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Take Number 5 - the singing Pokemon takes stage! Jigglypuff Discussion

Should Jigglypuff have a moveset change?


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Rayopuff

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How the F do you deal with Ike? he's got to be one of Jiggly's toughest matchups
 

King Ching

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How the F do you deal with Ike? he's got to be one of Jiggly's toughest matchups
In the Puff vs Swordies (Like Ike) match up, Puff needs the following strategies to win:

1. Play patient, space well, mix up movement, fadeback aerials, bait out the swordies aerials and attacks, wait for an opening.
2. Once Puff gets in and puts the swordy in a disadvantage state, go in hard and be more aggro.
3. Once the swordy is off stage, they can be gimped easily. Especially Ike who has a bad vertical recovery.

In the match ups against Swords Puff needs to be very patient and read where the opponents aerials and moves will end up. I like to mix up my movement and fadeback with aerials to bait out an attack. Of course I don't ALWAYS do this so I mix up my approaches and go in sometimes to throw my opponent off.

Remember, Once Puff gets in opening against a swordy, Puff can potentially get A LOT of hits, strings, and combos. Versus the swordy can't really get too many true combos or follow ups on Puff because she is light and can escape easily. Also Swords aren't as good off stage as Puff is, so Puff can usually always gimp them. Once the swordy is off stage, edge guard them as much as possible and make them burn their resources like air dodge.

I'm still learning the sword matchs up myself. I've beaten Chrom, Roy, and Ike in tournament as Puff. You can do it too! It just takes practice and match up experience.
 

PassePopinjay

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I know using swordies is fun for a lot of people, and that's great if you enjoy playing the game with them, but man, MAN, does it get ever so tiresome having to fight an FE character or Cloud every other match. I know disjointed hitboxes aren't exclusive to the aforementioned, but I find them especially to be a chore to fight. Oh well, just gotta git gud, right?
 

King Ching

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I know using swordies is fun for a lot of people, and that's great if you enjoy playing the game with them, but man, MAN, does it get ever so tiresome having to fight an FE character or Cloud every other match. I know disjointed hitboxes aren't exclusive to the aforementioned, but I find them especially to be a chore to fight. Oh well, just gotta git gud, right?
I know your pain. Fighting swordies as Puff isn't always the most fun, especially Cloud. GIMPING Cloud and killing him at 50% is hella fun though.

Also RDR7, one of the best Puff Players, consistently wins the Cloud match up. Just takes experience I guess :-)
 

King Ching

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I wanted to share a picture my friend Drake drew in regards to Ike's side B. Ike's will always try to side b above or to ledge. So basically if Jigglypuff Gimps and puts Ike in a low position as shown in the picture, then Ike is pretty dead.
ike side b.png
 

Jasper the Tourist

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I can't seem to get my Jigglypuff's GSP higher than 1,500,000. I'm strictly playing one on one matches. I can go strong for a while, but sure enough, a skilled FE character player appears and ruins my day. I was consistently losing to Ike, but I finally managed to win a few matches against him. Anyway, maybe I just suck, but I'm starting to get frustrated just sitting around that GSP with Jiggs.
 

King Ching

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Hey Puffballs. I've been slowly getting better at the Sword match up as Puff. I am no means a master at it yet. But here is a video of be beating a very good Wolf & Lucina in tournament using just Jigglypuff. Its possible! I also finally beat every Chrom in my state in tournament as Jigglypuff.

 

ChelioxD

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Hey Puffballs. I've been slowly getting better at the Sword match up as Puff. I am no means a master at it yet. But here is a video of be beating a very good Wolf & Lucina in tournament using just Jigglypuff. Its possible! I also finally beat every Chrom in my state in tournament as Jigglypuff.

Wow man you're amazing!! congratulations.
Jiggs feels better than brawl and Sm4ash, and I don't mind if she is still bottom tier. She feels usable and nice again since Melee
 

King Ching

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Wow man you're amazing!! congratulations.
Jiggs feels better than brawl and Sm4ash, and I don't mind if she is still bottom tier. She feels usable and nice again since Melee
I actually think Puff is a solid mid-tier in this game. I feel like Puff can beat anyone with enough patience and practice.
 

Ethan Weegee

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I still use Jigglypuff, they're fun to play and doesn't seem that bad of a character this time.
 

Desu~

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Yeah, it's not like we needed something that could help us with the ever-present sword characters' high priority moves or green dudes with potential touch of death combos.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

FancySmash

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Wow, I was kinda hoping this place would be a bit more lively. Figured I'd stop by to ask, if anyone's around, if they think Jigglypuff will be in Sword/Shield. I thought we only had to worry about her Smash appearances, but apparently we also have to worry about her appearances in her home games now...
 

Call_Me_Red

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Jiggs would also match the aesthetic of SwSh tbh. I'd love if she got a Galar variant, maybe where she's a pop star or something.
 

ZeroJanitor

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I've started to play Jigglypuff a little more in this game. Sm4sh Puff left me a little exasperated for the future of this character, and when I first tried her out in Ultimate it felt like more of the same.

But then lately I've actually taken the time to learn how she functions in this game and finding her suprisingly fun again. Obviously it's not Melee Puff but she feels like a solid character again and I might end up putting even more time into practicing her.
 

Call_Me_Red

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I've started to play Jigglypuff a little more in this game. Sm4sh Puff left me a little exasperated for the future of this character, and when I first tried her out in Ultimate it felt like more of the same.

But then lately I've actually taken the time to learn how she functions in this game and finding her suprisingly fun again. Obviously it's not Melee Puff but she feels like a solid character again and I might end up putting even more time into practicing her.
I really want to like Puff, but honestly she just seems too inconsistent. I feel like Rest and Sing are her only solid KO options, and obviously those are huge gambles. I just don't see anyway to be successful with Puff without using those moves accurately and in abundance.
 

DavemanCozy

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It's sad that Jigglypuff got treated better by Sakurai than by Game Freak.

I mean... At least she's in all Smash Bros games. Can't say the same for all main Pokemon games though

(This is in regards to Sword and Shield info we know now)
 

FancySmash

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It's sad that Jigglypuff got treated better by Sakurai than by Game Freak.

I mean... At least she's in all Smash Bros games. Can't say the same for all main Pokemon games though

(This is in regards to Sword and Shield info we know now)
Yeah, I always thought I'd have to worry about whether Jigglypuff got into Smash of all things, not its own home series of games. Ironic in a way.

I kinda hope Sw/Sh does poorly. Is that petty? I feel that's petty. But then again, I've been against cutting Pokemon since day one.
 

Teeb147

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Yay for Puff buffs :)

Just a few things, but much better than nothing. Dair can combo into rest more often now too.
 

Ryu Myuutsu

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HB losing his **** over the puff buffs.


This was good for Puff mains. But bad for me because my bro uses Puff. I don't want to be hit those confirms into Rest.

I know, I'll threaten him by telling him that I'll write a letter to Sakurai asking him to remove those if hits me with them.
 
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BuffThePuff08

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Any other character: Ok, I can do this!
:ultganondorf:and :ultike:: Something tells me this isn't going to be fun.

:ultmarth:: MAKE THE BAD SWORDSMAN GO AWAY
 
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