I've been to so far:

From the first SSS PM tourney, hosted on October 27th:

WFs, vs Okami (Sheik/TL/Fox)
GFs, vs DSF (MK)

I've only watched these first two so far but wow, that Fox edge guarding was on-point man. Great stuff.

 

[9bit]

VGBootCamp just uploaded some G-reg stuff.

S@X Weekly - G-regulate (DeDeDe) Vs. JSP (Sheik) Project M Bracket - Super Smash Bros.
S@X Weekly - JCaesar (ROB) Vs. G-regulate (DeDeDe) Project M Winners Semis - Super Smash Bros.

 

[ManoxMano]

Man the way real 3D players use this character....
it mystifies me

 

[Ripple]

here are some of my 3.0 ddd vids. possibly more to come

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gny8FOfLo5I Ripple vs. Kels (Falcon/fox)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmyKm7U5x7M me. vs. Oro?! (ZSS)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np5ET3rVWB4 me vs. plasma (lucas)

first time ever playing against a ZSS and lucas with DDD. quite happy anyways

 

[Ripple]

me vs. Metroid

maybe now you'll critique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oVZnFU-unc

 

[9bit]

me vs. Metroid

maybe now you'll critique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oVZnFU-unc

I really enjoyed your DDD play in this set.

Any criticism I can come up with would only involve tiny nitpicks of stuff you probably already noticed from watching it yourself, but I'll throw some out there anyway.

General Stuff:

• Waddle use is really good, especially on FD where it's really necessary
  
• I absolutely love your use of Swallow in this set, especially the wavebounce Swallows out of Waddle Dash recovery
• Your edgeguarding could have been more... daring. It's tough against Ike I know, but I feel like you should have gone off stage more and tried to stuff him. Metroid is really good though, and he was throwing out great hitboxes with his sword to help him recover and prevent you from doing that... also Ike's up-B is redonk
  
• I like that you didn't always ledge-jump to D-air, which is a really tempting and overused DDD strat
• There were a few times you tried to N-air or F-air when an Up-air would have been better but hey in the heat of battle it's sometimes a crapshoot

Specific Stuff:

• Your grab combination at 1:09 was beautiful. He was DI'ing for a backthrow and you did downthrow to regrab and then backthrow, I love it!
• Game 1 certainly was yours to lose, as you had a decent lead, but it seemed to all fall apart around 3:48 for you. It seemed like Metroid got in your head at this point. You started playing a little scared
  
• In game 2 I thought you could have kept this "combo" going with the B-airs longer at 6:03
• I also liked the more frequent use of F-tilt as a kind of zoning tool in game 2 overall
• Great combo at 8:21

I will write more later. Too drunk. Good **** though man

 

[Ripple]

More tournament videos, in order of how I played them

vs. Lucario/pit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWpfj6S4-ls

vs. Ness/Mario http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oCgqx8EgZQ

vs. ZSS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne0iVxdmM-Q

vs. Falcon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZpEJT5Y5ag

vs. Wolf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tyvl_5IddA

 

[9bit]

Some great matches in there, but dear god most of the commentators are incredibly annoying and uninformed :/ with the exception of Oro and the 2 guys in the last match vs Wolf

 

[victra♥]

I just got 3rd place at a local yesterday, i'll have some of my vids up soon for some critique! I would love some advice!

 

[| Big D |]

WQF vs Vish

WSF vs Bladewise

WF vs Silent Wolf

LF vs Gimpyfish

GF vs Silent Wolf

Tips vs Wolf would be cool, did better in WF but considering picking someone up for that MU.

 

[victra♥]

Nice to see you around the dedede boards again BigD! I've got some of my matches up now too, i would love some criticism

Winners Quarters vs Dragonz

Losers Quarters vs Kuraudo

Losers Semis vs Limeee

Losers Finals vs Crusayer

 

[9bit]

I'm watching Big D's stuff right now and it's really good. Only critiques I have so far is an under-usage of Jab and Down-Smash. But your adaptability is fantastic. Once I finish with these I can't wait to watch your stuff, victra

 

[Ripple]

I just finished Big D's vids. I'm glad someone else plays like me, although he's more aggro in the neutral.

also Big D. you were becoming VERY repetitive at certain points. Otto was all over you

 

[Silent Wolf]

I'm gonna destroy u next time dawson.

 

[| Big D |]

no u

I'll break the game if I have to. Already found an infinite so can't be that hard.

Also why didn't you pose with me at the end of WF?

Def gotta figure something out to stop being repetitive. Advice for Wolf would be great. I keep hearing how bad his recovery is but I'm unsure of what to look for.

Also Victor inhale is godlike against all heavies, especially to land. They are slow and are most likely not going to dash away. I like how when you had space you threw waddles. Those are also godly vs heavies.

 

[9bit]

Losers Semis vs Limeee

A couple of notes on this match (and matchup). When Sheik is recovering and barely going to make it, you don't have to keep falling off and re-grabbing the ledge. You don't need invincibility as the latter part of Sheik's up-B does not have a hitbox. Limeee got back to the ledge on Dreamland because you kept doing that. Just sit there on the ledge and let Sheik fall to her death.

And when Sheik can make it farther and has to land on stage, just do a regular getup. The one where you push the control stick towards the stage to quickly stand up, I don't know if it has a technical name. From there you can grab or jab to grab, down-B, inhale, really anything fast. Sheik has a lot of landing lag on up-B, abuse it.

Also you never seem to go for any Up-B "sweetspots." Are you worried you'll do it wrong and fall to your death or are you not aware of it? You can cancel your Up-B very close to the ledge to grab it quickly; you always seem to go very high with your Up-B's which leaves you vulnerable.

 

[Smur]

Man those D3 vs Ike matches Ripple, I like your style it's so patient. I'll try to get some of my D3 vids up granted the host records matches at a tournament that's supposed to happen in 2 days :]