The Bringer of Sin & Punishment: Saki Amamiya for Smash Switch (Happy 19th Anniversary to the Sin & Punishment Franchise)

[RileyXY1]

Daisy (in her classic outfit) is a Spirit. It is now pretty much confirmed that being a Spirit is not an automatic deconfirmation.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Being a Mii Fighter costume is not a deconfirmation, especially considering other playable characters have Mii Fighter costumes based on them.

It's even next to a Chrom costume.

 

[SPEN18]

Cool that Saki at least has a Mii Costume. I'm still not sure if that's better or worse representation than an AT. On one hand, it means we don't get a full new 3D render of him, but on the other hand it makes it easier to pretend that we're playing as him.

 

[Nauzgo]

Is there a list yet where you can view all the Mii Fighter costumes? I wonder what else they didn't show us in the direct.

 

[CardStealer1]

Wait, Saki got a mii costume, but no AT? That’s definitely interesting. Either Sakurai’s team didn’t prioritize making a Saki AT that could be KO’ed, or maybe just maybe, there’s something in the works. Likely the former, but this is the first game in 10 years where Saki wasn’t deconfirmed so let me dream dang it.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

I hear you friend. I'm going to be cautiously optimistic with this one. Happy about the costume at the least. I don't play with ATs often so this means he'll have something more of an inclusion in my matches (even though I'm not a fan of Miis)

 

[Strider_123]

why have a custume if the fighter is avalible to play? That part doesn't make sense to me

 

[Oracle_Summon]

why have a custume if the fighter is avalible to play? That part doesn't make sense to me

Exactly. Saki's Assist Trophy hasn't been seen so DLC is still possible. Jut do not give up on your character.

 

[Flyboy]

If my prediction about Sin & Punishment being a big N64 Classic title comes true, I could see Saki as being potentially one of the DLC. I'm glad there's a costume, though!

 

[SPEN18]

why have a custume if the fighter is avalible to play? That part doesn't make sense to me

Yeah, it seems kinda weird. But as has been stated, Chrom has a Mii Costume despite being playable, so having a Mii Costume doesn't take you out of the running. I suppose some people might also want to use, say, Chrom's hair but not his clothes.

 

[verysleepywolf]

How strange that Saki is unscathed by the many AT massacres we've had. Especially compared to the likes of heavy-hitters like Ashley, Isaac, and (sniffle) Skull Kid.

I'm not sure what to think.

It's probably nothing, but playable Saki would be awesome.

 

[RileyXY1]

How strange that Saki is unscathed by the many AT massacres we've had. Especially compared to the likes of heavy-hitters like Ashley, Isaac, and (sniffle) Skull Kid.

I'm not sure what to think.

It's probably nothing, but playable Saki would be awesome.

Only 7 ATs from Smash 4 did not return, either as an Assist Trophy or as a playable character. They are Kat & Ana, Saki, Tingle, Lakitu, Infantry & Tanks, Elec Man, and Magnus.

 

[SPEN18]

Kat & Ana, Saki, Tingle, and Infantry & Tanks were really strange omissions to me because iirc they were all ATs since Brawl. Especially Saki and I&T because both S&P and AW had little representation outside of those ATs.

At least WarioWare still has Ashley and Tingle appears on Great Bay. Kid Icarus and Mega Man also have other ATs in Phosphora & Zero. Lakitu is a Mario series character, which has a handful of ATs already including the new Thwomp AT.

If Saki wasn't gonna be playable, I would've been nice to at least see his Smash 4 model touched up a bit. Unless he's DLC, which doesn't seem very likely given that Nintendo is making the selections.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

why have a custume if the fighter is avalible to play? That part doesn't make sense to me

so that when your friend plays that character, you can play as a disgusting mii dressed as that character and claim that the other player is playing a poser. one of my favorite miis to play is called "Link?" I only ever select him if one friend plays Link and the other Toon Link. Its a special kind of dumb fun.

 

[Guynamednelson]

so that when your friend plays that character, you can play as a disgusting mii dressed as that character and claim that the other player is playing a poser. one of my favorite miis to play is called "Link?" I only ever select him if one friend plays Link and the other Toon Link. Its a special kind of dumb fun.

I hope you're gonna have a third friend play Young Link.

 

[Dreamking]

I played S&P briefly on the Wii. It was an okay game, but couldn't get used to the controls. That being said, it'd be nice to see Saki as a playable character.

I checked out footage to refresh my memory. A couple ideas to share. One, I think one of his palettes should be his half human/ruffian form. Second, I see him turning into his giant ruffian incarnation and targeting the opponents.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

I hope you're gonna have a third friend play Young Link.

yes, that would be nice. Though I do find humor in saying a three man free-for-all, "what this match needs is all the Links" and instead of selecting Young Link, selecting 'Link?'

 

[Saer2k]

Dang, it's been awhile since this board was active. Hopefully I can break silence that here and start off by
asking "What do you guys think the chance of Saki being DLC?" Also, "How do you guys think they would
reveal him?"

 

[Tetrin]

While I'd much rather see Isa represent the series, I still support Saki. The series has always been critically acclaimed and I think that Nintendo should show some love instead of letting all their dead franchises slowly fade away into inexistence.

 

[RileyXY1]

While I'd much rather see Isa represent the series, I still support Saki. The series has always been critically acclaimed and I think that Nintendo should show some love instead of letting all their dead franchises slowly fade away into inexistence.

Sakurai could revive the series like he did for Kid Icarus, especially considering how big of a Sin & Punishment fan he is.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Also, if they ever decide to do a N64 Classic, the first S&P is a must to have on it. It would get more noticed by default then.

 

[RileyXY1]

Also, if they ever decide to do a N64 Classic, the first S&P is a must to have on it. It would get more noticed by default then.

The only alternative would be the original N64 version of Animal Crossing, but that is just an inferior version of the original GameCube game.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Also, if they ever decide to do a N64 Classic, the first S&P is a must to have on it. It would get more noticed by default then.

They have to 1-up the SNES Classic having Star Fox 2 somehow. I would also love it if it had the international release of some 64DD games, namely the F-Zero X expansion.

 

[SPEN18]

Shoot, I was planning on making a post in here during Saki's day for Rate Their Chances to get the word out.

But anyway, I think Saki's chances for DLC are slim but he's not impossible. Right now I'm not convinced I'm buying any DLC, but a S&P PC would change my mind.

Edit: for a potential Saki reveal, I imagine Star Fox as the most likely crossover for the trailer.

 

[Saer2k]

While I'd much rather see Isa represent the series, I still support Saki. The series has always been critically acclaimed and I think that Nintendo should show some love instead of letting all their dead franchises slowly fade away into inexistence.

Saki and Isa would be nice to have together, I would imagine they could play semi-differently from one another, like Isa being more
fast and agile, and Saki being more heavy hitting. Thankfully we know Sakurai didn't forget about the series, with having two spirits and a mii costume. It still makes me question why Saki assist trophy was removed tho, he was in every pass game except this one.

 

[smashkirby]

Sakurai could revive the series like he did for Kid Icarus, especially considering how big of a Sin & Punishment fan he is.

Heck, Sin and Punishment's gameplay style (Rail-gun shooter and all) served as the inspiration for Kid Icarus Uprising's gameplay, so...

Dang, it's been awhile since this board was active. Hopefully I can break silence that here and start off by
asking "What do you guys think the chance of Saki being DLC?" Also, "How do you guys think they would
reveal him?"

Hmm... I'd have to agree with SPEN18 . Saki's chances are pretty slim, but the guy's certainly not impossible. Personally, I think that him NOT being an AT this time around actually helps his chances somewhat.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I guess I am back.

And yes, you all should get in on this too. I know Saki is no longer an AT, but we can't forget that he used to be one and this means more publicity for him in the end

Where are my Saki family at?

 

[RileyXY1]

I guess I am back.

And yes, you all should get in on this too. I know Saki is no longer an AT, but we can't forget that he used to be one and this means more publicity for him in the end

Where are my Saki family at?

Still here.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Still here.

Yes, glad to see you again.

I guess I can wait on the others if they want to see me back.

 

[Nauzgo]

Mostly only reading but I'm here too. You know, it's kinda hard to find the time to replay great Games like S&P 2 when you also have like 10 new Games you want to play.

That said, has anyone here played the first one? I mean I'd love to play it but my Wii's dead lol. You think it's going to be part of a potential N64 Mini? Would be neat if we were to have it on there alongside Custom Robo V2, our fellas.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Mostly only reading but I'm here too. You know, it's kinda hard to find the time to replay great Games like S&P 2 when you also have like 10 new Games you want to play.

That said, has anyone here played the first one? I mean I'd love to play it but my Wii's dead lol. You think it's going to be part of a potential N64 Mini? Would be neat if we were to have it on there alongside Custom Robo V2, our fellas.

I played the first game, it's still ahead of its time.

And yes, it SHOULD be on the N64 Classic, that would be a good way to give Sin & Punishment more publicity.

 

[SPEN18]

That said, has anyone here played the first one?

I have S&P1 on Virtual Console.

But yeah, it would be nice to have more than just NES games on the Switch, though I haven't payed for the online service anyway.

Whenever I get access to my Wii U it gets played just as much as my Switch.

 

[smashkirby]

I guess I am back.

And yes, you all should get in on this too. I know Saki is no longer an AT, but we can't forget that he used to be one and this means more publicity for him in the end

Where are my Saki family at?

Well, you know I'm never leaving.

Nintendo's less-than-notable IPs do need all the attention they can get.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Well, you know I'm never leaving.

Nintendo's less-than-notable IPs do need all the attention they can get.

Yeah, though it's a pity they're on fairly lower priority for now. At least is nearly running out of logical choices that aren't "recurring enemy #37".

I have S&P1 on Virtual Console.

But yeah, it would be nice to have more than just NES games on the Switch, though I haven't payed for the online service anyway.

Whenever I get access to my Wii U it gets played just as much as my Switch.

Well, the good news is we may have SNES games coming, according to an apparent datamine, so that's a start.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

N64 games being on the Switch is likelier than GameCube games on the Switch.

Imagine online multiplayer Sin & Punishment. That would be too good to pass.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

N64 games being on the Switch is likelier than GameCube games on the Switch.

Imagine online multiplayer Sin & Punishment. That would be too good to pass.

Exactly.

Because let's be honest, the Nintendo 64 hardly had any heavy hitters and they depended own Rare at the time

So if we can't have Rare games in the N64 Classic (it's all up to Microsoft), I can see enough room for Sin & Punishment being there.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Exactly.

Because let's be honest, the Nintendo 64 hardly had any heavy hitters and they depended own Rare at the time

So if we can't have Rare games in the N64 Classic (it's all up to Microsoft), I can see enough room for Sin & Punishment being there.

Mischief Makers as well, don't forget.

Granted, Konami does support anything that isn't Castlevania for the recent online service, so I think we may get to see the Bomberman and Goemon games as well.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Mischief Makers as well, don't forget.

Granted, Konami does support anything that isn't Castlevania for the recent online service, so I think we may get to see the Bomberman and Goemon games as well.

I hope so.

Konami does have a lot more redemption needed since those were their biggest games on the 64.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I can't have the Sucessor of Earth fail on me now, though I have a few discussions that should get us talking.

How many of you are expecting Saki to be a costume in Super Mario Maker 2?

Which Sin & Punishment game is better: 64 or Star Successor?

How many of you heard of the #AssistAlliance or support them? Because even if he's no Assist anymore, I partnered with them since I do want to push Saki to be a fighter.

And should we have a Sin & Punishment 3 in the near future? It can be on the Switch since Treasure is developing it or Nintendo's next console.

Few, there we go. I just want to go back to the old days of this topic having real activity.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I can't have the Sucessor of Earth fail on me now, though I have a few discussions that should get us talking.

Now were are talking. Saki wouldn't give up on Earth and we shouldn't. Especially when other groups are still talking about our character. We should as well,

How many of you are expecting Saki to be a costume in Super Mario Maker 2?

It's possible. I can see it happening, Treasure is developing games for the Switch again. So a costume with Sin & Punishment voice clips, bad voice acting aside, would be a good nod to the franchise.

Which Sin & Punishment game is better: 64 or Star Successor?

Both are good in their own right, but Star Sucessor is the better game. Better villains, better plot, better gameplay, and better overall voice acting.

I'd take Isa's screaming over Saki's badly acted grunts.

How many of you heard of the #AssistAlliance or support them? Because even if he's no Assist anymore, I partnered with them since I do want to push Saki to be a fighter.

I heard of it, in fact I am one of the big heads of it. They are a great group and of course I have all sorts of fun talking about Saki with you there. So yes, it would help him alot. He may be just a costume, but he is still one of the AT's in Spirit (no pun intended).

And should we have a Sin & Punishment 3 in the near future? It can be on the Switch since Treasure is developing it or Nintendo's next console.

Good question. Treasure had been stopping games for a long time after subsequent failures with Gaist Crusher so long ago. And now they are laying low with small projects like porting old games on the Switch. They could make a remaster of Star Successor or the first game if they want. Or just make a third sequel. It depends on what become of Earth after Star Successor's ending.