The Auto-Boost Pivot Grab

[null55]

I haven't been around these boards in a while, but I found this out kind of accidently yesterday and decided to tell you guys about it.

Anyway, there are obviously two ways to grab, the Z button and R+A. In the pivot grab, you run and press back and Z at the same time. In the boost pivot grab you dash>down-Cstick>back Z-button as quickly as possible.

Well, this method actually uses the R+A buttons to do an auto boost pivot grab. You just dash, and simply press back and R+A simultaneously. It's kind of as if the dash attack from the old method comes automatically. It's really, really easy (There's even less tech skill required compared to the little amount needed from the first method.)


And just a quick note, boost smashing doesn't work well with R+A (Dash > Up+R+A). You don't go as far as you should (especially with Sheik and Snake).

 

[Dreadz18x]

hmm.. worth a try

 

[illinialex24]

I'm not sure if this has been discovered yet, I haven't been around these boards in a while, but I found this out kind of accidently yesterday and decided to tell you guys about it.

Anyway, there are obviously two ways to grab, the Z button and R+A. In the pivot grab, you run and press back and Z at the same time. In the boost pivot grab you dash, down-Cstick, back Z-button as quickly as possible.

Well, this method uses the R and A button to do an auto boost pivot grab. You just dash, and simply press back and R+A simultaneously. For some reason, the dash attack comes automatically. It's really, really easy (There's even less of the little amount of tech skill required from the first method.)


Again, this may already be well known, and if it is feel free to disregard this thread. And just a quick note, boost smashing doesn't work well with this method. You don't go as far as you should (especially with Sheik and Snake).

That would work pretty well.

 

[PK-ow!]

I'm not sure if this has been discovered yet, I haven't been around these boards in a while, but I found this out kind of accidently yesterday and decided to tell you guys about it.

Anyway, there are obviously two ways to grab, the Z button and R+A. In the pivot grab, you run and press back and Z at the same time. In the boost pivot grab you dash, down-Cstick, back Z-button as quickly as possible.

Well, this method uses the R and A button to do an auto boost pivot grab. You just dash, and simply press back and R+A simultaneously. For some reason, the dash attack comes automatically. It's really, really easy (There's even less of the little amount of tech skill required from the first method.)

I'd like you to do something for me.

What happens if you enter the same input, while you're holding an item?

I can't test right now. You say the input is easy, so it shouldn't be too much effort to see if something happens.

Hoping you'll enjoy seeing the results for yourself, but thanks.

Now, you say hit shield+attack simultaneously, but. . . come on, one's a trigger and the other's a button. And one of your nerve impulses has to come down your spinal cord first. So do you think it's A then R, R then A, or does the game want to see it "controller-simultaneously"?

 

[null55]

I'd like you to do something for me.

What happens if you enter the same input, while you're holding an item?

I can't test right now. You say the input is easy, so it shouldn't be too much effort to see if something happens.

Hoping you'll enjoy seeing the results for yourself, but thanks.

Now, you say hit shield+attack simultaneously, but. . . come on, one's a trigger and the other's a button. And one of your nerve impulses has to come down your spinal cord first. So do you think it's A then R, R then A, or does the game want to see it "controller-simultaneously"?

-_-;;

I'd like you to do something for me. Take a controller and put your index finger on the R button and your thumb on the A button. Press them both at the same time. See what happens.

 

[Mith_]

-_-;;

I'd like you to do something for me. Take a controller and put your index finger on the R button and your thumb on the a button. Press them both at the same time. See what happens.

That's why I set my Z button to shield.

 

[PK-ow!]

-_-;;

I'd like you to do something for me. Take a controller and put your index finger on the R button and your thumb on the A button. Press them both at the same time. See what happens.

OH MAH GAWDZ, I DIDS A GRABB!

Please, just take my request or ignore it. I don't need your insults.

 

[null55]

Now, you say hit shield+attack simultaneously, but. . . come on, one's a trigger and the other's a button. And one of your nerve impulses has to come down your spinal cord first. So do you think it's A then R, R then A, or does the game want to see it "controller-simultaneously"?

Sorry if I was insulting, but that's what I was talking about, your whole nerve impulse, spinal cord stuff. All you have to do is just press both buttons at the same time. It's... simple...

 

[Tommy_G]

CJ it's actually not the same thing. The regular pivot grab depends on which way you're holding the control stick after the grab. If you're not holding left after the grab, you will slide away. If not, you won't slide. I'm guessing R and A is just giving you more time to bring the control stick back to neutral. Boost pivot grabbing takes momentum from the dash attack(done with C-stick down) and slings you forward with the grab so there has to be sliding and it's more sliding than normal.

 

[null55]

...? It has the exact same effect. Dash for a very small amount of time and press back R+A, and then do it with the Z button and C-stick. It IS the same thing. I go the same distance, and can chaingrab just as easily. I'm just like 5% more precise when I go from left to right now.

 

[Light_13]

Wth guys not that hard. Its just an alternate way to boost grab.
(I know its a thread but you dont have to argue all the time)




good job CJ

 

[J4pu]

...? It has the exact same effect. Dash for a very small amount of time and press back R+A, and then do it with the Z button and C-stick. It IS the same thing. I go the same distance, and can chaingrab just as easily. I'm just like 5% more precise when I go from left to right now.

oh, you're using the initial dash animation/physics to make this work it won't work if you are already running, the initial dash causes slides in everything, have you tried an initial dash hyphen smash? you could mistake it for a poor->decent boost smash

 

[illinialex24]

oh, you're using the initial dash animation/physics to make this work it won't work if you are already running, the initial dash causes slides in everything, have you tried an initial dash hyphen smash? you could mistake it for a poor->decent boost smash

I think it can be used in the normal dash animation. Its just like a boost smash or a boost grab, but reversed.

 

[J4pu]

I think it can be used in the normal dash animation. Its just like a boost smash or a boost grab, but reversed.

this didnt really make any sense
how can it be like both of those things but reversed when a boost smash is facing forward and a boost grab is facing backwards,
that's like saying you went left, i went right and he went the oppositte way

 

[null55]

J4pu, when I said dash for a small amount of time, I just meant press the control stick right or left and immediately press back+R+A and compare it to the distance of doing the other method immediately as well. They both go the same distance (unlike using this for boost smashing by pressing dash and then Up+R+A, in which case it doesn't go as far as it should.) Yes, you can use this out of normal dash animation. It is virtually the same thing as pressing c-stick down+back+Z-button. Try it. It's fun and easy.

illinialex, delete the "but reversed" part of your post and pit "pivot" between boost and grab and your post will make sense.

Wth guys not that hard. Its just an alternate way to boost grab.
(I know its a thread but you dont have to argue all the time)

good job CJ

Lol, thank you. I didn't think it'd be this challenging to simply share an easier method to do a tech with the Falco boards... -_-;; (Not referring to you J4pu, that question was legit.)

 

[§witch]

Alright, run, hit a, HOLD IT DOWN, then hit sheild immediately afterwords. You get the DA cancelled by the grab, presto. it works, and now it's been explained.

 

[null55]

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. So, the A-button plays the roll of not only being a part of the DA but the grab that cancels it. Thanks for the explanation, Switch.