The Bubbleshield: *New and Improved!*

[TheSpindoctor]

That could be a possibilty... If I remember correctly Mista Sakurai once said he would improve air combat didn't he?

This could be doing either of those things.

Hey, getting endlessly juggled/air combo? Just shield in the air and you will be ok until you reach the ground.

See what i mean, this could eliminate air combat!

 

[SR Raptor]

The new and improved shields. Has everyone forgot that Snake's box will be in the game. What if each character has their own shield?

I could imagine Snake whipping out the box, or Yoshi jumping in his Egg, Mario turning Metal, Luigi pulling his hat down, Meta-knight covering himself with his wings.

I dunno, I guess if Yoshi can do it in Melee and Snake is supposed to still use his box, then perhaps everyone will have unique shields.

 

[Ess oh Aytch]

Shields that don't give 360 degrees of defense would be extremely disadvantaged. Yoshi's egg is not a fair comparison, since it covers his entire body. Metaknight's wings don't. Not to mention we'd have no idea when the shield would "break," unless the characters turned red, and we wouldn't be able to point a shield in a certain direction to counter attacks. It's just a terrible idea if you ask me.

 

[Hydde]

no personalized shields... the buuble is fine...


about the air shield..... im still not sure... it can chnage the gameplay drastically.

 

[SR Raptor]

@Ess oh Aytch and Hydde. You just simplified things too much. It's not an entirely bad idea, if you truly believe that the bubbles are what you want then I can't change your mind, but it would add another level to the game and make it somewhat comedic.

I suppose there are some good ideas and some meh ideas, but ouch, to just simplify and call it terrible is harsh man, its speculation and nothing more.

 

[Chepe]

Snake will not have his box as a shield, the second trailer proves it. If he did use his box, he would have to shuffle around inside his box to roll around enemies, and when he rolls around Pit, theres no box... Id rather think the box will be a defensive B move (hopefully neutral B, as that would make Snake Kirby the most badass character ever!)...

Characteristic shields may work for some characters other than Yoshi, but I think bubble shield will still be there as the norm...

 

[Pyroloserkid]

@Ess oh Aytch and Hydde. You just simplified things too much. It's not an entirely bad idea, if you truly believe that the bubbles are what you want then I can't change your mind, but it would add another level to the game and make it somewhat comedic.

I suppose there are some good ideas and some meh ideas, but ouch, to just simplify and call it terrible is harsh man, its speculation and nothing more.

Thanks for the support.
Now I don't really stand by my idea 100%, but I just made this thread to discuss some possibilities of the game, not to say what be a totally amazing idea and would HAVE to be in Brawl or I'm boycotting it.

 

[Ess oh Aytch]

@Ess oh Aytch and Hydde. You just simplified things too much. It's not an entirely bad idea, if you truly believe that the bubbles are what you want then I can't change your mind, but it would add another level to the game and make it somewhat comedic.

I suppose there are some good ideas and some meh ideas, but ouch, to just simplify and call it terrible is harsh man, its speculation and nothing more.

I didn't simplify it at all. I take it to depth. Think about the gameplay. Your backside will be completely vulnerable to attack, while Snakes "box," wouldn't. The bubbles increase the depth of how you can defend yourself in this game, and it also adds to originality. There is no logic in taking it out.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

I didn't simplify it at all. I take it to depth. Think about the gameplay. Your backside will be completely vulnerable to attack, while Snakes "box," wouldn't. The bubbles increase the depth of how you can defend yourself in this game, and it also adds to originality. There is no logic in taking it out.

Well each charatcer has their own unique moveset and look...I wouldn't be surprised if characters had unique shields too. Some may cover 360 degrees, others may not.

 

[Shark X]

Most smashers LOVE the bubbleshield from SSB64 and SSBM. Different coloured bubbles, 360 degrees of protection, and you can grab from inside it. What's not to love?

From what we've seen on The DOJO! , the bubble shield is either more transparent and colourless than in Melee, or it's not there at all. If the colourful bubble shields were to return, here is my idea for an improvement:

Being able to use the Bubble Shield in MID AIR. Yes, in the air. It would look odd being surrounded in a colourful bubble randomly in mid air...but it also looks awkward on the ground, we've just gotten used to it.

So what do you think? Comments? Improvements? Agree? Disagree? Flame? =]

-And no, I didn't mispell "colour" , I'm Canadian.

...And you complained about MY topic?

The bubbles are obviously missing from the pics on the dojo, because we would rather see the character instead of a bubble. They will be added back in the real game.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

They will be added back in the real game.

Once again you cannot say things like that since you have yet to play the game.

 

[SR Raptor]

If these characters are fighters then they know how to tense their muscles. IRL when you are fighting you can tense your muscles to act as a shield.

For an example their shields may just involve them standing there like Dr Doom from MUA and looking cool. Possible probably not, but I believe a departure from the bubbly shields would be worth it.

I am saying that the shields can be personalized and I tossed some of my examples out, no one knows if they will be in there and if they were in there how they would be used

 

[Ess oh Aytch]

It's still disadvantaged. You can move the bubble shield any direction that could support your defense. I'm sorry, but muscles will not work against fire and electricity. And bubble shields are classic.

 

[Falco&Victory]

bumb, to stop all the new thread making

and this return is epic in so many ways

powershielding looks easier, and gameplay in the vid today looked adbass

 

[Ryudragon29]

Weird because I saw a red shield, it happened fast so I understand you didn't see it. I prefer air dodge over a shield in mid air although the thoguht of grabbing someone when jumping is quite entertaining.

(Just noticed it was an old thread, you can disregard my first sentence)

 

[Team Giza]

wtf. From what I read you people want to make aerial combat in Brawl exactly like the ground combat. I think that is stupid and kinda gets rid of some of the major aspects of the Smash Bros series.

 

[Jumpinjahosafa]

The box is NOT snakes shield, as demonstrated in today's video.

And air dodging is sexy.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

Ok, forget about shielding in midair, let's just make this the "RETURN OF THE BUBBLE SHIELD" thread.

 

[BossNasty73]

before we forget about shielding midair, how about just powershielding midair. that way you cant abuse an air shield and if youre being edgeguarded than you can try and powershield it midair. If you succeed, than you get no knockback or damage and if you time it wrong you risk airdodging to your death. Kind of like parrying in Street fighter 3 third strike.

 

[Falco&Victory]

before we forget about shielding midair, how about just powershielding midair. that way you cant abuse an air shield and if youre being edgeguarded than you can try and powershield it midair. If you succeed, than you get no knockback or damage and if you time it wrong you risk airdodging to your death. Kind of like parrying in Street fighter 3 third strike.

um... or the battle system is fine how it is. Say bye bye to finishing an air combo with a charged beam or something haha

 

[Xigger]

But the airdodge has already been confirmed (or at least, shown on Dojo) So.... meh.

 

[Falco&Victory]

but you can't airdodge if you're wobbling

I guess if aerial powershielding was only possible in the air and was frame-perfect It could work

but about the confirmed shield, It doesn't seem to shrink very fast. But it starts out smaller apparently

 

[garbage]

I always thought mid-air grabs would be great for epic combos and the like.

 

[RazeveX]

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=107549

 

[SOJ]

OMG mid air grabs do sound pretty epic.

I'm not sure about a bubble shield in the air though...doesn't sound too appealing.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

um... or the battle system is fine how it is. Say bye bye to finishing an air combo with a charged beam or something haha

Lol, exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Link Sharingan]

most of the time i used the bubble shield too guard agains projectiles

 

[Kashakunaki]

It's spelt color, nub!

Haha. Bubble shields rule.

 

[BubbleShield]

yeah, I want to fly

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Snake has a bubble shield, NOT a cardboard box.

Yes, that's Snake in the shield. Mario is above him.
Sonic is not present in this screenshot.

 

[Takeshi245]

That post SSJ4Kazuji just about owned this thread. No air grabs and no air shields, guys. That's a fact.

 

[Falco&Victory]

ummm... where were airshields and grabs unconfirmed? Of course they won't be in knowing Sakurai, but saying they're unconfirmed is false

and bubbleshields own

 

[raphtmarqui]

Air grabs and air shields are pointless.

 

[Hydde]

o, about the powershield in the air, i like it much more than the bubble shiled in midair. When you are cornered against an attack that will kill you outside the paltform, and you dont have your jump... the only thing we can do is to airdodge and hope for the best, but the pwrshield, the edguarded player can suddenly change the situation and try something, isntead of landing on the tage just to be smahed again by the edguarder.


About the aerial grabs... the best i can think of, is something like Guile Backbreaker from the Street fighters... the grab you do in the air and make you fall with the enemy to the ground and break him. Its difficult to do but looks great. I just dont like the way pf airbrabbing out of platform-throwing somone down-pwnage wa.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

1 page back I said forget about my dumb air shield idea, and let's make this the OFFICIAL RETURN OF BUBBLE SHIELDS thread...but obviously people would enjoy flaming my lame idea's for a bit longer... =D

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

1 page back I said forget about my dumb air shield idea, and let's make this the OFFICIAL RETURN OF BUBBLE SHIELDS thread...but obviously people would enjoy flaming my lame idea's for a bit longer... =D

Because it's just so much FUN!

 

[Finn Macool]

They could only introduce ariel shields if you had ariel grabs to counter them and the grabs would only work if they only held for a really short time so yu couldn't just suicide with other people

 

[raphtmarqui]

Looks like all the wild speculation was wrong...

 

[pwnzorz]

i'm liking the air dodge and air shield idea. and maybe shield-grabbing via air!!!

 

[Falco&Victory]

i'm liking the air dodge and air shield idea. and maybe shield-grabbing via air!!!

ummm.... air battle would become ground battle in the air lol

Anyway I highly enjoy aerial combat as it is

especially in .5%damage jiggly dittos