BlueSamsara
Smash Cadet
Who are the most technical characters besides spacies/falcon?
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Technical Chars
- Thread starter BlueSamsara
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PGH Carroll
Smash Master
After those three you really take a step down. I'd say samus or ICs maybe
There are techniques that even the best Ice Climbers players cannot pull off. Similarly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bukOejeiUpw
What's the single hardest technique in Falco or Falcon's arsenal? Neither of them approach the difficulty of ICs' or Peach's fastest stuff
EDIT: Here's an example of the Ice Climbers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn0PE0Lm48I
What's the single hardest technique in Falco or Falcon's arsenal? Neither of them approach the difficulty of ICs' or Peach's fastest stuff
EDIT: Here's an example of the Ice Climbers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn0PE0Lm48I
Geist
Smash Master
Samus has some pretty frame tight techniques.
SDW and its variences, SHFFMC, Low rider missile, all require precise input down to a single frame.
Characters that can DJC like Peach Mewtwo Ness and Yoshi can reach speeds youd never think possible with them.
Desynching requires mad concentration and fast fingers, not to mention super high consistancy.
imo those characters can be more technical than Falcon. :V
SDW and its variences, SHFFMC, Low rider missile, all require precise input down to a single frame.
Characters that can DJC like Peach Mewtwo Ness and Yoshi can reach speeds youd never think possible with them.
Desynching requires mad concentration and fast fingers, not to mention super high consistancy.
imo those characters can be more technical than Falcon. :V
Siglemic
Smash Journeyman
peach is more technical than falco and falcon
BEES
Smash Lord
Don't underestimate the difficulty of double-jump-canceling characters.
Mewtwo, Yoshi, Ness, and that other one whoever it is
Mewtwo, Yoshi, Ness, and that other one whoever it is
some desynchs are ridiculous
but some of the more common ones are like really easy
like spotdodge-blizzard and stuff
peach can be at times
and the djc'ers but you never really see them
falcon isn't even THAT technical he's just super fast
samus has that frame--tight stuff people already mentioned
but is this a thread of who is the potentially most technical character or which character is the most technical in their actual gameplay (ie. peach isn't gonna be doing all those perfect nairs)
but some of the more common ones are like really easy
like spotdodge-blizzard and stuff
peach can be at times
and the djc'ers but you never really see them
falcon isn't even THAT technical he's just super fast
samus has that frame--tight stuff people already mentioned
but is this a thread of who is the potentially most technical character or which character is the most technical in their actual gameplay (ie. peach isn't gonna be doing all those perfect nairs)
Siglemic
Smash Journeyman
technical tier list ~
fox
peach
samus !!!
pikachu
falco
falcon
sheik
okies
fox
peach
samus !!!
pikachu
falco
falcon
sheik
okies
Silent Wolf
...
Siglemic
Smash Journeyman
now that i think about it iceys are above sheik !!!!!!!!!
but yeah. falco aint ****
shadowboii
Smash Apprentice
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You forgot Yoshi.
TheZhuKeeper
Smash Champion
I agree with this when it comes to potential + standards.
LOL noob alert.
Pi
Smash Hero
wavelands and L canceling
welcome to '04
peach really doesn't have much aside from her FC
SHFFM is hard -.-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiERQrX40wA
Violence
Smash Lord
SWD is so hard to the point that very few Samus's do it.
Double Missile, SHFFMC, Rising(and descending) grapple, missed sweetspot grapple to walljump and variations, ledgehop to super missile to ledgegrab must be frame perfect to work...
Samus can get pretty technical...
Double Missile, SHFFMC, Rising(and descending) grapple, missed sweetspot grapple to walljump and variations, ledgehop to super missile to ledgegrab must be frame perfect to work...
Samus can get pretty technical...
Pi
Smash Hero
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
SWD isn't that hard WTF it's simply people think it's hard. However to do it off of reaction is hard. I don't know i've SWDed into WD back to space my d-smash before. again I don't know how to bomb jump as samus which I think is funny.
ice climbers should be the highest also they are the hardest to keep being techical with ics it's extremely hard to stay focused as them in matches people pressure you really bad. So it's hard to keep track of everything and nana. Really the pressure is to much for me in a few matches so I geuss i'll use my for counters to floaties like the marios and luigi(from the matches i've played I like fighting luigis) but all I can do is quad blocks and a few small de-synces.
ice climbers should be the highest also they are the hardest to keep being techical with ics it's extremely hard to stay focused as them in matches people pressure you really bad. So it's hard to keep track of everything and nana. Really the pressure is to much for me in a few matches so I geuss i'll use my for counters to floaties like the marios and luigi(from the matches i've played I like fighting luigis) but all I can do is quad blocks and a few small de-synces.
Spoon
Smash Journeyman
Captain Falcon isn't much more technical than anyone else, but his moonwalking can make you look slick as hell if you use it alot haha.
Falco's more technical than peach for sho
Falco's more technical than peach for sho
??? Mash down+B
Rooktionary
Smash Journeyman
Yoshi is insanely technical..
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
This plz ^^
Yay, Yay also this <33
And this! ^^
Whats goin on Rook!
I love you guys! n_n
Rooktionary
Smash Journeyman
Haha, hey! After playing your Yoshi I just felt like I had to rep him a lil bit. :DWhats goin on Rook!
PB&J
Smash Hero
icy's - no contest
fox
falco
peach
samus
fox
falco
peach
samus
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
tell you what someone tell me a reason why the ice climbers aren't the hardest in this game to play as techinal? there's no way anyone esle is harder there is tech skill I promise you would totally be mindblown about that you didn't even know about in truth I doubt even wobbles know about all the ice climber's tech skill that some people know.
Korrupshen
Smash Ace
Fox
Samus
Falco
Yoshi
Mew2
Pika
Samus
Falco
Yoshi
Mew2
Pika
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
put peach in between samus and falco and that list is perfect. peach has FC nair OoS, djc, glide tossing, turnip crap, and MAD spacing.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
pikachu takes seriously like 0 tech skill other than maybe up-b/side-B platfrom cancels but really EVeryone esle can also do that so really yeah. pichu has double up-B, scar jumping, and other up-B junk and if overall faster.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
Icy's can do some crazy as tech skill ****
but do they have to in order to win
i say nay
space animals have higher required tech skill abilities
then IC's and Samus and Peach and all those other ****s can be tied for 3rd
but do they have to in order to win
i say nay
space animals have higher required tech skill abilities
then IC's and Samus and Peach and all those other ****s can be tied for 3rd
Silent Wolf
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after fox falco ICs theres a huge drop off btw. samus isnt that technical compared to them
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
tech skill doesn't= I win more. really the more skill you have the more likly you'll win if you know the basics you can do amazing tech skill is simply more options or chances to do something like live when it comes to teching.
SHFFl, WD, teching is all you need tech skill wise f*** h-box doesn't even do that much nor does chu dat and some other players HOWEVER comapre mango, zhu, SW, and lucky to them they can also ****.
without mindgames/reads your nothing without any control your nothing. that said SW must have some fairly sweet mindgames how else could he do anything with fox?
SHFFl, WD, teching is all you need tech skill wise f*** h-box doesn't even do that much nor does chu dat and some other players HOWEVER comapre mango, zhu, SW, and lucky to them they can also ****.
without mindgames/reads your nothing without any control your nothing. that said SW must have some fairly sweet mindgames how else could he do anything with fox?
Kanelol
Smash Lord
Jimbo Slice
Smash Journeyman
I think Marth, Falcon, and Sheik aren't so much technically demanding as they are precision demanding.
I love you Zhu; you can say exactly what I feel in 2 words. LOL
my list (imo);
fox
ics
falco
peach
samus
Nø Ca$h
Smash Champion
precision and spacing is part of tech skill IMO
Geist
Smash Master
I agree
I still think it goes like
Fox
Falco
ICs
Peach
Samus
character under ICs don't need tech skill as a requirement to be good, or at least not as much imo.
Jimbo Slice
Smash Journeyman
I agree. I was just under the impression that we were talking "look at how fast I can push buttons."
AprilShaw
aka Logan
You can spend so much time talking about how to define tech skill. Like, many people would say Samus's SWD is technical; it requires really precise timing. But what about, say, wavedash -> tipper as Marth. It requires really precise spacing and timing, as well as prediction/reaction. So it's tough to say what all qualifies as being "technical."
As far as characters that will get the furthest on pure speed/pressure, I'm gonna have to say:
Fox/Falco - These two are both kings of pressure based gameplay through speed.
Ice Climbers - Assuming wobbling is banned, having a lot of knowledge/skill and making the most out of each grab is pretty important, as well as being able to do things that most players simply don't know how to react to through desynching
When you're talking about how well they can do with just tech skill, it's mainly about how many options a character has. That's why I wouldn't put Yoshi, or Pikachu, or Mewtwo on this list; they have some really difficult and useful things they can do, but very few of them are just straight up good options and it's more about mastering the best options in each situation with a low tier, instead of a character like Falco where laser/dair/shine will cover a vast number of situations.
When you just talk about what a character can do, then it becomes harder to define. ICs, Yoshi, Mewtwo, Spacies, Peach, Samus, Ganon, Ness, etc., all have really freaking hard stuff to master. I'd have to agree that ICs and Spacies probably have the most/hardest tech skill options of all the characters though.
As far as characters that will get the furthest on pure speed/pressure, I'm gonna have to say:
Fox/Falco - These two are both kings of pressure based gameplay through speed.
Ice Climbers - Assuming wobbling is banned, having a lot of knowledge/skill and making the most out of each grab is pretty important, as well as being able to do things that most players simply don't know how to react to through desynching
When you're talking about how well they can do with just tech skill, it's mainly about how many options a character has. That's why I wouldn't put Yoshi, or Pikachu, or Mewtwo on this list; they have some really difficult and useful things they can do, but very few of them are just straight up good options and it's more about mastering the best options in each situation with a low tier, instead of a character like Falco where laser/dair/shine will cover a vast number of situations.
When you just talk about what a character can do, then it becomes harder to define. ICs, Yoshi, Mewtwo, Spacies, Peach, Samus, Ganon, Ness, etc., all have really freaking hard stuff to master. I'd have to agree that ICs and Spacies probably have the most/hardest tech skill options of all the characters though.
shadowboii
Smash Apprentice
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PB&J
Smash Hero
i def forgot about peach..peach will be ahead of samus
and icy desynces are insane and yes they can win with out wobbling ..i challenge everybody in this thread using them for a week..it wont hurt u ..only help u
and icy desynces are insane and yes they can win with out wobbling ..i challenge everybody in this thread using them for a week..it wont hurt u ..only help u