Originally posted by Kokichi:
<strong>Um, Capt dude, why the **** do you do these little *** things? You could just do the quote thing. It's a bit more organized if you ask me.
Also, Capt, you seem to be saying that "God pulls the strings of gravity", as if agreeing that the Big Bang did happen, then you turn around and say "Wait a second. Most Xians don't believe in the Big Bang." You need to make up your mind. Either it happened or it didn't. You can't defend both sides. You can attack both (like we are) yet you aren't. See, that's the thing with religion and science. In Science and the Big Bang theory, you only have that one thing to happen, and we back it up. In religion, you have stuff like "There is no Big Bang" and "There is a Big Bang". There are lots of empty ties like that. Plus, for the inbred thing, it could be true, G4F, I mean, the Bible
does, after all, promote **** in more ways then one
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I was using the little *** things, because for some reason, the quote button wouldn't work. Sorry about that.
You're right...maybe I do need to rethink my beliefs about the beginning of the universe. But in all honesty, that isn't the important thing. The important thing is whether or not God did it.
That's because everyone has different beliefs about things like this. Some people believe there was a Big Bang and some people don't. It's because religion is based on faith that there are so many different beliefs. If people want to include science in, they do, if they don't, they don't...I'm a little of both.
Give me a verse in the Bible that promotes ****.
I will use the *** again-sorry.
***Then why do you thank god when he did nothing?***
God did do something. He gave me things.
***So you mean, free will is an illusion?***
Once again, I suggest you do a search to look for the topic that was solely about this sort of thing. Free will is not an illusion- not at all. God does control the world- he knows what I am going to decide to do with my free will. God knew that you would eventually decide to become an atheist/agnostic (not exactly sure what you are). It isn't as if God MADE you do that. You made the choice, but God knew you would make the choice.
***Why ask god for a trait that should be brought out from within, and not from another source?***
God gives us abilities when we are born... I could ask God to strengthen those abilities that I already have. Sorry, I didn't make myself very clear.
***So justice is irrelavent?***
No, God knows what he is doing. I just have to learn to have faith in God. If a man murders my family, I have to have faith that justice will be served in one way or another. But, I also have to accept it if God decides not to serve justice to this man. A lot of this is VERY hard to explain.
***So life isworthless? And no, god gives man no rights. A right is an idea of man, not god.***
That depends on your definition of a worthwhile life. My definition is a life lived to its fullest, without sin, with a lot of people brought to Christ. So if my life meets those criteria, I have lived a worthwhile life. God gives everyone's life worth in some form or another through what he had planned for them. Oh really? God gives man no rights? It was my understanding that free will gives us a lot of rights.
***We seem to be doing just fine without god. Who is to say that the south would have collapsed? They might have done just as well or better.
And yes, god is, by definition, communist.***
The key word there is seem. If I'm right, you aren't doing just fine without God. Satan was an angel. He is not some ugly red guy with a pitchfork. He is a beautiful angel with a corrupt heart, and he is a deceiver. I'm not saying you are controlled by Satan- I'm saying we can all be misguided by Satan. The South would have had slavery and very little industry. They didn't have the best ingredients for a successful country. Give me your definition of communism. Even if God is a communist, God is perfect. People here on earth screw up- God does not.
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: CaptFalcon ]</p>