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Tails the fox has arrived! (Video up!)

xANDERssbb

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ooh now i understand what you mean shock so mk works ..... hmm how to fix the running glitch and all the wacky model disapering. Any ideas?
 

shock44

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ooh now i understand what you mean shock so mk works ..... hmm how to fix the running glitch and all the wacky model disapering. Any ideas?
Not sure, it's really odd that he disappears at random animations. I'll try Tails on more characters until I get him to where he doesn't disappear at all, but if I can't get that to work then I guess we'll have to figure out what it is that makes his body disappear.
 

Mr.Weegee

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Also, I think the character needs more than six (editable) external graphics.

But there are few that don't, so that should be okay.
 

Miamisportsfan45

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I'm confused with how these hacks work though... The only reason I have the Homebrew channel is for recording 3:00+ matches. So... How does this work with hacks?
 

shock44

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Hey guys, Tails' model seems to work on Yoshi almost perfectly. The only glitch is when he gets on the stage before the match starts theres a polygon going over the screen. But once the waiting animation starts he is fine and he doesn't seem to have his body disappearing in any other animations.

Here's a download link to the files. I'll keep trying different characters just in case he works better on someone else.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H2CSXAUV
 

Mr.Weegee

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I'm confused with how these hacks work though... The only reason I have the Homebrew channel is for recording 3:00+ matches. So... How does this work with hacks?
Um...that might take a while to answer. Should you take this question to the Help section of the forum?

Hey guys, Tails' model seems to work on Yoshi almost perfectly. The only glitch is when he gets on the stage before the match starts theres a polygon going over the screen. But once the waiting animation starts he is fine and he doesn't seem to have his body disappearing in any other animations.

Here's a download link to the files. I'll keep trying different characters just in case he works better on someone else.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H2CSXAUV
Sounds good!

Although, I don't know if Yoshi seems like he has that much external graphics...
 

xANDERssbb

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Hey guys, Tails' model seems to work on Yoshi almost perfectly. The only glitch is when he gets on the stage before the match starts theres a polygon going over the screen. But once the waiting animation starts he is fine and he doesn't seem to have his body disappearing in any other animations.

Here's a download link to the files. I'll keep trying different characters just in case he works better on someone else.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H2CSXAUV
the entry is no biggy we can edit that out in psa and animations.
 

Mr.Weegee

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Okay, I just checked. Yoshi has four external graphics...two short of success.

But Fox and Falco work.
 

shock44

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Okay, I just checked. Yoshi has four external graphics...two short of success.

But Fox and Falco work.
I read on Kitty Corp that all of Yoshi's external graphics are articles though. Also I tried Tails on Falco and Fox and only Tails' body shows up, his tails are missing.
 

xANDERssbb

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I read on Kitty Corp that all of Yoshi's external graphics are articles though. Also I tried Tails on Falco and Fox and only Tails' body shows up, his tails are missing.
yeah usally its either his body or his tails that dont show, all i know is that yoshi olimar mk works.

List of non working.
Jiggly
Pika
Fox
Falco
 

shock44

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yeah usally its either his body or his tails that dont show, all i know is that yoshi olimar mk works.

List of non working.
Jiggly
Pika
Fox
Falco
Isn't the ball on Olimar's head stored somewhere that it can be removed? I mean I've looked through all of Olimar's files and I don't see that red ball anywhere. But it's gotta be somewhere.
 

xANDERssbb

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Isn't the ball on Olimar's head stored somewhere that it can be removed? I mean I've looked through all of Olimar's files and I don't see that red ball anywhere. But it's gotta be somewhere.
well olimar works like 90% his waits stretch and item grabbing make it glitchy. so olimar is added to the list of shame not work lol.
Also why couldnt we use yoshi agian? nvm i forgot yoshi has a run glitch an grab glitch.
 

shock44

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well olimar works like 90% his waits stretch and item grabbing make it glitchy. so olimar is added to the list of shame not work lol.
Also why couldnt we use yoshi agian? nvm i forgot yoshi has a run glitch an grab glitch.
We can't use Yoshi also because all his graphics are articles.
 

Mr.Weegee

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There's also the chance that it was hard-coded into the game. But I guess that's pretty slim.
 

InTrepidCognito

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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but here goes:

Could Sonic's model just become a dummy (delete all the polygons) with Tails' model on it as an article?
 

Mr.Weegee

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Aritcles can animate. There's a code to choose what animation you wanna use, so I think you can give them as much animations as you want.

A surprise?

Is it...better than a cookie?
 

InTrepidCognito

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Aritcles can animate. There's a code to choose what animation you wanna use, so I think you can give them as much animations as you want.

A surprise?

Is it...better than a cookie?
Oh yes, much better.

Has anyone ever noticed that texture deleting for some things is MUCH easier than model hacking? Like making Ike's cape an invisible color instead of removing it from the model.

Oops, did I say Ike?

I've said too much. <looks around suspiciously>
 

Mr.Weegee

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Better than a cookie? *squeals in unmanly fashion*

It's the same for Pit's wings too, isn't it?
 

InTrepidCognito

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Yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha, glad to see you like it.

It's good that the rips and tears in his outfit are part of the texture and not the model, and their body builds look almost EXACTLY alike.

Do you know what that emblem on his belt is, or where I could find a better picture of it?
 

Mr.Weegee

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I think its just like a rectangle with spikes on the top and bottom, 3 per side.

/\/\/\
|-----|
\/\/\/

Like that.
 

Slashy

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Oh yes, much better.

Has anyone ever noticed that texture deleting for some things is MUCH easier than model hacking? Like making Ike's cape an invisible color instead of removing it from the model.

Oops, did I say Ike?

I've said too much. <looks around suspiciously>
The Metal Box will show your laziness.
 
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