Y-L
Smash Champion
No, he means the game is slowed down. Running the game at 30 fps wouldn't help you.
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Official The 20XX Melee Training Hack Pack (v5.0.2 - 1/20/2023)
- Thread starter DRGN
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Not for homebrewing the Wii itself I believe. It is a SDHC card, so it will only be readable guaranteed once your wii is modded. If it already is, yeah sure go ahead and buy it, there's no problems.
Thanks!
edmund-blake-nelson
Smash Rookie
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I've been practicing tech chasing on 20XX recently (BTW THANK YOU SO MUCH) but I have trouble with tech in place>shine, however the CPU doesn't tech in place enough for practicing tech chasing on 20XX to be extremely productive. Would it be possible for the user to somehow input how "often" the cpu techs in various directions?
Something like
Gameplay settings>CPU Settings>Tech settings
Tech in place toggle : # (0-16)
Tech roll right toggle : # (0-16)
Tech roll left toggle # (0-16)
Missed tech toggle # (0-16)
Getup attack toggle
Getup in place toggle
Getup roll left toggle
getup roll right toggle
So the user inputs a sum of techs that adds up to 16 for the CPU then the CPU would vary their tech/wakeup options based on the probabilities chosen.
Something like
Gameplay settings>CPU Settings>Tech settings
Tech in place toggle : # (0-16)
Tech roll right toggle : # (0-16)
Tech roll left toggle # (0-16)
Missed tech toggle # (0-16)
Getup attack toggle
Getup in place toggle
Getup roll left toggle
getup roll right toggle
So the user inputs a sum of techs that adds up to 16 for the CPU then the CPU would vary their tech/wakeup options based on the probabilities chosen.
Who Knows?
Smash Rookie
Hey quick query Achilles, is there any reason in particular for a ton of suicide airdodges from the CPUs? They often don't even try to recover, just airdodge once offstage (and well away from me).
SinsOfApathy
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Smash AI has a limited view radius and by extension suck ass. Combined with "Advanced Tech", they suck more ass cause they're forced into input cycles, rather than appending to their move scripts.
ssknight7
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So this may seem like a small request but god in heaven it's killing me. As everyone knows load state crashes if you try to load state in any number of special situations, most notably (imo) when a player is being lowered to the stage from the platform after losing a stock.
Is there an easy way to do one of the following:
Scenario 1
- Find address that correlates to whether a player is on platform
- If ((address == 1) && (P1 tries to load state))
{
DON'T ****ING TRY TO LOAD THAT ****();
}
Scenario 2
Sometimes if you try to load state immediately after killing opponent (before they are lowered down, but after blast animation) the opponent just falls from the sky with no platform. Is there a code that can be used to just completely skip the platform sequence altogether? This would be ****ing sweet for practicing in that it speeds stuff up and I wouldn't own myself by accidentally loading state while someone is on the platform.
I know the obvious response is "just don't ****ing load state while on platform" but after a few hours of practice when you get into a rhythm, sometimes you just forget.
Awesome job as always Achilles
EDIT to ask Achilles do you have a PayPal and if so you should put a Donate button in the main post so I can give $$.
Is there an easy way to do one of the following:
Scenario 1
- Find address that correlates to whether a player is on platform
- If ((address == 1) && (P1 tries to load state))
{
DON'T ****ING TRY TO LOAD THAT ****();
}
Scenario 2
Sometimes if you try to load state immediately after killing opponent (before they are lowered down, but after blast animation) the opponent just falls from the sky with no platform. Is there a code that can be used to just completely skip the platform sequence altogether? This would be ****ing sweet for practicing in that it speeds stuff up and I wouldn't own myself by accidentally loading state while someone is on the platform.
I know the obvious response is "just don't ****ing load state while on platform" but after a few hours of practice when you get into a rhythm, sometimes you just forget.
Awesome job as always Achilles
EDIT to ask Achilles do you have a PayPal and if so you should put a Donate button in the main post so I can give $$.
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CeLL
Smash Lord
Dolphin or console?
Dolphin
CeLL
Smash Lord
Try switching video backend. I believe this issue is connected to certain GPUs.
Thank you. Looks like i'm good for now. I'll report back if I have any more problems!
Cheers,
~Ggros
Mc.Rad
Smash Lord
has anyone just have the compiled iso I can use?
??Sanic Hedgehog??
Smash Ace
But, Its so easy to make that you don't need a whole 20XX iso
Mc.Rad
Smash Lord
But Im too apathetic to do it and Im also on a mac
??Sanic Hedgehog??
Smash Ace
Oh...
Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
Is there a date for when the next update is coming?
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Sickolas
Smash Apprentice
Soon™
Achilles1515
Smash Master
Alright. It's done, and more. I just need to make the flags editable via a "CPU Codes" debug menu. Godlike tech chasing practice for sure. I'm excited.
No set date yet. Still actively working on it. It's coming along great.
We're not allowed to post ISOs or links to ISOs on Smashboards.
Not sure why. Obviously something with my old code, but I don't care about it anymore because it will all be rewritten. I'm sorry that it is annoying, though.
I will certainly add some problematic action state checks before executing the load in the next version. Can you make a list of ones you have seen that cause freezes/other issues?
I've noticed the "falling from the sky" before and had the same thought you did of "weird.. that's actually kind of cool."
No donation link....yet.
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Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
Mc.Rad
Smash Lord
Even on PM????
Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
From what I know... PM is "Private Message", so I guess you can do that (not 100% sure).
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FlamingForce
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We're not supposed to spread those things through smashboards, try smashladder or compile the damn thing yourself.
Mc.Rad
Smash Lord
FlamingForce
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ssknight7
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I noticed this too while back and I thought the issue had something to do with the shine WD in place or whatever the CPU does. I asked Achilles for a code to remove this shine WD in place from the CPU and once I rebuilt the ISO, the CPU no longer air dodges off stage.
Edit:I think the code ach gave me is somewhere in this thread, I'm not 100% sure, I'll try to find it.
This is what he sent me:
Try changing 0x388 in the DOL from 418204e0 to 480004e0. I believe they won't shine ever.
Alternatively, you could be able to change the line before that one from 2c170002 to 2c170001.
This will change the logic from not shining when on a collision link that is grabbable and not drop-throughable (an edge), to not shining when on a collision link that is not-grabbable and drop-throughable (a regular platform).
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Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
So... You're telling me that if we change those codes to those, they'll stop air-dodging off-stage? Will that affect gameplay or anything? Were those codes field tested?
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Timic83
Smash Ace
Can you yell at the 20XXTE guys to change their name? Their project is completely different to this and has no plans for PAL afaik, because they do all stuff from memory card. I'm annoyed that they're confusing casuals.
Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
They said that they would have a plan for PAL users DEPENDING on demands. I guess the 20XX part is like that because it uses similar stuff like the 20XXTP. How are they confusing casuals anyways...?
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Timic83
Smash Ace
It won't happen, the file structure of PAL is completely different. I'm kind of paranoid that because of the replay functions of 20XXTE people here will be tempted to switch to NTSC which imo there's no reason to.
It's confusing because it's pretty much the same name.
Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
Well, they can make a second memory card for PAL files. NTSC is the most used version and it has stuff that the PAL version doesn't, making it a "fun killer" in a sorta way, so there IS a reason to switch to.
20XXTP = 20XX Training Pack, made for training and to get good.
20XXTE = 20XX Tournament Edition, made for legal tournaments.
Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
FlamingForce
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Timic83
Smash Ace
No, it's a completely different game with a completely different scene. There's nothing inherently better or more balanced about NTSC, it's just different.
Stormghetti
Smash Journeyman
"Completly different scene." Only if you use low-tier characters or just ignore the minor differences on the rest of the characters.
FlamingForce
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Aren't you a SL mod or somethin
Cos heads up, I got quite a few isos from there lol.
CeLL
Smash Lord
Yes and please use the report button whenever you see piracy take place. While it would certainly be convenient and helpful to provide people ISOs, it's illegal and we cannot allow it for legal purposes.
FlamingForce
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Alright man, I'll keep an eye out from here on out.
It was a while ago in any case.
Sickolas
Smash Apprentice
oh no