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Tell me my fox sucks

mers

Smash Ace
Joined
Aug 25, 2008
Messages
997
Location
Oberlin College, Oberlin, OH
You need to get the basics down better. Practice till you never miss a WD out of shine. Additionally, work on being faster. I noticed minor things, like when you run off the edge of a platform to catch up with your opponent, you don't fastfall. Or when you hit him with a full-hopped nair, you don't fastfall. Pay attention to these things, and generally try to always be doing something. You don't want any moments when you're waiting on your character to finish falling or something. Chain one movement directly into the next.

That might have been unclear. Tell me if you need better explanation. Also I'm not very good either, so I'm sure others will have better advice.

EDIT:

Actually, it looks like you hardly ever fastfall. Make that a priority. Also, don't miss l-cancels. You weren't that bad about it, but you want to be at like 99.95% consistency eventually.
 

RaynEX

Colonel RTSD
Joined
Aug 14, 2005
Messages
6,454
Location
Corneria, Lylat System
You're just inexperienced. It doesn't make sense to post videos when you don't have the fundamentals down yet, because everyone will just tell you to practice them anyways.

Practice time:

SHFFLing (in either direction with any aerial)
Waveshining (long WDs, quick out of the shine)
SHL (so you understand your character more and learn to use one of his best tools.
Basic Uthrow combos
Firefox sweetspotting
Ledgehopping

etc.


Once you have a pretty good grasp on Fox, the advice you get will be much more helpful. The easy part is the grinding and practicing that needs to be done to learn him technically. The hard part is taking your newfound tech skill and translating that into wins by making quick decisions and not messing up.

But for now, there is no point in giving you match-up advice, stage advice, or even whispering the words "frame data". Practice the basics then post more videos.

Good luck.
 

Metal Reeper

Smash Champion
Joined
Oct 20, 2006
Messages
2,285
Location
Abington PA
Thanks ReverendGadgetBoy and Raynex that helped out alot. Yeah I really need to fastfall alot more, now that I watched over these 2 videos after what you two have said, I see all the mistakes, thank you :D
 

painlord k11

Smash Journeyman
Joined
May 26, 2009
Messages
270
Location
Victoria, BC
yes i agrea iv been posting like a tard lately but i was trying to imply that sometimes fox is to technical to be good with at tournaments for some people.
 

Kotu

Smash Cadet
Joined
Aug 6, 2010
Messages
41
Wut Fox is the highest tier in melee your like blind then
 

Bets

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Oct 15, 2008
Messages
279
Location
NORCALLLLLLLL
you seem patient and that's a good thing, but you don't follow up too well because you don't seem to have basic techskill down [l cancling, waveshining all that fancy ****]. also, your ledge guarding needs work
 

Eggm

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 29, 2006
Messages
5,178
Location
Neptune, NJ
The most glaring aspect of your tech skill that makes you slow that I noticed is that you never fast fall..
 

Metal Reeper

Smash Champion
Joined
Oct 20, 2006
Messages
2,285
Location
Abington PA
Yeah the video I posted was before Apex, here is a vid from a few weeks ago...I hope I improved alil bit...and I learned how to Usmash OoS and shine OoS so during the one part of the match, i try it like 3 times like an idiot, just cause i wanted to do it =/ and I get messed up for it lol, dont comment on that part :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXPo_TkcVUg

soooo sorry for the recording, my brother sucks.
 
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