The BlazBlue Thread: all the imports!

[Takeshi245]

*Lands epicly* Whoo!! Haven't been to Smashboards in a while! Nice to see there's an epic BlazBlue topic here! *Smiles* Anyways, InterimofZeal, I have a good friend of mine that's REALLY good with Rachel, but I'm not sure if he'll be willing to face you since he doesn't know you. Well, I'm sure you'll get better as you keep training and fighting against awesome people! Heck, I'm pretty good with one and only main, Ragna, and I have the game for the Xbox 360 without even owning one. Dead serious. LOL. You see, I copied a method my friend did in which he would get his games before the console. I did that for my Xbox and my Wii so I'm doing it for my Xbox 360 as well.

Anyways, since I'm in UConn, when I have free time, I go to the Game Room when I have a chance to practice combos. Now that I have made friends that have gone to tournaments and are better than me in BlazBlue, my Ragna has some nasty practice! *Grins*

 

[Minato]

Heyyyyyyyyyyyy

You're cali. Got xbl? I REALLY NEED TO FIGHT RACHEL!

I would play you, but I have an arcade stick and BB for the PS3. Otherwise, I would.

And I just fought a really good Jin player yesterday. I didn't know what to do. I couldn't find the right time to punish him either. I guess I'm going to have to read up on the matchup now.

 

[SpeedAcE]

Jin can be very annoying. I main Jin, and when I have to play another one I'm just like ugh.

My advice is to be patient and bait his drives. A good Jin will cover all his openings with safe pressure, zoning, and most of all they'll be waiting for you go above them to try and get around their drive attacks so they can lol you with blizzard. (it even has invincibility frames) Also it's even unsafe to pressure Jin in a lot of cases because he can just instant block -> C variations. So just chill and wait for your chance.

 

[Psychoace]

I thi...s ga e grimalkin life...

azure...azure...AZURE!!!! kehehehehehehe.

 

[Jam Stunna]

I was playing a Noel today, and beat him by the skin of my teeth and pure luck so he ragequitted on me. Ragequits always make me laugh.

 

[Matador]

I was playing a Noel today, and beat him by the skin of my teeth and pure luck so he ragequitted on me. Ragequits always make me laugh.

Not me...they penalize you for that **** on BB's online.

Unless they patched it, they count that as a disconnect for you too.

YOU NEED TO LEARN THE LOOP! SERIOUSLY! AGAINST GOOD PLAYERS, YOU'LL NEVER GET MORE THAN 2 OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT SOME SERIOUS WORK! LEARN THAT **** AND ABUSE IT!

You're probably going too fast if you're dropping the loop. I've lost so many matches because I try to play BB at Melee speed. Even Brawl input speed is faster sometimes. Just try pacing yourself.

Also, if you don't know how to yet, practice hitting with the part of the clap that does OBSCENE damage.

[2c>8d]*3=6k damage, if done right. Tack on a fermata at the end, and that's 7.5k damage. It makes them think twice about doing it, especially since you can shut the robot off at any part for a split second to reset her health scaling. I normally just do 2/3 reps, then start the claploop up again.

Carl is stupid as hell.

I definitely need to practice this, I had no idea there was this much depth to it. I'm starting to learn now that I need to really take advantage of the openings I get...vs Litchi or Jin players when I only get one or two openings...I need to make them count.

I'm actually trying a new button config too for commanding Nirvana a little more efficiently.

 

[Lythium]

I think the only time I've ever quit a match was because of lag. It was virtually unplayable, so I was kinda like... Really? What's the point?

Ragerquitters make me want to send messages saying: "lolumad?"

 

[Jam Stunna]

I think the only time I've ever quit a match was because of lag. It was virtually unplayable, so I was kinda like... Really? What's the point?

Ragerquitters make me want to send messages saying: "lolumad?"

I thought about sending him a message that said, "Every time a ragequit occurs, God kills a kitten" or something to that effect.

But I didn't want to be one of those guys. Most of the messages I get from BB are congratulatory or encouraging. It's not like SF IV, where every random player decides to question your sexuality or the morals of your mother after each match.

 

[CRASHiC]

 

[Lythium]

I'm distracted by the pretty chart.

Poor Tager.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

whats the difference between the PS3 version and the 360 version?

 

[Minato]

whats the difference between the PS3 version and the 360 version?

I'm pretty sure there's no difference.
Both of them are practically the same.

And judging on the chart, I do have somewhat of a problem with Nu, Jin, and Litchi. Those are her worst matchups which aren't too bad at all.
All I need to do is learn how to play them and I should be set.

 

[Lythium]

Nothing at all. Except the PS3 has a better D-pad.

I didn't know Jin had good matchups. Good to know.

 

[HURRICANE REV]

Blazblue needs to get a patch. There are somethings in the game that does not make sense at all. I prefer Guilty Gear more than Blazblue.

 

[noradseven]

Yep tager still owns... but seriously I main tager/rachel, wtf I wasn't even intending to play the top and bottom tier characters.

Also Im partial to belive the nu tager matchup is better than that, if nu bursts and tager predicts just one 5D tager wins the match automatically.

2D,RC,6A,2C,5D,shot,5C,6A,2C,623C IKs and already bursted carl and does 98% on nu, do another RC after the last attack and wham 100%.

 

[gsninja]

I still have a hard time believing that the Noel:Tager matchup is 60:40. I still think it's even at best for her.

 

[noradseven]

I still have a hard time believing that the Noel:Tager matchup is 60:40. I still think it's even at best for her.

Thats what you get for being predictable, also jab more than usual, and learn which moves we can super armor through, and ACTUALLY BAIT AND BLOCK GOD**** IT.

Seriously though every noel online does this string, drives..... ends with jumping overhead gun attack I think its like 6B, then flip kick, yeah.... block 720 free. seriously... STOP ITS NOT SAFE.

Actually none of your finishers are safe, you should really be careful about doing them.
flip kick, block 720.
slidebehind slam, 720 the slide(but its the trickest to punish truely)
shot forward, sledge CH
cancel and do flip kick grab, duck 360B, or 720 if you can actually consistantly do standing 720. *read not me.

Seriously though stay in the air ALOT, your j. jab > collider.

 

[epic of DE]

Yeah Tager gets...beaten down by most of the cast.
I just think that Tager has alot of proplems with hit box attributes on some moves (not a tager main so correct if I'm wrong)
The atomic collider seems to get beaten out by everything...so...Tager has bad aa right?

But hey at least he has an advantage against hakumen right?
I miss Potemkin already

 

[Lord Knight]

If anyone wants a REAL challenge, play Lord Qua on xbl.

That Litchi matchup chart is inaccurate btw.

NU - 5.0
AR - 4.5
RA - 5.5
JI - 5.0
CA - 5.0
RG - 4.5
TK - 5.0
NO - 5.5
BA - 5.0
HA - 5.0
TA - 6.0

 

[gsninja]

Thats what you get for being predictable, also jab more than usual, and learn which moves we can super armor through, and ACTUALLY BAIT AND BLOCK GOD**** IT.

Seriously though every noel online does this string, drives..... ends with jumping overhead gun attack I think its like 6B, then flip kick, yeah.... block 720 free. seriously... STOP ITS NOT SAFE.

Actually none of your finishers are safe, you should really be careful about doing them.
flip kick, block 720.
slidebehind slam, 720 the slide(but its the trickest to punish truely)
shot forward, sledge CH
cancel and do flip kick grab, duck 360B, or 720 if you can actually consistantly do standing 720. *read not me.

Seriously though stay in the air ALOT, your j. jab > collider.

I know how to fight Tager, haha. I don't spam drive, I'm not predictable, and I've known to aerial approach him the moment I picked up the game.

Every Tager online I've gone up against so far has been a better player than me. I've been fighting Tagers forever, I know what to do.

 

[Lord Knight]

You're probably mad predictable, just take the advice.

 

[Brightside6382]

lol the game hasn't even been out for that long and the divisions between tiers is already huge.

Super BlazBlue HD 2nd Impact Reloaded better come out soon

 

[CRASHiC]

man you forgot Japan.
Japan has been playing awhile now. They know how to play the game by now.

 

[Brightside6382]

man you forgot Japan.
Japan has been playing awhile now. They know how to play the game by now.

That still doesn't change the fact thats its only been out for not even a year now? Not even a year and the gap between each ranking is already huge. Seriously the tops already have a 45 difference with the next tier and from the top to the bottom its already over a 200 difference.

 

[Minato]

I find myself too predictable at times. I try to break away from my routine combos, but sometimes that puts me in a bad position since I don't know what to do.
I'm going to have to learn some new BnBs with Rachel. I'm sticking with some of her older combos still, unfortunately only because they're easy to pull off at the moment.

That still doesn't change the fact thats its only been out for not even a year now? Not even a year and the gap between each ranking is already huge. Seriously the tops already have a 45 difference with the next tier and from the top to the bottom its already over a 200 difference.

Yeah, the game's not balanced. Everyone pretty much knows that.
I'm still surprised how this game turned out considering all the weird moves and drives each character has.

 

[noradseven]

What do you mean by older combos, just the knockdown launcher air combo, or the frog resets, into super, into frog into aircomboz.

Also I just realized that chart is old carl has matchup adv on nu 55:45, or 60:40 last I heard.

Yeah Tager gets...beaten down by most of the cast.
I just think that Tager has alot of proplems with hit box attributes on some moves (not a tager main so correct if I'm wrong)
The atomic collider seems to get beaten out by everything...so...Tager has bad aa right?

But hey at least he has an advantage against hakumen right?
I miss Potemkin already

Yeah his AA options are ****.
They are p. much 6A(eats projectile moves and meaty as hell)
2C really slow doesn't go as high as you would expect.
j. airgrab,probably my fav, also j. IB airgrab.
j. AAAA
AAAAA, probably his best anti jump option, outside of maybe j. airgrab.
Sometimes you can surprise ppl with a collider but everything beats it.
Magna Tech wheel si great, 40 frames of super armor and if you have 100% meter you can RC to make it safe on block.

If tager had a solid AA he would be A TON better, because most of the time im getting stuck here is because most ppl are so terrified of his grabs they are jumping like crazy, thank god for air grab combos.

That still doesn't change the fact thats its only been out for not even a year now? Not even a year and the gap between each ranking is already huge. Seriously the tops already have a 45 difference with the next tier and from the top to the bottom its already over a 200 difference.

The only reason this is terrible is because there are only 12 characters, I mean its better than SFIV, and has only slightly less viable characters, hell in reality only tager shouldn't be viable, but mikeZ somehow does well.

 

[Lythium]

I love how the developers tried really hard to make sure that Tager wasn't overpowered, and he turns out way underpowered.

Poor Tager.

 

[CRASHiC]

Nah, Tager would be like a god if it wasn't for the inner game mechanics. He would destroy V-13 and Rachel once magnetized, or at least go even xD
The fact that you can tech everything he does ruins him.

 

[noradseven]

Nah, Tager would be like a god if it wasn't for the inner game mechanics. He would destroy V-13 and Rachel once magnetized, or at least go even xD
The fact that you can tech everything he does ruins him.

What do you mean you can't tech his 360/720 grabs unless he combo into them...or your still in block stun.

Hell its good they don't let you do it out of block stun otherwise 1 failed IB would mean free 360 or 720 in many cases.

His main problem is lack of solid AA, plus bursting gives everyone a get out of jail free card. If a good tager connects a hit with you after you bursted you lost thats p. much it, he has easy 6-8k*1.5 combos if he has like 50% meter, plus if tager has you in the corner and your magnetized your screwed.

 

[Lythium]

Just out of curiosity, norad, do you play on a stick?

 

[CRASHiC]

Really? I didn't know you could tech out of his grab combos. I was told you could. Misinformed.

 

[Minato]

What do you mean by older combos, just the knockdown launcher air combo, or the frog resets, into super, into frog into aircomboz.

I still do those, but sometimes I feel like I'm ending my combos too early. I have 4 winds that I can use in a combo, I should make better use of them instead of just 1 or 2 all the time.
Also, I think it might be lag or I'm screwing up the timing on buffering a frog and a dash, so I don't feel that comfortable doing frog combos unless I have them trapped in the corner since Rachel is closer to them during then.

Basically, my inexperience truly shows when I'm going up against a better Rachel.
They know what they're doing in the matchup better than me. I just need to break out of some of these old habits like 5a 5b 5c d 5c 236b 22a.

 

[Reioumu]

lol the game hasn't even been out for that long and the divisions between tiers is already huge.

Super BlazBlue HD 2nd Impact Reloaded better come out soon

Game has been out for over a year... It's been out long enough. Either way, a lot of the lists are innacurate in several ways. Like Carl being 55-45 against Bang? Carl can restrict Bang's movement, Nirvana eats nails, clap loop, etc. Bang can BARELY combo Carl and just does crappy against him. SURE SOUNDS 55-45!

 

[Minato]

Wow... I got my first hate mail for Blazblue. I was playing this guy's Ragna. He was only level 18 or so. I do my usual moves with Rachel and even went easy on him so he could get combos in.
I win all three rounds and leave the match. I just get a single mail that says "SPAMMING *****". I didn't respond, but seriously... It's just game.

 

[noradseven]

Actually I play both haha, 360 controller, stick, PS3 controller, whatever is on hand I am mostly proficiant with all of them, I am a bit faster on the with 720s on the 360 controller, but less likely to mess them up on a stick if I go for it. PS3 controllers I can only play with for about an 1/2 hour gahhh sandpaper.

Also stick makes my rachel and carl easier to play but its still doable its not like arakune who is p. much impossible to play at high level without a stick.

I still do those, but sometimes I feel like I'm ending my combos too early. I have 4 winds that I can use in a combo, I should make better use of them instead of just 1 or 2 all the time.
Also, I think it might be lag or I'm screwing up the timing on buffering a frog and a dash, so I don't feel that comfortable doing frog combos unless I have them trapped in the corner since Rachel is closer to them during then.

Basically, my inexperience truly shows when I'm going up against a better Rachel.
They know what they're doing in the matchup better than me. I just need to break out of some of these old habits like 5a 5b 5c d 5c 236b 22a.

In a combo you should really only use 1-2 winds at a time, and end it with j. BABC,dj.2C, 214B, mixup...

Winds are for pressure, the extra damage isn't really worth it normally unless your mid screen against certain characters and can't combo into super without it.

Game has been out for over a year... It's been out long enough. Either way, a lot of the lists are innacurate in several ways. Like Carl being 55-45 against Bang? Carl can restrict Bang's movement, Nirvana eats nails, clap loop, etc. Bang can BARELY combo Carl and just does crappy against him. SURE SOUNDS 55-45!

Uhh according to my friend who has a really sick carl, wins state tournies and ****... bang is his least fav match after rachel because if bang hits him he loses, because bang just puts him in the corner and does block strings that carl can't do **** about, plus Bang does like 10-15 hit combos on Carl wtf are you talking about. But its seriously the pressure man a good bang will never let carl out EVER, plus he can escape carl - other player - nirvana pressure easy.

 

[Minato]

In a combo you should really only use 1-2 winds at a time, and end it with j. BABC,dj.2C, 214B, mixup...

Winds are for pressure, the extra damage isn't really worth it normally unless your mid screen against certain characters and can't combo into super without it.

Thanks, I'll try doing that more. And yeah, I wouldn't want to be left with no wind, so using 1-2 should be enough. I've been trying that combo you listed during matches sometimes. I think I'll have a better chance getting the j2c if I SJC out of Rachel's launch, I dunno.

I did some Rachel dittos online with this one player. He's better than me, but I can put up an even fight. For fun, he did this weird hack that made the game faster. It was pretty fun. Throw breaks were quick too.

I need more frogs outside of combos I think.

 

[ChaosKnight]

i would take advice from LK but iunno about norad loool ....

 

[Minato]

i would take advice from LK but iunno about norad loool ....

LOL Okay. Anyway, I think I'm going to try Taokaka again as a secondary next time I play some BlazBlue. Guess I should go read how to deal with the matchups on Dustloop soon. And ChaosKnight, didn't you say you had a PS3? What's your PSN ID?

 

[Brightside6382]

LOL Okay. Anyway, I think I'm going to try Taokaka again as a secondary next time I play some BlazBlue. Guess I should go read how to deal with the matchups on Dustloop soon. And ChaosKnight, didn't you say you had a PS3? What's your PSN ID?

She's not very hard to learn. Learn any air combo that hits with her slash and drive as many times as possible and you'll soon notice that EVERYTHING she does will lead into that same combo with the exception of her sweep.

 

[Lord Knight]

Uhh according to my friend who has a really sick carl, wins state tournies and ****... bang is his least fav match after rachel because if bang hits him he loses, because bang just puts him in the corner and does block strings that carl can't do **** about, plus Bang does like 10-15 hit combos on Carl wtf are you talking about. But its seriously the pressure man a good bang will never let carl out EVER, plus he can escape carl - other player - nirvana pressure easy.